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Barry Goldwater, <I>The Conscience Of A Conservative.</I>
Personal Archives | 1960 | Barry Goldwater

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:57:31 PM PDT by PsyOp

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To: elbucko

And better than Nostradamus cause there's no need for interpretation of prophecies revealed. He was right and history clearly demostrated that fact in crystal clear terms.


21 posted on 09/01/2004 4:44:18 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp
>> a willingness to accept defeat and humiliation rather than compromise principal.

Ahem -- "principle."

22 posted on 09/01/2004 5:12:12 PM PDT by T'wit (If you liked Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose, you'll love Hanoi John Kerry)
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To: Marine Inspector; sleavelessinseattle; 2Trievers; swarthyguy; Lazamataz; MistyCA; spetznaz; ...

Goldwater PING!


23 posted on 09/01/2004 5:47:24 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: luvbach1
Does anyone remember that Goldwater drifted to the left toward the end of his life?

It was described by those towards whom he was drifting as "maturing" or some such silly stuff.

24 posted on 09/01/2004 6:00:52 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: PsyOp
Went door to door for him after attending another convention in New York in 1964, that of Young Americans for Freedom.

The nation insisted on a six-trillion-dollar "War on Poverty" and a politically-sabotaged war in Vietnam.

Thanks to Ronald Reagan, the Soviet threat was smashed.

Hillary Clinton and John Forge Kerry are in denial.

25 posted on 09/01/2004 6:03:45 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: NormsRevenge
But for an ad with a daisy being plucked and a mushroom cloud appearing.. what might have been.

At least one person has noted "They told me if I voted for Goldwater we'd end up in a land war in Asia.

I voted for Goldwater, and, sure enough, we ended up in a land war in Asia."

26 posted on 09/01/2004 6:04:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: PhilDragoo
politically-sabotaged war in Vietnam.

Goldwater later said: "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."

27 posted on 09/01/2004 6:37:51 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: DuncanWaring

ping to #27


28 posted on 09/01/2004 6:38:52 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: All

"You've got to forget about this civilian thing. Whenever you drop bombs, you're going to hit civilians." - Barry Goldwater.


29 posted on 09/01/2004 6:41:33 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: All

"The only summit meeting that can succeed is the one that does not take place." - Barry M. Goldwater.


30 posted on 09/01/2004 6:42:41 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp
Bump for later.

BTW please do not insult the .22 short, long, or LR w/the POS running for President.

My best friend shot a "Kerry Supporter" back in 1986, when he broke into his house in Detroit.

It was with a .22 rifle.

A .22 is better than 911!!
31 posted on 09/01/2004 6:43:46 PM PDT by Springman
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"None of us here in Washington knows all or even half of the answers. You people out there in the fifty states states had better understand that. If you love your country, don't depend on handouts from Washington for your information. If you cherish your freedom, don't leave it all up to BIG GOVERNMENT." - Barry Goldwater.


32 posted on 09/01/2004 6:44:09 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Barry Goldwater, speech, accepting Republican presidential nomination, July 16, 1964.


33 posted on 09/01/2004 6:46:07 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"We must--ourselves--be prepared to undertake military operations against vulnerable Communist regimes. Assume we have developed nuclear weapons that can be used in land warfare, and that we have equipped our European divisions accordingly. Assume also a major uprising in Eastern Europe, such as occurred in Budapest in 1956.

In such a situation, we ought to present the Kremlin with an ultimatum forbidding Soviet intervention, and be prepared, if the ultimatum is rejected, to move a highly mobile task force equipped with appropriate nuclear weapons to the scene of the revolt.

Our objective would be to confront the Soviet Union with superior force in the immediate vicinity of the uprising and to compel a Soviet withdrawal.
An actual clash between American and Soviet allies would be unlikely; the mere threat of American action, coupled with the Kremlin's knowledge that the fighting would occur amid a hostile population and could easily spread to other areas, would probably result in Soviet acceptance of the ultimatum.
The Kremlin would also be put on notice, of course, that resort to long-range bombers and missiles would prompt automatic retaliation in kind.

On this level, we would invite the Communist leaders to choose between total destruction of the Soviet Union, and accepting a local defeat.
Had we the will and the means for it in 1956, such a policy would have saved the Hungarian Revolution."

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This paragraph above brought back memories.

-- I was stationed in Munich in 1956, and Ike had us on full alert, ready [supposedly] to jump into Budapest to protect 'american interests', when he backed down & let the Hungarian Revolution collapse.

I wonder if we could have bluffed the Russians at that point. -- I tend to doubt it.
Anyone here ever read any history about Ikes decision to deny support to Hungary?


34 posted on 09/01/2004 6:47:15 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: PsyOp
GAD! This really brings back memories. I almost flunked out of high school being the Press Chairman for the Youth For Goldwater...

And that was in Houston and my Dad worked for Brown & Root at the time!

Yet, if my late Father were alive today, he would be a conservative and vote that way.

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35 posted on 09/01/2004 6:48:05 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Springman
A .22 is better than 911!!

I'm not trying to insult .22s. I own several, including a .22 mag. But there are times when the mission calls for a little more stopping power. Kerry is to the war on terrorism what the .22 is to the .44 and that is my point. ;-]

36 posted on 09/01/2004 6:50:11 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: tpaine
Anyone here ever read any history about Ikes decision to deny support to Hungary?

No, but I believe I have a book on it somewhere that I never got around to reading. I, too, was stationed in Germany. I was there from 81 to 83 when things ratcheted up under Reagan. Lots of alerts. Even got to look down tha barrels of ZSU 23-4 that was tracking us on a border flight along the IGB. Definite "pucker factor" there.

37 posted on 09/01/2004 7:02:13 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: sonofatpatcher2

Just picked up my copy of "Unfit For Command" today.


38 posted on 09/01/2004 7:04:54 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: All

"Nations do not arm for war. They arm to keep themselves from war." - Barry Goldwater.


39 posted on 09/01/2004 7:07:12 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

BUMP!!


40 posted on 09/01/2004 7:07:45 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Who knew it would be so much fun to watch a baby learn to grab her toes.)
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