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Newsrooms under siege
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 9/9/04 | Edward Wasserman

Posted on 09/09/2004 7:31:10 AM PDT by ZGuy

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To: ZGuy

Awwww. Maybe we should send him some cheese to go with his whine...


22 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:16 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: ZGuy
bottom line folks
it has nothing to do with integrity
it has nothing to do with honesty
it has nothing to do with current events(good or bad)

it's $$$$$$$$$$

people will seek the truth..it just so happens when people get both sides to a story, they have a tendency to return to that source.


Doogle
23 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:25 AM PDT by Doogle (8th AF..Ubon Thailand..408thMMS...."69"...Night Line Delivery,,Ammo Dump)
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To: ZGuy

It feels so good to see Old Media squirm as it dies a slow, painful and well-deserved death...


24 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:51 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (The people have spoken...the b*stards!)
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To: Piranha

Outstanding post! Journalism isn't brain surgery. It turns out that pretty much anyone can be a decent blogger (read "news editor"), even working part time.

Some of my leftist friends are stymied by Fox News. They insist that they lie and just make stuff up. I tried to explain to them that media bias usually doesn't manifest itself by reporting fake news. Media bias is mostly a function of excluding real news that doesn't fit an agenda.

When Fox runs a story and then 3 days later, it shows up in the New York Times, that's not Fox's "bias". That's a SCOOP. It used to be considered a GOOD thing.


25 posted on 09/09/2004 7:58:25 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: jriemer

Right. It seems there aren't many reporters left who are capable of gathering facts and writing them down in plain english.


26 posted on 09/09/2004 7:58:28 AM PDT by ampat
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To: ZGuy

How easily he excuses the bias that has been the cause of the awakening of the masses to the bald face distortions and slanted reporting of the anti-American communist news agencies.

That segment of zealots contains the majority of main stream Americans who have switched to Fox News to sop up slivers of fair reporting.

It is the minority of zealots, that dare to claim majority status, that makes up the major news networks that hate patriotism, nationalism, and the American culture. Their day is ending, and one cannot help but take pleasure at their discomfort.


27 posted on 09/09/2004 7:58:45 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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28 posted on 09/09/2004 7:59:21 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: ZGuy

"a free-floating cadre of rightist warriors"
This seems to be a step up from right-wing extremists, being a warrior is a good thing, no? Especially when one is right.


29 posted on 09/09/2004 7:59:41 AM PDT by geros
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To: ZGuy

Once again the Left demonstrates that it expects a complete, unchallenged monopoly or it will whine about how unfair life is.


30 posted on 09/09/2004 8:00:41 AM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Misunderestimated Again Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: ZGuy
...It's hard now even to write for publication without...

...But it's hard to read the hand-wringing confessionals from news ...

...But it's hard enough to get the story right, without...

Literally, this is a case of bitch, bitch, bitch.

31 posted on 09/09/2004 8:01:40 AM PDT by Repairman Jack
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To: JeeperFreeper
Great post. Journalists are beginning to whine. "WAAAAAHHH....WWWAAAAHHH.... I'm being forced to be truthful and balanced". Thank God for computers and the internet. Liberal lies and liars are being spotted and counterattacked almost instantly.My thoughts exactly. Waaah....waaaah..... They all have that trait in common, don't they?
32 posted on 09/09/2004 8:03:14 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Piranha

As a graduate of the University of Minnesota School of Journalism (late 80s), I agree with you.

I think part of the visceral reaction we see from those who run the "mainstream" media nowadays centers on the fact that there are news consumers today who can make news judgments on their own - and are no longer afraid to sing out when they feel wronged.

Most consumers can't perform the tasks that you and I were trained to do (although some, especially bloggers, can and do), but the point of the matter is that at least from an editorial standpoint, there are people who know at least as much as the editors. That frightens them, and the result is the pablum we see quoted by this writer.


33 posted on 09/09/2004 8:03:16 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it. - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: dirtboy

I lost my respect for CNN during the invasion of Iraq, when Eason Jordan EVP and Chief News Executive of CNN, wrote an OpEd piece in (as I recall) the NY Times, defending CNN's news coverage from Iraq over the years.

In that article, he admitted that CNN routinely withheld information and flattered Saddam (I don't think he mentioned it in the article, but CNN's puff piece on his birthday party was one egregious example) in order to protect its access to Iraq. CNN even went so far as to withhold information that could have saved the lives of Saddam's sons-in-law who returned to Iraq from Jordan and were killed by him. If even refused to report on threats and torture of its own people.

What was the point of maintaining this access, if the access wasn't used to report the news?

The punchline of the story is that the Times apparently didn't find anything objectionable in Jordan's news decisions. I have not watched CNN for years, so I can't comment about its current coverage. I do know that the NY Times has gone beyond all boundries of common decency, and has utterly failed to uphold the first principle, that news belongs in the news pages and opinion belongs in the opinion pages and news-analysis pieces.

The NY Times used to be my secular bible. Today, I don't even buy it at airports, even for the crossword puzzle.


34 posted on 09/09/2004 8:03:42 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: ZGuy

40 Days of Abu Garib prison stories by the NYT ring any bells?

HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????????????????


35 posted on 09/09/2004 8:04:20 AM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: intolerancewillNOTbetolerated
Once again the Left demonstrates that it expects a complete, unchallenged monopoly or it will whine about how unfair life is.

Isn't that the theme of the Kerry Campaign?

36 posted on 09/09/2004 8:05:01 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: ZGuy
But anybody who enters the profession makes a core commitment to do his or her best to determine and tell the truth. And that commitment is now under assault. ?

Just the facts, bub, give us the facts. We didn't ask you to interpret them for us.

37 posted on 09/09/2004 8:05:11 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

If Fox made stuff up, we would see a spate of articles about Fox's sloppy reporting. I can't recall a single one.


38 posted on 09/09/2004 8:05:31 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: ZGuy

Let me get thsi straight. The author thinks he shouldn't provide both good news and bad news because the right wing demands it ? Shouldn't it be a concept that is germaine to accurate reporting ?


39 posted on 09/09/2004 8:06:58 AM PDT by VRWC_minion ( I'll send email telling you where to send check.)
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To: dirtboy
FR has thousands of very informed persons, and you can take almost any subject and you will have FR posters who have personal and/or expert knowledge of the subject. And differences of opinion and variances of facts are tried in a very public court on the threads. That is where FR is vastly superior to the blogs and the MSM.

Excellent post. Don't you just love it?!

40 posted on 09/09/2004 8:07:43 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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