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Kerry Ally Says Veterans Shouldn't Brag About Military Service
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 8/31/04 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 08/31/2004 1:54:33 AM PDT by kattracks

New York (CNSNews.com) - Longtime New York Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel had some critical words Monday for his party's presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry, telling reporters and others gathered for a Democrat-sponsored rally that veterans shouldn't boast about their military achievements.

"I don't think veterans ought to be running around saying what good that they've done or to believe that you have to be a veteran or hero to serve this great republic," Rangel told an audience at Grant's Tomb that had nearly as many journalists as spectators.

Rangel also spoke with disdain about President Bush, whom he accused of ducking out of military service during the Vietnam War. Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard, but in Rangel's view, is no real veteran.

"What outrages us [veterans] is when someone who has this type of a record, for lack of a better word, can hire people to attack real heroes and real veterans," Rangel said in reference to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth charges disputing Kerry's military service.

Afterward, Rangel spoke to a small group of reporters about his disappointment in the Kerry campaign for not acting more "outraged" over the veterans' attacks.

"I have not seen any outrage," said Rangel, a Korean War veteran. "I think he ought to take the president on and bring the president into the ring."

When asked if he had been in touch with the Kerry campaign to offer advice, Rangel dismissed the suggestion.

"You don't coach somebody," he responded. "There should be more outrage about this. Take aim right at the president."

After the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth began airing a television ad Aug. 5, it took Kerry two weeks to directly respond to questions about the medals he was awarded in Vietnam. But by then, even some Democrats were wondering why it had taken so long to refute the charges.

Rangel, like many other Democrats, placed the blame on Bush for engaging in attack politics on the issue of Kerry's Vietnam service. The Bush campaign, however, has denied any formal link to the veterans' group.

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"I have not seen any outrage," said Rangel, a Korean War veteran. "I think he ought to take the president on and bring the president into the ring."
21 posted on 08/31/2004 2:40:33 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: NYCVirago

Riverside & 122nd


22 posted on 08/31/2004 2:47:23 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Khurkris

Swiftee window sticker thread

23 posted on 08/31/2004 3:50:51 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Chieftain

Time to put in perspective.

1992 - Kerry "military service is irrelevant for being President"
2004- Kerry "I should be President because I served in Nam"

They called him Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder!!


24 posted on 08/31/2004 5:33:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

You can add Duncan Hunter (AbnRgr, 2 VTN tours with Rgrbat and 173D). Mark Kirk's web site is a hoot...to read it you'd think the guy was Randy Duke Cunningham! Mark is usually the champion for dropping standards, women in combat and gays in the military...


25 posted on 08/31/2004 6:07:17 AM PDT by Meldrim
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
What were the 'Rats doing defiling Grant's tomb?

Trying to guess who's buried there.


:-)

26 posted on 08/31/2004 6:33:05 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Don't forget Kerry's little puppet Max.


27 posted on 08/31/2004 6:38:17 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: kattracks
...telling reporters and others gathered for a Democrat-sponsored rally that veterans shouldn't boast about their military achievements.

When asked if he had been in touch with the Kerry campaign to offer advice, Rangel dismissed the suggestion.

So, it's not clear to me, Rangel says veterans shouldn't brag, but when it comes to the candidate of his party bragging about his service, Rangel dismisses the suggestion. Was it a suggestion that Kerry not brag about his service? Sounds like Rangel ought to be ticked off that his own candidate is doing what he says shouldn't be done.

John Kerry made this an issue. He's stuck with it. The Rats made Bush's service in the ANG an issue. If they're going to dig this stuff up, they're probably going to get dirty from it.

28 posted on 08/31/2004 6:46:30 AM PDT by chimera
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To: kattracks
Why do I have the feeling if Audie Murphy was alive today, and was supporting President Bush, the media would attack him?

The Democrats lowered the bar when they defended Bill Clinton's record (of avoiding the draft). Nothing they have to say is based on any real core belief.

As one of them said recently, up is down, down is up, black is white and so on.

If President Bush had entered the Air Force, and then spent his entire tour of duty stateside, they would have attacked him. The point is not did President Bush serve, the point is he is not a liberal Democrat and nothing he has done or said is good enough. They do not attack him for his ideas or his action, they attack him because he is not one of them.

At some point in time, when there were gatekeepers to knowledge and news may have worked. But the world has changed and the left are being (dare I say it) left behind.

29 posted on 08/31/2004 6:59:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: kattracks
Twenty-one years old and fresh out of college in 1971, draft board nipping at my heels, I went in the Air Force and eventually spent two years in Berlin while the 'Nam War wound down. Rangel would say I'm no vet either. I would say he's entitled to his opinion, but I went where they sent me. How many people did something like what I did? Millions. Rangel just told all of us we aren't really vets at all. We aren't combat vets, maybe, but we served.
30 posted on 08/31/2004 7:06:41 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: ableChair

You are right on. The Rats are distancing themselves from Kerry, a sure sign of imminent political death. Rangel is saying, in code, "Don't vote for the scumbag Kerry. Just don't lower yourself to voting for Bush." Ralph Nader, here they come!


31 posted on 08/31/2004 7:08:47 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: kattracks

support the SWIFT VETS...see the new ad here http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.mov


32 posted on 08/31/2004 7:14:40 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: kattracks

Charlie sees his chairmanship slipping away and it is pissing him off that Kerry is Dukakis lite.


33 posted on 08/31/2004 7:16:19 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Donate to the Swifties, once again serving the nation selflessly)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Which veteran in the House of Representatives was it that bjclinton was on the phone with, talking about sending the military into former Yugoslavia, while being serviced by Monica???

I cannot remember his name, but I think he is from Texas.


34 posted on 08/31/2004 7:17:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kattracks

I can't stand Rangel! This article makes my blood boil! GRRRRRRR!

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35 posted on 08/31/2004 9:01:52 AM PDT by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: viaveritasvita

Is Charlie a veteran? Talks like it. Multiple Silver Star winner? What a tool.


36 posted on 08/31/2004 10:05:06 AM PDT by farsighted
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To: Condor51

LOL!


37 posted on 08/31/2004 10:59:36 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (John Kerry fled while good men bled.)
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To: kattracks

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38 posted on 08/31/2004 11:01:22 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2

I just LOVE a Meltdown. BUMP


39 posted on 08/31/2004 11:11:11 AM PDT by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Yeah, the only time I've heard McCain mention it is when he's talking about fellow POWs. I'm not a McCain fan, but he never shows up somewhere and says, "I went to Vietnam, vote for me!"

Rumsfeld was a Navy fighter pilot. Alos, one of our Congressmen from Illinois (can't recall the name) was an A-6 pilot in the first Gulf War.

Also, let's note that max Cleland never bragged either, but he sure loves the lifelong pity party.

40 posted on 08/31/2004 11:05:49 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do several Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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