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Fear that death toll in Russia will reach 600
Arutz Sheva ^ | Sept. 6 2004

Posted on 09/05/2004 10:15:21 PM PDT by yonif

Translation from Hebrew to English by me

In the city Beslan which is in Russia, where the slaughter at the school occured, there are fears the number of dead will reach 600. Hundreds of bodies have yet to be identified, dozens of them are still buried under the debris and 260 individuals are still reported missing.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; militantislam; ossetia; slaughter
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1 posted on 09/05/2004 10:15:22 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif

Beslan should have a bigger impact than Madrid did.
I.e., How many public schools are there in the US?


2 posted on 09/05/2004 10:24:15 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: yonif

the death toll just keeps rising, did they rescue anyone?


3 posted on 09/05/2004 10:25:09 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: leadpenny

impact on whom, americans? I would estimate less then 2% of americans know the full story about what happened here.


4 posted on 09/05/2004 10:26:03 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: yonif

600 !! Poor Kids May God have mercey on them.


5 posted on 09/05/2004 10:28:02 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: yonif

How many schools in the United States open on Tuesday?


6 posted on 09/05/2004 10:28:27 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: yonif; river rat; Johnny Valentine; Travis McGee; anonymoussierra; Squantos; Atlanta; neverdem; ...
thanks Yoni, and a ping to the others. "Coming soon to an American school yard... or 20"
  1. Shut down our borders with military force.
  2. Deport all illegal aliens.
  3. Step up alien tracking.
  4. Sweep the schools.
  5. Make a secret list of "targets" that will be used in retribution. Announce that the list exists.

7 posted on 09/05/2004 10:28:53 PM PDT by risk
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To: yonif

600 ????


8 posted on 09/05/2004 10:30:22 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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To: risk

" Shut down our borders with military force.
Deport all illegal aliens.
Step up alien tracking.
Sweep the schools.
Make a secret list of "targets" that will be used in retribution. Announce that the list exists. "

Whoa ! I couldn't agree with you more . Mega dittos !


9 posted on 09/05/2004 10:35:07 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: oceanview

I think for the most part Americans know the horror of Beslan. What school principal or parent couldn't identify with what happened? Whether or not our political leaders have the stones to do anything to prevent something like it (or worse) from happening in the US is another issue.


10 posted on 09/05/2004 10:35:28 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: yonif

holy smoke! aye carumba


11 posted on 09/05/2004 10:35:48 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: yonif
Hopefully, some of the "missing" could be one's they've flown to Moscow and other cities. Of course, they're the ones who are the worst, so they could die anyway. God be with those poor people. What a tragedy.

After 9-11 we took out the Taliban in Afghanistan and Saddam in Iraq. Let's hope Russia takes out a couple of Muslim countries too. Iran and Syria would be nice.

12 posted on 09/05/2004 10:37:07 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce)
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To: risk

I suggest we employ out-of-work Americans to build a wall along our southern border ... yep, 1,000 miles or more ...

make jobs, make America safer, cut down illegal immigration...

crazy? yes ... but one minute after the next major terrorist attack it won't look so crazy ...

now, about the northern border ...


13 posted on 09/05/2004 10:38:12 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: leadpenny

Killing kids in the name of anything strikes a deep, deep chord in any person here or abroad. The national news has a hard time naming the "hostage takers" as ISLAMIC Terrorists that killed these kids in the name of ALLAH.


14 posted on 09/05/2004 10:39:06 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: risk

I'm afraid a massacre like Beslan would have to happen in this country and be proven due to porous borders before the pubbie pols would take a hint. There are too many deep-pocket contributors addicted to cheap labor.


15 posted on 09/05/2004 10:42:07 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: yonif
Wow, I had thought they had already found all the dead. This means less than half escaped. This is absolutley horrific!!!!!!

Prayers for all of them and their families.

16 posted on 09/05/2004 10:42:36 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Go George go!)
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To: neverdem

Agreed.


17 posted on 09/05/2004 10:43:28 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Go George go!)
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To: yonif

BTTT


18 posted on 09/05/2004 10:46:25 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: cmsgop

350 or so already dead, and 260 missing.

The numbers add up...

Out of a small town of 30,000, that's a large number to lose.

It's appalling that the US media has devoted so little time to this story.

Inexcusable.


19 posted on 09/05/2004 10:48:15 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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Interesting how Al Qaida can collaborate with Chechen and other groups in the Caucuses, British(Robert Reid), Americans(Jose Padilla), but absolutely without certain would never collaborate in any way with Basque rebels.

