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ONE MORE ARGUMENT (CBS Documents)
National Review ^ | 9-9-04

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:35 PM PDT by ambrose

ONE MORE ARGUMENT

As much as the Kerry Spot has tried to keep up with this, PowerLine has been on top of this story all day long. That site just presented what ought to be the straw that breaks the camel's back:

In the August 18, 1973 memo "discovered" by 60 Minutes, Jerry Killian purportedly writes:

Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job.

But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.

Okay, CBS. The ball's in your court. Explain all this. Make all of this make sense. Don't completely ignore all of this, like you just did on the CBS Evening News.

If CBS ignores this, and gives no counterargument, no defense, then the general public will have no choice but to conclude that the network ran with a hoax - and now refuses to retract a lie.

[Posted 09/09 07:11 PM]


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1 posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:36 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: Howlin

my own my...


2 posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:55 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: ambrose

Oh man, that's awesome. This is going to down in history alongside Piltdown Man.


3 posted on 09/09/2004 4:31:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: ambrose

hmmmmmm


4 posted on 09/09/2004 4:32:41 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ambrose

It just keeps getting better and better....and funnier and funnier!


5 posted on 09/09/2004 4:33:19 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: ambrose

Yeah that's it. Let's call it the Piltdown memo.


6 posted on 09/09/2004 4:33:25 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: ElkGroveDan
This is going to down in history alongside Piltdown Man

Piltdown Dan.

7 posted on 09/09/2004 4:33:33 PM PDT by AHerald
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To: ambrose

Who is Hodges?


8 posted on 09/09/2004 4:33:49 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: ambrose

ping


9 posted on 09/09/2004 4:34:46 PM PDT by pgobrien (NADER 2004....just to PO the Libs here in NY........)
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To: ambrose
CBS=Communist Broadcast Station "We throw out the propaganda you decipher it"
10 posted on 09/09/2004 4:34:54 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: ambrose

It bothers me that this memo doesn't refer to anyone by rank. I've never seen a Lt. Col. be so casual on paper when referring to a General.


11 posted on 09/09/2004 4:34:57 PM PDT by countess
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To: ambrose

OMG......this is just TOO rich!


12 posted on 09/09/2004 4:35:38 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: ambrose

Okay, who or what is Piltdown Man? Thanks!


13 posted on 09/09/2004 4:35:41 PM PDT by Rep-for-real
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To: ambrose
Relevant LAT paragraph (link above requires registration, and though it's 6 months old, is not archived-strange):

Bush's application, as well as his commission, were handled by then-Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, who said, "Nobody did anything for him…. There was no … influence on his behalf. Neither his daddy nor anybody else got him into the Guard." Staudt, who retired in 1972 as a brigadier general, said Bush was enrolled quickly because there was a demand for pilot candidates.

Just d**n.

14 posted on 09/09/2004 4:36:16 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Savage Rider

This is better than when they staged a GM pickup crash to demonstrate "unsafe" gas tanks.


15 posted on 09/09/2004 4:36:32 PM PDT by vigilence
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To: ambrose
Oh what a wicked web we weave (CBS) when we attempt to deceive. *EVIL GRINS ALL AROUND***


anyone got popcorn I want to sit back and enjoy this....

This puppy has picked up and starting running since this morning...

My questions is, is CBS going to come out and apologize, or release a statement saying that a bunch of Internet kooks are wrong about what they are seeing....

I am pretty sure that they will come out and call us all kooks, because it would be beneath Dan Rather, Leslie Monves and company to come out and admit they were wrong.
16 posted on 09/09/2004 4:36:34 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
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To: ambrose
If CBS ignores this, and gives no counterargument, no defense, then the general public will have no choice but to conclude that the network ran with a hoax - and now refuses to retract a lie.

CBS has crossed the line from being a "News" organization to being a propaganda organ for the DNC/Left-Wing. They don't retract lies ... they manufacture them.

17 posted on 09/09/2004 4:36:42 PM PDT by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: ambrose

Just being a devils advocate here -

I also think they are forgeries, but just because the General retired the year before does not mean he could not lobby or exert influence.


18 posted on 09/09/2004 4:36:43 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: ElkGroveDan

from BBC News:

Piltdown Man went from being one of the biggest discoveries of the 20th Century to being its greatest scientific embarrassment.

On 21 November 1953, the fossils discovered 40 years earlier and acclaimed as the "missing link" between apes and humans were finally revealed to be forgeries.

Today, the word Piltdown is a term of abuse, used to label any fraudulent or shoddy research.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/sci_nat/03/piltdown_man/html/default.stm


19 posted on 09/09/2004 4:37:12 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: ambrose

Looks like Wesley Clark's been fartin' around in his time machine again.


20 posted on 09/09/2004 4:38:31 PM PDT by tbpiper
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