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Posted on 09/03/2004 10:22:51 AM PDT by FairOpinion
...a focus group conducted with 17 independent voters in Ohio by GOP pollster Frank Luntz for MSNBC drew a mostly positive response. These voters, Luntz said, did not care for Miller's attacks on the Democratic Party because they were too "broad-brush," but the attacks on Kerry resonated because Miller anchored his criticism in specific arguments about Kerry's record.
"They liked facts," Luntz said. "They're not responding to style. They're asking for a level of detail."
The group, in which voters turned dials to register reaction to each line of the speech, thought the most "memorable" passage of Miller's speech was his recitation of weapons systems Kerry supposedly voted against, then asked how such a man could lead the armed forces. "U.S. forces armed with what?" Miller asked. "Spitballs?"
One factor in the reaction was how much the speech is played, replayed and commented on in the days ahead.
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MSM talked more about Kerry's response, than Bush's speech and hardly any mention of Zell's speech.
They would like to pretend it never happened.
This brings to mind their approach to the Swifties, they hoped if they pretend they don't exist, they will just go away. Well, they were very wrong about that and will be wrong about this.
Fortunately the MSM is not the only way to get news anymore.
Yes, but they did not replay it - because it was embarrassing. It was horrible, in fact.
I've always thought that the President would hold his own in the debates.
From what I saw of Senator Kerry last night, the President may well destroy him.
And, of course, that the Vice President will demolish Senator Edwards.
I'm going to make a prediction right now:
John Kerry will try to do a "Zell" in the debates.
He won't be able to pull it off, and he will just seem like a whackjob, and it will hurt him.
But the DUers will love it, and so will the old media.
I guess this will backfire like the swiftboat truth ads
The truth can never backfire
Bush 2004
ciao
There they go again
Kerry spitball priceless
Supposedly? In years past, a reporter wanting to know the truth would look up the congressional record to see what the facts were. Is the reporter unaware that the record is available or is this a plausible denial *I haven't checked, so I don't know if it's true*?
Zell gave the perfect antidote to the wimpy politically-correct weasel-worded "bowl of mush" type speeches that everyone is used to. That's why the Independents picked up on it. Facts, straight to the point. Highly effective.
I'm still laughing at Zell's line. "Spitballs?". Awesome.
It was only MSM journalists who already don't like Bush who were trashing the speech.
As for Kerry, every time he gets exposure he suffers in the polls, whether it's Republicans bashing him or him talking. When it comes to the debates he's gonna be so annoying that the viewers will sub-consciously root for Bush as Kerry drones on and on.
Spitballs Kerry?
"Long John Spitballs?"
We ought to work the word into the conversation, since the line was so effective.
If this is ALL people remember, Miller did a GREAT job!
"Got Spitballs?"
Neither. It's a partisan Democrat who poses as a journalist deliberately casting doubt on Miller's assertion. I say "deliberately" because reporters do know how to access the voting records of Senators, and we can bet that this so-called "reporter" did so. He just didn't like what he found — that Miller was right. Had he found something else, the story would say, ..."but Congressional records show that Kerry in fact voted for the high speed vibrating stick."
It tells you how dishonest reporters are now that when they can't debunk the guy they don't like, they toss in words like "supposedly" and pretend that the truth is unknowable.
Has any previous convention ever had a speaker from the other party give the keynote address?
Luntz is completely unscientific. Time will tell us. The women who called Laura Ingraham's show on Thurs were 100% with Zell. I loved how Laura told off that vile turncoat David Gergen when he called Zell a racist segregationist on "WiffleBall".
Fallout of Give 'Em Hell Zell now known:
BUSH 52%
KERRY 41%
"Are you questioning my spitballs?"
Should there be a Spitball Appropriations Bill?
Amen to that. VP Cheney is probably feeling that he will be attacking an unarmed man, though.
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