Kerry vet aide's extremist history: Joe Bangert lived in Hanoi, revered Ho Chi Minh

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, September 7, 2004 | JOSEPH FARAH

[JohnHuang2]

WASHINGTON – A John Kerry veterans' organizer lived in Hanoi for five years in the 1990s, testified that American troops skinned and crucified Vietnamese in the 1960s and joined the presidential candidate at an infamous 1971 meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War executive committee in which the assassination of U.S. senators was debated, Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin reports.

Joe Bangert, a Massachusetts English teacher and longtime friend of the junior senator, has campaigned with Kerry in several states and serves the campaign as a veterans' organizer.

At the Winter Soldier Investigation, sponsored by Jane Fonda and the VVAW in 1971, Bangert told some of the most hair-raising stories, reveals a report in the latest issue of the premium, online intelligence newsletter published by WorldNetDaily.

The former Marine who claims to have served with the Marine Observation Squadron with the First Marine Air Wing in 1968 said the atrocities he witnessed began on his first day in country.

"I was picked up by a truckload of grunt Marines with two company grade officers – first lieutenants," he told the Winter Soldier hearing in Detroit. "We were about five miles down the road, where there were some Vietnamese children at the gateway of the village and they gave the old finger gesture at us. It was understandable that they picked this up from GIs there. They stopped the trucks – they didn't stop the truck, they slowed down a little bit, and it was just like response, the guys got up, including the lieutenants, and just blew all the kids away. There were about five or six kids blown away, and then the truck just continued down the hill."

He also testified about observing South Vietnamese troops under U.S. command torture a woman prisoner by shooting her repeatedly, then disemboweling her and skinning her. He also claimed Vietnamese suspects and civilians were crucified under U.S. command.

Bangert, who lived in Hanoi for about five years in the 1990s and still travels to the Communist totalitarian capital, in 2001 called Jane Fonda a "heroine" for her controversial visits to North Vietnam during the war, according to G2 Bulletin.

In fact, Bangert, like Kerry, traveled to Paris to meet with the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong delegations. Bangert recalled the highlight for him was getting to sing "The Ballad of Ho Chi Minh" for the assembled guests. He boasts of having performed the ballad more than a thousand times in public. Bangert wore a shirt for the occasion emblazoned with the Viet Cong flag.

"She was a heroine to visit Vietnam under B-52 bombardment in July 1972, and this needs to be said aloud," he wrote about Fonda in the VVAW publication.

In 1997, Bangert was one of three former VVAW members to pay tribute in Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh on his birthday. Bangert joined Chuck Searcy and Eric Herter May 19 – which was also the 30th anniversary of the founding of the VVAW.

Bangert worked for Kerry throughout the primary season in New Hampshire, Missouri and South Carolina.

When Kerry gave his victory speech in New Hampshire on the night of the primary, Bangert stood on stage between the presidential candidate and former New Hampshire Governor Jean Shaheen.

And that should be no surprise given Bangert has worked for Kerry in most if not all of his campaigns, including his first run for the Senate going back to 1984.

Kerry first adamantly denied attending a November 1971 VVAW executive committee meeting in Kansas City at which the assassination of several U.S. senators was debated. Later, when the Kansas City Star tracked down 32-year-old FBI records affirming Kerry's attendance, his campaign explained that he "had no personal recollection" of the meeting. Bangert was there, too.

"We were rebelling," he explained. "We were decompressing from our time in Vietnam. We were incapable of doing violence."

[onyx]

Ooooooooooh, Joe Bangert sounds like Kerry's
equally evil twin brother. THIS is the first
I have heard of him.

PING = y'all know of this guy?

[Travis McGee]

Already posted! I wouldn't care, but it's already got a decent thread going. And believe it or not, I'm a distant relation of Bangert by marriage!

[Free ThinkerNY]

THe Rats are trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by presenting Kerry as a "war hero." A Commie doesn't change his color. He's still surrounding himself with his band of Red Brothers.

[onyx]

Link me to the thread, please.
Distant relative!!!!!!@!!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

John F. Kerry
Timeline of a traitor.
Click Here

Kerry's disrespect in 1971 to USA Symbols Video

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Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense
arabnews press release 25 August 2004
NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.


Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

Free online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it online right now.

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."


Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff

John F. Kerry Timeline of a traitor

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

Kerry's disrespect in 1971
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Send this url for the online "The New Soldier" version

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[kcvl]

Dear Sister Peggy,

Greetings from Cape Cod! My name is Joe Bangert, and I eyed your name on the email list from an email I received today from a mutual friend- Barbara Dane- and was motivated to introduce myself to you and tell you- apart from my love of both you and your brother's musical and artistic contributions to at least three generations of my family- how gratified I am to share with you my deep admiration of Ewan's 'Ballad of Ho Chi Minh'.

