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WHEN THE KILLERS COME FOR THE KIDS
NYPOST ^ | September 4, 2004 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 09/04/2004 8:00:04 AM PDT by jolie560

THE mass murder of children revolts the human psyche. Herod sending his henchmen to massacre the infants of Bethlehem haunts the Gospels. Nothing in our time was crueler than what the Germans did to children during the Holocaust. Slaughtering the innocents violates a universal human taboo. Or a nearly universal one. Those Muslims who preach Jihad against the West decided years ago that killing Jewish or Christian children is not only acceptable, but pleasing to their god when done by "martyrs."

It isn't politically correct to say this, of course. We're supposed to pretend that Islam is a "religion of peace." All right, then: It's time for Muslims to stand up for the once-noble, nearly lost traditions of their faith and condemn what Arab and Chechen terrorists and blasphemers did in the Russian town of Beslan.

If Muslim religious leaders around the world will not publicly condemn the taking of children as hostages and their subsequent slaughter — if those "men of faith" will not issue a condemnation without reservations or caveats — then no one need pretend any longer that all religions are equally sound and moral.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; cairsilentonchechnya; islam; murder; muslims; ossetia; ralphpeters; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; whereiscair
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To: xzins; Luis Gonzalez; D Edmund Joaquin
Amen.

Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come.

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. -- Luke 17:1-3

I didn't see any repentance among the Islamofascist terrorists. I only saw photos of dead children and a small cross in a bloodied hand.

Perhaps you missed them.

121 posted on 09/05/2004 11:06:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I did not see the photo of the child with the cross in his little hand. But you have not told me this of yourself but of the Holy Spirit. This verifies that no matter the passage be about young children or the young siblings of Christ that this prayer is within the will of God.

If you ask anything in my name it will be done.

If you have faith as the grain of a mustard seed you would say to this mountain, 'Be thou removed and be cast into the sea!' and it would be done.


122 posted on 09/05/2004 1:02:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Perhaps you missed them."

Quit being an idiot; the pictures are everywhere to be seen.

You want to convert the fanatics who would do this in the name of their religion to Christianity, a religion they consider evil incarnate, "the Great Satan". How would you go about it by using something other than force?

What would it take for them to convert you to Islam?

They can't convert you anymore than you can convert them.

And quote scripture to someone else, I am quite capable of reading The Word on my own.

You can't convert the kind of people who do things such as this, you must kill them, and pray that God forgives them...I sure will not.

123 posted on 09/05/2004 1:35:47 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
One of the complaints used by the states as justification for the secession from the British Empire was that "He has obstructed the Administration of Justice ...". This is exactly the case in Syria, Iran, Chechnea, Saudi Arabia, and numerous other Islamic nations. It WAS the case in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is why the US destroyed the governments of the Taliban and the Bathists.

People living in those nations, by their silence, are complicit in the deaths of thousands of Americans, in the deaths of thousands of Israelis, and in the deaths of hundreds of Russians,

The US was not lawless in overthrowing the Taliban. We were not lawless in killing combatants in Afghanistan. The US was not lawless in overthrowing the bloody regime in Iraq. We were not lawless in killing the enemy there, either.

The citizens of these countries would also be justified in killing those who murder the innocent. Justice is not going to be served by their governments. And mealy mouthed apologies this late in the bloodbath are meaningless.

124 posted on 09/05/2004 2:24:11 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: jolie560
We're supposed to pretend that Islam is a "religion of peace."

Yeah....
125 posted on 09/05/2004 2:27:06 PM PDT by gipper81
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To: Luis Gonzalez; xzins; D Edmund Joaquin
Quit being an idiot.

For a pacifist, you're pretty aggressive.

They can't convert you any more than you can convert them.

Only God converts.

You must kill them, and pray that God forgives them.

That was my point. You said I would be no better than the terrorists with that line of thinking.

But I'm glad that God has chosen to convert you to the truth.

Surely thou will slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.

For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. -- Psalm 139:19-22.

  
126 posted on 09/05/2004 2:43:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: gitmo

A "perfect hatred" bump to you, too.


127 posted on 09/05/2004 2:46:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: xzins

"I did not see the photo of the child with the cross..."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040903/481/mosb12609031702


128 posted on 09/05/2004 3:20:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I agree - killing, not converting, is what the Islamofascists need.

In satisfyingly large numbers, and sooner rather than later.

Peace will come.


129 posted on 09/05/2004 3:27:26 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"For a pacifist, you're pretty aggressive."

So, you're wrong once.

"Only God converts."

Man finds God, God does not find man; He doesn't need to...and now you've been wrong twice.

"That was my point."

No, you said you agreed with Coulter, kill the leaders and convert the rest, I took issue with the forced conversion...now, you've been wrong three times.

"But I'm glad that God has chosen to convert you to the truth."

And now, you seem to believe that you are privy to His inner thoughts...not only are you consistently wrong, but there's a good probability that you're fruitier than my great-aunt Lidia's Christmas Fruit Cake.

130 posted on 09/05/2004 4:38:19 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; xzins; HarleyD; lockeliberty; RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin; nobdysfool; Diamond; ...
Man finds God; God does not find man...

Hey, xzins, this is where Arminianism ends up. Hubris.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:8-10.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." - Ephesians 1:4   

131 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thank you for the photo, my sister.

He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored.

They have violated one of the little ones who believe in him.


132 posted on 09/05/2004 7:16:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You know I don't believe that.

I believe that God enlightens.

It's that simple.


133 posted on 09/05/2004 8:19:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

Amen.

I just found it odd that this belief we share should provoke some to use words like "fruitcake." 8~)


134 posted on 09/05/2004 9:25:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Dr. Eckleburg
They can't convert you anymore than you can convert them.

You don't understand. What she is saying is that the conversion itself is an act of God irrespective of what the convertee thinks of it prior to the conversion taking place.

She is correct.

In Christianity an Islamic could be as easily the target of God as could a foppish crossdresser at a gay-rights parade.

135 posted on 09/05/2004 9:49:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Luis Gonzalez
Retribution is not terrorism.

Sometimes the only way to rid a house of termites is to take down the building.

Anyone who sees the photos of these dead children and urges pacifism is a fool.

Not to derail the debate, but why is it that I only hear this "fight fire with fire" strategy in reference to our fight against terrorism and never in connection with the even more horrific holocaust of abortion going on in our own backyard?

136 posted on 09/06/2004 7:38:47 AM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: schaketo

I would love, love to see Mecca destroyed.


137 posted on 09/06/2004 7:45:22 AM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: Diogenesis

These photos and others like them need to be plastered across the U.S. on billboards. American citizens need to be constantly reminded of the Hell these innocent people went through when they realized they had no chance for rescue and had no other alternative but to jump to their deaths.


138 posted on 09/06/2004 7:48:07 AM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
but there's a good probability that you're fruitier than my great-aunt Lidia's Christmas Fruit Cake.

Welcome to my world

139 posted on 09/06/2004 1:04:10 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (There are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit and the water and the blood 1 John 5:8)
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To: xzins

If God wanted to convert them, they'd be converted.


140 posted on 09/06/2004 3:46:52 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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