Or so the media told us.


20 posted on 09/05/2004 10:48:30 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ( "History? I love history! So sequential...")
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Interesting how Al Qaida can collaborate with Chechen and other groups in the Caucuses, British(Robert Reid), Americans(Jose Padilla), but absolutely, without a doubt, certainly would never collaborate in any way with Basque rebels.

Or so the media told us.


21 posted on 09/05/2004 10:49:13 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ( "History? I love history! So sequential...")
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To: yonif

God forgive me.

I wish to see, not only the perpetrators of this horrible act torn to pieces by wild dogs, but also anyone and everyone who thinks that this act was even remotely "just".

And not only them, but also thier decendants and distant relatives. In fact, anyone in thier neighborhoods or country who condoned or stayed silent about such acts. I want thier entire ideology removed from the face of the earth, and any remnant of thier memory abolished.

I want the soil that they once walked on to be tilled with thier own blood. They killed children and now, no fate is too despicable for them or thier kind, which is anything but human.

I hate.

How can I get back to who I was before 9/11/2001? I know I'm supposed to forgive, but it's hard. I know these animals would do this to my own children and the majority of thier religion would sit in quiet affirmation of thier horrible deeds. How can they be so blind.

I say often, when defending the Bush team, "We were faced with a choice. Try to kill a billion and a half Muslims, or try to change them. We have no choice, but to try to change them"

Now, I'm not so sure. If it had been my own children in that school. I know what I'd be planning right now, and it wouldn't be just.

How you challenge us, Lord.


22 posted on 09/05/2004 10:49:35 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: leadpenny
"most part Americans know the horror of Beslan. What school principal or parent couldn't identify with what happened? Whether or not our political leaders have the stones to do anything to prevent something like it (or worse) from happening in the US is another issue."

the do not have the stones to do anything about IT. Our schools have been open to attack as the student shootings of years past have shown. So are our malls, Universities, Stadiums, and any other public place. Its an election year and our government is hoping nothing big happens.

But no matter what happens, its not the government's fault. Neither putin, Sharon, Bush or anyone else is responsible for the murdering habits of muslims who think their God has given them a blessing to kill kids and anyone else they can stick a knife in.

23 posted on 09/05/2004 10:51:24 PM PDT by dinok
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To: jimmyBEEgood

I wonder how many more would have died if the without the bomb..not only in Japn but throughout the Japanese Empire?


26 posted on 09/05/2004 10:55:08 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: leadpenny

I think most Americans are busy enjoying their Labor day weekend to notice what happened. Sorry, America is blowing this one.


27 posted on 09/05/2004 10:55:10 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Greenpees
"How you challenge us, Lord."

Well, the Lord didn't excactly send the murderers to murder. God give all of us life and this life is the big test. Some pass and some choose to murder and rape kids. I guess these monsters have earned their ticket to hell, So I have no qualms about helping them along. And neither should you.

28 posted on 09/05/2004 10:55:20 PM PDT by dinok
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To: oceanview
less then 2%

I think you are spot on. I am shocked how few know about it. I know hurricane Frances is A story but come on. This has been a devastating event. My gut tells me that Putin is going to go nuts on these Islamofascists in a very non-PC way....

29 posted on 09/05/2004 10:57:19 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: oceanview

Sorry to disagree, but me thinks its less a 1 percent who knows. But hey don't feel bad, I'd guess 65-75 percent know that Clintoon is having heart surgery.


31 posted on 09/05/2004 10:59:04 PM PDT by KSApplePie_two
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To: Greenpees
I wish to see, not only the perpetrators of this horrible act torn to pieces by wild dogs, but also anyone and everyone who thinks that this act was even remotely "just".

Come to think of it, I'm surprised the ACLU, or possibly more appropriately, Amnesty International hasn't crawled out of their roach holes yet to defend this human garbage.

33 posted on 09/05/2004 11:01:34 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: dinok
So are our malls, Universities, Stadiums, and any other public place. Its an election year and our government is hoping nothing big happens.

Speaking of which, 9/11 is next Saturday. Lots of college football on the agenda that day. And nobody has said so much as a word about it.

34 posted on 09/05/2004 11:03:05 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Bobby777

"I suggest we employ out-of-work Americans to build a wall along our southern border ... yep, 1,000 miles or more ..."

I think if we have a terror attack in the next two months and it comes out of Mexico...Bush is toast in the election. The double digit lead will be a double digit swamp of the good ship Bush.

His unwillingness to curtail illegal entry from the South is one of his biggest failures and weaknesses.