Sure I learned it by heart- after returning home from my stint as a door gunner on a Marine helicopter in Quang Tri, Viet Nam circa 1969. Six months later I upped and joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), and later met Barbara in Paris at the World Assembly for the Peace and Independence of the Indochinese Peoples at Versailles. We had a great banquet with the diplomatic delegations of both the DRVN and the PRGSVN and later some music began- Barbara sang the 'Song of the Coats' and the only song the young boisterous delegation from the USA could all agree on singing together by heart when asked to sing 'an American worker's song' was "Mercedes Benz" by Janis Joplin.

Barbara then asked me to join her on the stage- for I had boldly decided to wear a close fitting shirt which had emblazened on the front of it- the flag of the National Liberation Front of south Viet Nam.

It was then that I belted out both "We Will Liberate the South" (Giai Phong Mien Nam) the national anthem of the NLF in Vietnamese- for I am a linguist- and ended that portion of the show with the Ballad of Uncle Ho. It was a show stopper to say these least-

Since then I have sang Ewan's delightful song over one thousand times indeed- and when I was working back in Viet Nam, in Ha Noi from 1992-1997 I had the occasion to sing it and teach it to virtually thousands upon thousands of younger Vietnamese boys and girls-

I always give Ewan the credit for penning it. I just wanted you to know that this song rocks even in 2002~!


Best Regards,

Joe Bangert

******

Songs of Protest
By Bill Homans

It was my old VVAW brother Joe Bangert, who, with me, was to provide the VVAW presence at the big gig. Joe is cutting-edge hardcore; he spent five years in the 1990s living with the Vietnamese in Hanoi. That's right, y'all, the Vietnamese. Not the "North" or "South" Vietnamese; the Vietnamese. You remember that old expression from the 'Nam, "It don't mean nothin'"? Well, thirty-some years later, it does mean something. That, at least, we can say we accomplished, brothers: Vietnam is one country again. Right on.

Bill Homans, AKA Watermelon Slim, was Massachusetts state coordinator for VVAW in 1971-74. His 1973 album, "Merry Airbrakes," was the only album ever to be released by a Vietnam veteran during the war. Homans' latest CD is "Big Shoes to Fill"; samples and more information can be found at www.friedokrajones.com.

Photo of The Vietnam Songbook and more...


http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:p1nDEK-82c4J:www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/%3Fid%3D358+Joe+Bangert&hl=en

[kcvl]

GOING BACK--Part 5
copyright © 1994 by Valerie Schumacher, all rights reserved


Joe Bangert can't stay away from Vietnam either. He's been back to Vietnam more often than Danny, ten times in nine years. He has a wife and kids back home in New England. I wonder when the time will come when he won't go home at all.

"From the ice paddies to the rice paddies," he joked.

"When were you there?" I asked.

There? I was sitting in Hanoi when I asked him that question. Vietnam was here, not there. There was the war. Here was Vietnam.

snip

Joe grew to like the Vietnamese, really like them. That's one reason why he keeps returning today. In an odd twist of fate, or perhaps no twist at all, Joe now works in aviation in Vietnam, the same work he did during the war for the American military. He got back to Vietnam with the first group ever issued tourist visas and was caught by Geoffrey Clifford's camera lens hugging the enemy he never felt was his enemy. Back at home, I came face to face with Joe once again while flipping through Clifford's book on photographs on Vietnam. I'd had the book for ages, long before I ever considered going to Vietnam, long before I ever knew Clifford or Bangert, or knew they were friends. Vietnam makes a small world grow smaller.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:aY1aF76FRTEJ:grunt.space.swri.edu/valret5.htm+Joe+Bangert&hl=en

[FesterUSMC]

John F. Kerry's Flag

[Casloy]

They stopped the trucks – they didn't stop the truck, they slowed down a little bit, and it was just like response, the guys got up, including the lieutenants, and just blew all the kids away.

What a freakin liar. Why didn't anyone call him on that at the time? You don't even have to conduct an investigation to know that was a complete and utter lie. This whole thing with Kerry and the VVAW gets worse every day.

[kcvl]

Mr. Kerry's comrades of the anti-war veterans movement. Joe Bangert says that without their opposition, the war would have been longer and there would be more names of dead soldiers inscribed on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on the Mall in Washington.

"The efforts to shorten the war was not a bad thing, is not a traitorous thing," said Mr. Bangert. "In fact, anyone who goes to the Vietnam veterans memorial, if they look at the panels on the wall at the Vietnam veterans memorial, they have the Vietnam Veterans Against the War to thank for the number of panels that are not extended out further into that mall."

[kcvl]

JUST FIVE REASONS JOHN KERRY WILL BE A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN BUSH JR.

Kerry is a Vietnam Veteran and we Vietnam Vets can never really be welcomed home 'back in the world' until one of our own calls the White House home. Its time to give Bush his marching orders- "to the rear- march!"- Back to Crawford,TX. And let 44- JFK- restore America to her Camelothian BEST! Posted by Joe Bangert at March 15, 2004 02:58 PM

[kcvl]

Joe Bangert of Brewster can be seen directly behind Jean Shaheen in this photo from CNN of the Kerry camp celebrating John Kerry's victory in the New Hampshire primary. Bangert, like Kerry a Vietnam veteran, was in New Hampshire for five days working on Kerry's campaign.

