Posted on 09/01/2004 1:19:56 AM PDT by christie
I was updating my John F. Kerry Timeline and ran across this item on the Kerry-Edwards official web site (johnkerry.com).
John Kerry's Vietnam Service TimelineMarch 17, 1969
The policy of Coastal Squadron One, the swift boat command, was to send home any individual who is wounded three times in action. After sustaining his third wound from enemy action in Vietnam, Kerry was granted relief under this policy.
Question for military freepers:
1. Is this a policy for the Navy or just the Coastal Squadrom One? Or just John Kerry?
2. What about the Army, Air Force, Marines, etc.
3. How many Vietnam vets were granted "relief" under this policy?
4. Kerry's website only mentions three wounds in action, not three purple hearts. Should be three purple hearts, right?
5. Where can we find the official policy or regulation?
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Curious myself, a google search mentions the rule but not the specific regulations
To be honest, I'm USAF and I've been on 6 deployments and have never heard of this rule, but then again I've never gotten a purple heart and know very few people who have.
Personally, I think they made this rule up for John Kerry just to get him the hell out of Dodge. Sounds like the guy was dangerous to have around.
That would depend. Was it a scrape, a boo-boo or an owee?
Or rice in the arse?
I can neither confirm nor deny your statement no matter how absolutely right I think you are!
www.campaigndesk.org/archives/000451.asp
The Campaign Deskwww.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Thrice_Wounded_Reassignment.pdf
Critique and analysis of 2004 campaign coverage from Columbia Journalism Review(snip)
The policy in question, the impenetrably-named BUPERS Instruction 1300.39, is no longer in place. During Vietnam, it mandated that any soldier "wounded three times, regardless of the nature of the wound or treatment required" should be "reassigned as having completed a full Vietnam tour with the hospital release date considered the tour completion date. They will not be ordered to Vietnam ..."
Furthermore, the official U.S. Navy document states that, "The commanding officer of an officer who is hospitalized and/or wounded under the above criteria will advise the Chief of Naval Personnel (Pers-B1) of the officer's location, duty status, and expected duration of hospitalization. Reassignment of the officer will be determined after consideration of his physical classification and on an individual basis."
An additional, virtually unreported section of the Navy code, notes that any soldier wishing to "waive reassignment under the purview of this Instruction must forward a written request to that effect to the Chief of Naval personnel (Pers-B) for final determination."
Kerry, of course, chose not to waive this order, and his commanding officers request for re-assignment can be viewed (PDF file) on the candidate's Web site.
R 170730Z Mar 69
FM COMCOSRON ONEA. BUPERSINST 1300.39
1. LTJG John Forbes Kerry USNR has been thrice wounded in action while on duty incountry Vietnam. Reassignment is requested IAW Ref A.
2. LTJG Kerry req duty as personal aide in Boston, New Yor or Wash, D.C. area. If aide, assignment not avail then any assignment considered qualified for.
3. LTJG Kerry presently on full duty status and available for reassignment.
snippets on BUPERS Instruction 1300.39
BUPERS Instruction 1300.39, no longer exists,
Never used before Navel Regulation,
was this a regulation designed just for kerry and then discountinued?
wounded three times, or wounded in action three times.
This is important, because if the wound needed to be while under enemy fire, and Kerry invented the enemy fire . . . fraud?
We were good at what we did and stuck together and nobody wanted to leave your friends behind.
It's very hard to understand how John Kerry could leave the crew that depended on him after only 1/3rd of tour.
You are right but judging from what Steve Gardner said I don't think Kerry's crew depended on him at all. He was a piss poor leader in the field. If he was with a line company he would have gotten men killed. He is not an example of the warrior ethos.
Semper Fi
USMC 1982-1990
Sounds as though you and I were in about the same place at about the same time... remembering exactly the same circumstances.
Semper Fi (7thMar)
That is debatable.
You'll have to register with the Naval Institute to read the following:
As far as I know, this was a Defense Dept policy. The more cowardly draftees would go to the doctor for every scratch in hopes of getting their three PH's and an out. Some doctors would willingly sign them and others would send them out the door with a swift kick in the ass.
The regulations state that for a PH to be awarded, (1) it must have been received as a result of direct enemy action. If your helo crashes due to mechanical failure, even in combat, you don't get a PH, nor do you get one for stupidly getting rice in your butt from being too close to an explosion you caused; (2) it must REQUIRE treatment by a doctor. If a doctor did, but a corpsman or medic could have handled it (as all three of Kerry's PH's were superficial wounds and were treatable by a corpsman), it doesn't qualify.
Everyone is wrong that Kerry was sent home because of 3 PHs.
Kerry was sent home as a reward for a new operational method for rendering captured supplies useless. He perfected the
"I poison FOODSTOCKS by shooting them into my BUTTOCKS"
A well earned reward and he's been sitting on this laurel for over 30 years.
This is important, because if the wound needed to be while under enemy fire, and Kerry invented the enemy fire . . . fraud?
Good question. I have no way of knowing and haven't found anything conclusive.
Couldn't agree with you more. Everything I hear about his performance suggests that he was more than willing to risk everyone around him to build up his bio.
By the way, has anybody besides me wondered how a place can be in 'hot and heavy combat' one day, yet safe enough to run around freely to stage movies the next day?
Semper Fi,
11th Marines and 1st Marines, '66-'67
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