35 posted on 09/05/2004 11:04:37 PM PDT by dinok
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To: Greenpees
I know I'm supposed to forgive, but it's hard.

It is beyond forgiveness now. If the islamists in our mist (civilized world) wanted to stop this, they could. Fatwahs could be issued from Mecca to main street, to stop the killing of non-muslims. But they do not. There must be "good" muslims who know where the bad ones live and what they are up to. They do not physically intervene. They are all guilty...Islam is WW3 and its time is now.

36 posted on 09/05/2004 11:05:58 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: dinok

Problem is, Dinok

I want thier entire culture eliminated, guily of direct involvement or not...and I know that's wrong. I have to ask myself if I would drop a bomb on a Chechyan village that also has large numbers of kids in it. The real problem I'm having is that I'm not so sure it wound't be for the best in the longer run. I need to cool off, or I need to buy into the fact that we'll never, ever be able to change them. In that case, Iraq/ Afganistan are also a waste of time.

I'm not a moral relativist. I want decisive action against these killers. The only question I have is, where do we stop?


37 posted on 09/05/2004 11:06:30 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Bobby777

Don't need a wall. A few million bouncing betty anti-personell land mines should do the trick. Also include a few observation posts manned by troops with command detonated claymores should do it.


38 posted on 09/05/2004 11:10:41 PM PDT by stumpy (M)
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To: dinok
So I have no qualms about helping them along. And neither should you.

No, I don't have any qualms, but slowly, so slowly, send them on their way.

39 posted on 09/05/2004 11:11:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota--I'm ALL FOR Global Warming!)
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To: dinok

I agree it is a failure ... as do many FReepers ... open borders 3 years after September 11 ... bad bad bad bad bad

that's why I think September - October attack on CONUS very likely ... it's Spain only here ... you know they have to be thinking that way ...

I have my fears but won't post public to keep from giving them (terrorists) ideas ... they've probably already thought of them anyway, but who knows?


40 posted on 09/05/2004 11:13:16 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Greenpees
"I want thier entire culture eliminated, guily of direct involvement or not...and I know that's wrong."

I don't think its wrong to want their "cultrure" gone. I do as well. Its their cult like culture that allows for them to murder in the name of God and glorify it. Their culture will not change until they are occupied and their children are taught for a generation to think differently. Its what changed the Krawts and Japs in to Germans and Japanese. The Arab world needs to be defeated, occupied and educated in to the 21st century.

Arabs need to realise that there is no other option but to get civilised quick. If not the next world war will be on their back yard. And the world will not be as polite about it as we were in Iraq.

41 posted on 09/05/2004 11:13:51 PM PDT by dinok
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To: blasater1960

I suspect that he will turn the SVR loose to hit some of the filth that gave the goahead for the horror. 10 or so hits will get the attention of the islamocrazies in other countries who turned the human filth loose in the neighborhood. Not that I have a problem with Spetsnaz doing some public retribution of the most personal and painful kind...


43 posted on 09/05/2004 11:14:48 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: stumpy

bouncing betty's and claymores? ... to protect our borders?

not too bad ... LOL

of course the wall would be more, politically correct and safer ...

bouncing betty's and claymores planted around Yasser Arafat? priceless ...


44 posted on 09/05/2004 11:16:08 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: jimmyBEEgood
"Have you ever heard the story of Wounded knee ???"

Actually I have...mine hurts all the time and I need an operation...Ha Ha.

45 posted on 09/05/2004 11:21:16 PM PDT by dinok
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To: risk

Just arm the teachers.


46 posted on 09/05/2004 11:22:42 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Bobby777

Putin should raze whatever's left to raze in Grozny to the ground, and replace Grozny with a pork sausage factory.


47 posted on 09/05/2004 11:23:57 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("John Kerry sees two Americas. It's mutual. America sees two John Kerrys.")
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To: Bobby777

I say we get cheap labor to build that wall...say ILLEGALS themselves...then throw them on the other side, and land mine our side..such a deal!!! :)


48 posted on 09/05/2004 11:27:03 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

the next 7-10 days will be interesting ... I thought they had stopped after the airliners and car bombing ... apparently not ...

what will be Russia's response? ... could be interesting ...

after all Putin launched 8 SS-21's (SCUDs) into a Grozny open air market in 1999 ... yep ...

(Iran launched 63 SCUD's into Iraq a few years back to hit anti-Iranian forces operating in Iraq)

bet the EW satellites of U.S. SPADOC went crazy when they saw those launches!!


49 posted on 09/05/2004 11:29:08 PM PDT by Bobby777
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