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THE "New" CBS BUSH DOCUMENTS: Let's do some investigating
www.freerepublic.com | September 9, 2004

Posted on 09/08/2004 9:16:02 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: dwaynestomp

http://www.etypewriters.com/history.htm


81 posted on 09/08/2004 9:59:37 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin
We have one of those in the mail room at our office:)
82 posted on 09/08/2004 10:00:29 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: NYCVirago

I wonder if anyone involved in this understands the penalties for falisfying government documents, particularly military records.


83 posted on 09/08/2004 10:00:34 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: CyberAnt

Yeah, the MTST System was similar-- only it used magnetic tape (hence, Magnetic Tape Selectric Typewriter) and was about the size of a console piano. I actually went to IBM school in Mannheim Germany to learn this dinosaur for the army. Your tax dollars at work-- probably obsolete two years later. There's probably a warehouse full of 'em somewhere.


84 posted on 09/08/2004 10:01:09 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: wildbill
Your recollection of the Selectric is correct.

All the various fonts were monospaced, though.

But the Executive proportionally spaced. For example, a "i" received a one-half character space, an "n" got one character space, while an "m" got a character-and-a-half of space.

Each touch of the space bar moved the carriage one-half character.

85 posted on 09/08/2004 10:02:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Howlin

The ads for these typewriters are all in mono spaced fonts ...


86 posted on 09/08/2004 10:02:55 PM PDT by cohokie
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To: cohokie

Well, 12345 would have been too obvious, wouldn't it?

Surely someone in the Houston Area can check out that address and see if it is legit. There must be some kind of old city directory in the library that lists the address of that squadron (and should't it be on an Air Base Post Office and not the general Houston PO?).


87 posted on 09/08/2004 10:03:17 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: NYCVirago

No, there used to be executive typewriters that were out in the mid to late 70's, but you had to be an executive secretary to figure them out. They did proportionally space, but they certainly wouldn't have been in standard use because of the expense. Especially by National Guard units.


88 posted on 09/08/2004 10:03:53 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: cohokie

That is on another document. It may not be made up, but it is one strange quirk of luck.

My house address is 12345, so what are the chances?


89 posted on 09/08/2004 10:04:15 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Dolphy
You can kill somebody with this baby:


90 posted on 09/08/2004 10:04:59 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin

See my post number 88. Do you remember these things? Big, bulky and horrendously expensive?


91 posted on 09/08/2004 10:05:18 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: fat city

From this web page, http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Typewriter we find the following history of the electric typewriter:
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Selectric mechanisms were widely incorporated into computer terminals in the 1970s, ... .

Later models of Selectrics ... introduced selectable "pitch" so that the typewriter could be switched among pica ("10 pitch"), elite ("12 pitch"), and sometimes agate ("15 pitch"), even in one document. Even so, all Selectrics were monospaced -- each and every character was the same width. Although IBM had produced a successful typebar-based machine, the IBM Executive, with proportional spacing, no proportionally-spaced Selectric office typewriter was ever introduced. There was, however, a much more expensive proportionally-spaced machine called the Selectric Composer which was considered a typesetting machine rather than a typewriter.


92 posted on 09/08/2004 10:05:40 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Terp

Well guard units funding comes from the states, depending on the unit sometimes they got great brand new stuff or put up with old cast off junk. If this was the so-called 'Champagne" outfit of the TxANG they probaly got pretty good stuff


93 posted on 09/08/2004 10:05:44 PM PDT by Wild_Bill_8881
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To: cohokie

Explain to me why you're telling me that.........LOL.


94 posted on 09/08/2004 10:05:55 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Terp

You got that right. I worked for USAREUR & 7th Army and NATO.


95 posted on 09/08/2004 10:05:55 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: All
Somehow we need to have these documents checked by someone else in the media. See-BS and the rest of the Media Wing of the Democrat Party are whoring for Kerry so much that they'll do anything, including fake documents, to try and hurt the President.

Who to contact I don't know except for Rush and Hannity. There has to be a way to prove these documents real or fake and if they're fake, to show See-BS for what they really are.

96 posted on 09/08/2004 10:06:18 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: Dolphy
What should have been the final destination of these documents? Should they have become part of Bush's file? And why the hard-nosed attitude?

These document purport to show an officer that had disobeyed a "direct order" to take his flight physical. Now, as GW's commanding officer that memo should have been carbon copied to all involved up the chain of command plus GW's own personnel file. We can see that no one was copied, no copies from Bush's pentagon files are include his copy. This "commanding officer" either put his own career and credibility on the line by suppressing the memo OR he didn't write the damn things.

97 posted on 09/08/2004 10:06:56 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: Terp
"A Reserve Unit would be the last to get state of the art anything."

It was as true then as it is today.

I've composed and read thousands of official Air Force memos during the 60's, 70's and 80's. These have the reek of modern-day forgery all over them.

98 posted on 09/08/2004 10:07:50 PM PDT by AF68
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To: Howlin
I am pretty sure I can prove the Lt. Col. Jerry Killian memo is a fake.

Looking at one of Bush's annual fitness reports his rating officer noted that "He cleared this base [Ellington AFB] on 15 May 1972 and has been performing equivalent training in a non flying status with the 187th Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama."

Jerry Killian must had an imaginary Bush discussion. This is why democrats just hate the Bandit.

99 posted on 09/08/2004 10:08:21 PM PDT by The Bandit
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To: rocklobster11
could they do superscript

Some memos have it some don't --- Different typewriters or typists.

100 posted on 09/08/2004 10:10:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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