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Both my wife and I know people of color at work that are hard RATs, but will vote republican over this issue for the first time in their life ... amazing !!!
1 posted on 08/27/2004 9:24:39 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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Both my wife and I know people of color at work that are hard RATs, but will vote republican over this issue for the first time in their life... That's what I've been hearing. How can the Prez capitalize on this in the black community? I think that for one thing, he needs to address this in his speech at the GOP Convention Thursday night. What state are you in if you don't mind sharing?
2 posted on 08/27/2004 9:30:46 PM PDT by no dems (Hey, Hey JFK; How many lies have you told today?)
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That's it. We've got to get rid of this SOB, fascist, conservative, gay-bashing president. He's trying to turn this country around. We just can't have this! (Denote heavy, heavy sarcasm)


3 posted on 08/27/2004 9:30:50 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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Scott emphasized that anyone who is sexually active is at risk for infection.

Totally inaccurate. Monogamous sexually active people have zero risk of contracting this disease. (Assuming their partner is also monogamous.)

4 posted on 08/27/2004 9:31:02 PM PDT by Restorer
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Bush has provided more funding to fight AIDS than any other president... not that it matters to people trying to "fight AIDS."


5 posted on 08/27/2004 9:33:35 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://www.drunkenbuffoonery.com/mboards/)
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The ironies in this story are numerous. The black pastors realize that it is the very attitude that "you should be able to have sex with anyone" that results in the huge numbers of AIDS sufferers.

"The stigma surrounding HIV" is not the problem.

6 posted on 08/27/2004 9:35:48 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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Scott said. "It's hard enough to deal with HIV when you feel damned without your church telling you that you are. ... People should be able to have sex with anyone they want."

Churches should promote fornication and rape! WHERE does the wicked whacked and warped left find these people who have the audacity to say this crap!

8 posted on 08/27/2004 9:52:25 PM PDT by avant_garde
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This article about the position taken by 20 black Bay Area pastors actually mentions "20 pastors", yet they can't even find 1 of the 20 to at least try to fake balancing out the 3 people critical of the pastors? Pathetic.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 10:52:42 PM PDT by mwp99
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whoaaaaa!It seems like I remember the president sending the petite sum of 15 billion to Africa to fight AIDS?????
12 posted on 08/27/2004 11:52:18 PM PDT by Cheapskate ("We got the Steeley Dan t shirts!")
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BUMP


13 posted on 08/28/2004 12:47:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Looks like one for the list! Good one!


14 posted on 08/28/2004 12:49:47 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Islamo-Jihadis and Homosexual-Jihadis both want to destroy civilization.)
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16 posted on 08/28/2004 4:18:46 AM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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GOOD CATCH!! Another wrinkle to this amazing campaign season.

Will Bill Schneider be discussing this next week with Judy W.????? Probably not....

17 posted on 08/28/2004 4:40:39 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Steyn: Kerry is Strange, Stuck-up and Stupid; I say: He's traitorous!)
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People should be able to have sex with anyone they want

An assertion almost as popular with Republicans as with Democrats, but still, fifty-five years after Kinsey and the start of Hefner's extended publication of "The Playboy Philosophy", false and lacking in any intellectual or empirical justification.

18 posted on 08/28/2004 4:48:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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"There are HIV-positive people in the congregations of each and every (one) of these pastors every Sunday," Scott said. "It's hard enough to deal with HIV when you feel damned without your church telling you that you are. ... People should be able to have sex with anyone they want."

Who's stopping them? Who's forcing them to sit in the congregation? The unspoken key here is that the people he refers to want to be free of guilt or internal conflict. Pastors, or anyone, who dare challenge their behavior are somehow forcing abstenance? Please.

20 posted on 08/28/2004 4:53:48 AM PDT by sayfer bullets
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These pastors rock! (Or should I say, rock the vote.) God bless 'em!


22 posted on 08/28/2004 5:14:11 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Sorry, Mr. Kerry....In the parlance popularized by your wife, you can just "shove it.")
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23 posted on 08/28/2004 5:46:52 AM PDT by mhking
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Unreal - the level of arrogance that this "Doctor" possesses is simply amazing.

After all these years, all the money, all the "fighting AIDS", and all the "raising awareness"campaigns haven't stemmed the tide. You can dump all the money you want at this plague, but unless you CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE SEXUALLY DEVIANT, you won't really solve anything.

Seems simple enough, doesn't it?

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27 posted on 08/28/2004 6:39:52 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Jerusalem is still standing - Sodom isn't. Ever wonder why?)
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"People should be able to have sex with anyone they want."

WOW.

That's not exactly the Baptist's way, Mr. Scott.


30 posted on 08/28/2004 7:53:33 AM PDT by keats5
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"I'm ashamed to say these pastors have made the situation worse," said Dr. Robert Scott, an Oakland physician who has been treating HIV/AIDS patients for nearly 22 years and is chairman of the AIDS ministry of Allen Temple Baptist Church.

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Nobody is making the situation worse other than people like yourself "Dr." Scott who would turn a blind eye and offer encourage the kind of deviant and permissible behavior that leads to the very disease you treat. In essence this man has NO compassion for those afflicted with AIDS if he encourages the very behavior that causes it. Something tells me that while Dr. Scott has no problem telling a fat person they need to change thier eating pattern and exercise(ie behavior) to lose weight, he probably doesn't say a whit to the homosexual about what makes them most susceptible to the AIDS virus compared with teh general community.


32 posted on 08/28/2004 7:57:22 AM PDT by cupcakes
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Scott said the stigma surrounding HIV in Alameda County prevents people from talking about the disease and seeking treatment. By condemning gay marriage and also calling homosexuality a sin, Scott and other AIDS activists said the pastors were losing an opportunity to help control the disease that has hit the county hard.

Hmmm - Aren't pastors supposed to tend the spiritual health of their flock? Evidently this idiot medical doctor doesn't understand that - because denying the sinfulness of homosexuality is an automatic prescription for eternal death.

33 posted on 08/28/2004 8:00:07 AM PDT by MortMan (John Kerry - Lt. Clueless, Junior Grade)
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