Posted on 09/09/2004 11:44:01 AM PDT by Peach
Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:41 PM EST
By Melanie Hunter CNSNews.com Deputy Managing Editor September 09, 2004 02:34 pm
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a current word processing program, according to typography experts. Three independent typography experts told CNSNews.com they were suspicious of the documents from 1972 and 1973 because they were typed using a proportional font, not common at that time, and they used a superscript font feature found in today's Microsoft Word program. More to Come
Selectric online museum with sample fonts:
http://www.selectric.org/selectric/index.html
http://www.hughhewitt.com/
Yup, looks like he will be.
See #141 for online museum of typewriter fonts.
Good find, gilliam!
Schnit (sp?) just mentioned this on his show.
Don't put too much stock on signatures. Each one of my "fast" signatures turns out differently.
From the Kerry Spot:
http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp
MORE EXPERT ANALYSIS [09/09 03:22 PM]
Bill of InDCJournal.com (http://www.indcjournal.com/ ) has posted analysis of the document from a forensic document examiner named Dr. Peter Bouffard.
One key excerpt:
In the document provided by CBS News, the number 4 does not "have a foot" and has a “closed top,” which is indicative of Times New Roman, a font exclusive to more modern computer word processing programs. other characters matched the old proportional spacing fonts (available on only a small few typewriters of the era), but this number did not (please note that this is only an initial analysis with numerical characters).
Dr. Bouffard ran this number and could not find a match in his entire database of over 4,000 typewriter fonts that have been maintained and collected into his computer database since 1988. Otherwise, the font is very indicative of Times New Roman, the font that is only available on computer word processing programs...
Once again, let’s not forget the qualifications: it's a bad copy of a copy and we have no original document for review, but, based on the initial analysis of the documents by an industry expert with over 30 years of experience in typesetting and forensic document examination, the documents “could just well be a fabrication.”
Read the whole thing. And good work, Bill, putting the spotlight on the awesome investigative power of the blogosphere.
Very obviously Begala or Carville as part of a scandal fatigue strategy. The Bush Guard story is harmless to him so there was no danger to the Kerry camp in neutralizing it in the hopes that it would make people not want to hear about the swiftvets.
The IBM selectric could do a superscript without having to stop and move the return up a half space (I think there was a button for superscript and subscript). But I don't think it could do a superscript (i.e., a footnote or a "th") in a reduced font size without changing the ball. You could do that with a typesetter, but a typesetter would have only been used if the document was intended to be printed.
Rather ought to have the network he shills for renamed KBS.
It would be interesting to see the original paper. A typewriter would leave imprints on page. Of course a laserjet printout just prints out the text by painting it on the page instead of mechanically imprinting on the page. Bet we never see the original documents!!! Just copies!
Ahhhh... But if this forgery story gets out into the MSM, then it's incredibly dangerous to the Kerry camp. And I think it's getting out.
Actually I think we Freepers should buy up what is left of CBS and compete against FOX. Competition should be awesome!
It's apparent that the Lt. Col wrote these for CYA (Cover Your Ass) so obviously he would make anyone else out to look bad, himself, good.
Bottom line, these memo's aren't that damning. All they say is exactly what Bush said happened. It's just written in a scornful tone, exactly what you'd think someone would do in a "CYA" memo.
Making a big deal out of this may backfire. These memo's aren't worth it.
We should concentrate on Kerry's work in the VVAW for the Viet Cong.
Check the exact matches on this reply done on MS Word compared to the "1973" memos. I did the same as reply #55 and got a match as well.
But if it's NOT a forgery, then what?
I'll bet someone from CBS is right now hunting antique shops or e-bay to prove that such a typewriter existed in 1972. When they prove it, and they will, we'll eat crow.
"And we will NOT get credit!!!!"
Dude, your credit will be a Bush win in November. That, and exposing CBS for the lying frauds that they are. Story starting to hit, once again discrediting the MSM. Dan Rather and the rest of the socialist media simply cannot pull this kind of cr*p anymore without some eagle-eyed FReeper being on it!
Good job all!!
The guy on Little Green Footballs has superimposed the pdf of the memo from the CBS website with one he created with MS Word in Times New Roman 12. They are exact, perfect, inerrant duplicates.
I completely agree with you regarding the VVAW. And that will be handled by former POW's.
In the interim, this from a military freeper:
1--the month in a military date is always three letters. August is spelled out.
2--no one issues an "order" through a "memo." Maybe a letter, but nothing as informal as a "memo."
3--the signature (initials) of Lt. Col. Killian is clearly a cut-and-paste job. The last letter ("K") is cut off at the top, where two lines start to curve toward each other in a loop. Impossible to to do by hand. This signature was cut from another document and pasted or taped on the document.
4--No letterhead. Do you really think commanders typed out a the squadron on every letter? No. Letterhead was used.
5--No way there were superscripts back then. No way. Even if it was theoretically possible (which it wasn't), the national guard isn't exactly an early-adopter of technology. This ability wasn't even available at any price for several years.
No matter what else, there is one CLEAR smoking gun, those superscript fonts are a dead giveaway.
No matter what else comes out, you can't get away from that. NO ONE in government or military would spend the 10 - 20K typesetting involved to have a professional printer / typesetter set those superscripts.
And to think they would do it for a military order, from a Colonel, even a full bird Colonel is pure insanity.
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