[kcvl]

Veterans for Peace

Veterans Working Together Against War and Violence for Peace and Justice

About Face: Soldiers, Refugees and Other Victims Of WarThis program documents the effects of war on those who fight them, those who escape them, and those who are its victims. Militarism is viewed, not with sensationalist awe, but from the perspective of human beings who are personally affected. Refugees talk about their attempts to escape the violence of US supported governments in Central America, and the efforts of Vietnam Vets to deal with the still painful memories of the war and the difficulty of their return home are portrayed in several moving works. (58:00)



written and posted by Joe Bangert

[kcvl]

It seems that some of Kerry's "band of brothers" were protesting in Central Park against President Bush during the Republican convention!

******


Iraqi Vets Against the War Close Ranks with Vietnam Vets Against the War (Again)

During Sunday's monster protest against Bush and his stinking war it was Veterans who lead the march. During the march a clandestine picnic was hastily arranged among the veterans. The picnic was held in Central Park at Summit Rock. An illegal rally spontaneously took place (in accordance with the US Bill of Rights) and the torch was passed from the Vietnam generation to the Iraqi War generation who now comprise the Iraqi Veterans Against the War.

Hide di hide di hide di ho!
George W. Bush has got to go!
Sound off! One Two
Sound off! Three Four
Bring it in down
One two three four George Bush out the door!

New York City- August 30th



Another vet from Massachusetts, Joe Bangert stood up. He wore a shirt with the logo of the same icon for the fallen as the Iraqi Vets had adopted- except Bangert's shirt read: HOI CUU CHIEN BINH MY PHAN DOI CHIEN TRANH TAI VIETNAM- Vietnamese for Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

Bangert, a former machine door gunner on helicopters in Vietnam called all the troops to LISTEN UP!

Although speeches had been discouraged Bangert plowed ahead and suggested that on this Summit in Central Park that 'the time has come for those of us who have fought the good fight to pass the torch to you young Iraqi veterans'. He explained that for those former members of VVAW that only they could sympathize with the isolation that the Iraqi vets returning home from the bloody scenes in Najaf and Baghdad have. No one to understand the specifics of the horror they had just witnessed and experienced. Bangert even brazenly said 'when we Vietnam Vets came home America's greatest generation turned their backs on us.'

[kcvl]

Condemning the tactics and morality of the war, Kerry was "brilliant," Fonda says today. He looked like Abe Lincoln and sounded like John F. Kennedy. "He was our ragtag commander at Valley Forge," says veterans organizer Joe Bangert.

[Casloy]

This is kind of like getting endorsed by the KKK.

[onyx]

Excellent work.
Joe Bangert has been in the shadows too long.
Sunlight toasts him, doesn't it?

[kcvl]

From: Veterans for Change in 2004 outthedoorin2004@s
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 9:10 pm
Subject: 'Purple Heart' Band-Aids a Mockery of Service


Dick Bell, John Hurley, Tom Keefe, Burns Strider (INFO):

Joe Bangert passed this to me. He must have got it as an email alert being a member of Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA), but here's the link to the usnewswire story on YAHOO NEWS.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usnw/20040831/pl_usnw/_purple_heart__band_aids_a_mockery_of_service__statement_from_thomas_h__corey__national_president__vietnam_veterans_of_america1

'Purple Heart' Band-Aids a Mockery of Service; Statement from Thomas H. Corey, National President, Vietnam Veterans of America

Tue Aug 31, 6:52 PM ET




To: National Desk

Contact: Mokie Porter of the Vietnam Veterans of America, 301-585-4000 ext. 146 or 301-996-0901

WASHINGTON, Aug. 31 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a statement by Vietnam Veterans of America National President Thomas H. Corey:

Vietnam Veterans of America has received reports of delegates at the Republican National Convention disseminating and wearing "Purple Heart" band-aids in mockery of one of nation's most distinctive honors, the Purple Heart medal.

The Purple Heart is one of the oldest military awards, first introduced in 1782 by Gen. George Washington to honor the service and sacrifice of the common soldier and recognize the spirit of volunteerism and selfless dedication. It was reinstated in 1932. The Purple Heart is awarded to members of the armed forces who are wounded by the enemy.

The spirit of the award recognizes the personal sacrifice of our troops without regard to the severity or nature of the wound. It is the wounding itself that merits the honor. To demean the decoration and the sacrifice it symbolizes demeans all veterans and the patriots who honor them.

With our nation's sons and daughters at war to protect global freedom, demeaning military service in this way is especially hurtful. Vietnam Veterans of America urges all Americans to decry this type of outrageous, disrespectful, and infantile behavior.

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Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) is the nation's only congressionally chartered veterans service organization dedicated to the needs of Vietnam-era veterans and their families. VVA's founding principle is "Never again will one generation of veterans abandon another."

http://www.usnewswire.com/


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Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) endorsed Bill Clinton for President both times he ran.

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