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ABC NEWS THE NOTE CREDITS BUCKHEAD AS 1st to uncover forgery
ABC NEWS THE NOTE ^ | 09/10/04

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:46:03 AM PDT by alisasny

Here's part of how this story got here . . . from a little Marc Ambinder back-lurking on the blogs . . .

At 8:00 pm ET Wednesday night, CBS News does the story . . .

at 8:59 ET — before the broadcast is finished!!! — the documents come into question via a poster named Buckhead on the Free Republic Web site: LINK

Buckhead seems well-read on his forensic document examination skills. "Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts. The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts. I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old."

Well, this is bandied about by dozens of Freepers, as they're called and is picked up at 8:30 am ET and added to by www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ — this little green football guy is a very popular conservative blogger . . .

It's expanded upon by www.powerlineblog.com/ in the early morning:

and also by www.spacetownusa.com/hmmm

and here, at 10:36 am ET: www.allahpundit.com/.

Around midday, the popular author Roger L. Simon praises the blogosphere for getting this story . . . LINK

Between this time and mid-day, reporters in the MSM — that's the Main Stream Media to these folks (that's us) — are alerted by some sources to the blogosphere's agita . . . others have read the blogs themselves.

At 2:41 pm ET, one blogger even consulted his own forensic expert and told anyone using the blog that, well, they must credit him: indcjournal.com/.

To Drudge, around 3:00 pm ET . . .

and the Weekly Standard . . . around 5:00 pm ET . . .

to Fox after 6:00 pm ET and then the AP and then ABC . . .

John Podhoretz credits the blogosphere, as he should: LINK

In other stories: The Washington Post 's VandeHei and Edsall report on the "multi-front attack on President Bush's National Guard service" by Democrats yesterday. Notably there is only one line about the controversy over the authenticity of the documents unearthed by CBS News, with the paper dealing with that separately in another story Noted below. LINK

The Boston Globe does not get into the debate about the documents, focusing instead on the full-throated DNC push on Bush's service. LINK

A New York Times editorial on the new documents and Bush's Guard service does include a reference to the documents' authenticity being challenged. LINK

The White House lobs claims that the Kerry team is behind attacks on Bush's military service record. The Washington Times ' Bill Sammon reports White House press secretary Scott McClellan describes it as desperate measures for desperate times. "You absolutely are seeing a coordinated attack by John Kerry and his surrogates on the president." LINK

The New York Daily News writes that the revival of debates over Kerry and Bush's military records is turning New York voters off. LINK

Corky Siemaszko of the New York Daily News reports President Bush' former Harvard Business School proof, Yoshi Tsurumi, has come out of the woodwork to say his former student supported the Vietnam War but did not want to fight it. Tsurumi says Bush claimed his father's connections got him into the Texas Air National Guard. "But what really disturbed me is that he said he was for the Vietnam War," said Tsurumi.. "I said, 'George, that's hypocrisy. You won't fight a war that you support but you expect other people to fight it for you.' He just smirked." LINK

Rowan Scarborough of the Washington Times writes "For years, the Democratic attacks have centered on two charges, including one that Mr. Bush failed to meet drilling requirements from mid-1972 to early 1973. A less-persistent accusation was that he used his father's status as a prominent Texas politician to win entry into the Guard after he graduated from Yale and faced the military draft in 1968. That charge has never been proved. And the White House thought it had snuffed out the question on non-drill compliance last winter, when it released records showing he was paid for the drills during the period in question and that he received sufficient points to achieve an honorable discharge in October 1973 as he entered Harvard Business School." LINK


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1 posted on 09/10/2004 7:46:04 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: alisasny; Buckhead

Buckhead: You made ABC's The Note!


2 posted on 09/10/2004 7:47:07 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: alisasny

Kudos!


3 posted on 09/10/2004 7:47:21 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: alisasny

Well, FReepers rock.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 7:47:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: alisasny
Post 47 bump.........

"I told you so" GWB


5 posted on 09/10/2004 7:47:41 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Buckhead

Can I have your autograph??


6 posted on 09/10/2004 7:48:08 AM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg
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To: alisasny
Algore must be kicking himself now for inventing the internet.....LOL!!
7 posted on 09/10/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Howlin

You're a celebrity by association!


8 posted on 09/10/2004 7:48:13 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The New Media: Thank God and Algore for the Internet!)
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To: alisasny

I thought there was another "Freeper" involved as well.


9 posted on 09/10/2004 7:48:33 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Rebelbase; Howlin

THANK GOD FOR THE POWER OF THE LIVE THREAD : )


10 posted on 09/10/2004 7:48:46 AM PDT by alisasny ("BREAKING: PETA OUTRAGED, Kerry to use hampsters to fire spitballs.")
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To: alisasny
W doesn't stand for Women.

W doesn't stand for Wrong.

Wstands for WHOOP A--!

11 posted on 09/10/2004 7:49:08 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Buckhead

The collective IQ at FreeRepublic is a very big number.

In fact, the exponent on that number is itself a very big number!

CB^)


12 posted on 09/10/2004 7:49:50 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: alisasny
Coming soon to CBS, a new reality show...

"Celebrity Mole: The Kerry Campaign"

Who is the mole bringing down the Kerry campaign? Carville, Begala? McAuliffe? The Clintons?

The twist is: they're all moles.

13 posted on 09/10/2004 7:50:13 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: alisasny

Notice, however, that the Note's chronology is intended to suggest the whole thing is a GOP set-up, because no one without inside knowledge that the documents were forgeries could possibly have spotted the problems with the documents as quickly as Buckhead did.


14 posted on 09/10/2004 7:50:32 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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To: Spunky

15 posted on 09/10/2004 7:50:35 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Buckhead; Howlin

Ya'all are famous! We're not worthy, LOL!


16 posted on 09/10/2004 7:50:39 AM PDT by MamaLucci ("The "F" stands for "Forgery"......(among other things).)
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To: Buckhead; Howlin

I'm so proud of you both I'm bursting at the seams!


17 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:10 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (Anal sex is not a family value!)
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To: alisasny
Yoshi Tsurumi, has come out of the woodwork to say his former student supported the Vietnam War but did not want to fight it

Off the subject but... I am so tired of that bull sh#t line.

If liberals are so in favor of the public schools, why do they send their kids to expensive private schools?

If they are in favor of higher taxes, why don't they pay taxes at a higher rate?

If they are against pollution why do they fly around the country in private jets, ride in limosines and drive SUV's like the rest of us?

18 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:20 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: MamaLucci

And they are famous for the right reasons. For a worthy and just reason. Pretty incredible.


19 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:45 AM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: Buckhead

Dude, you join Registered and others in the annals of Free Republic history as one whose work broke into the main stream and literally CHANGED an election.

Ascend Mt. Olympus good sir.


20 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:51 AM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: alisasny
Brave New World!

Any one of us now can make a big difference!

21 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:25 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Peach; Buckhead

Wow. I am honored to be in the company of so many who push the envelope and ask the right questions....and then persist for the answers! Buckhead, thank you for getting the forces on the right track! :) Kudos! Bravo!


22 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:32 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: alisasny; Buckhead

Tip o' the hat to Buckhead!!

23 posted on 09/10/2004 7:54:00 AM PDT by haywoodwebb (American, Christian, Conservative, Negro . . . A return to the Party of Lincoln)
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To: alisasny

"Digital Brownshirts" RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God save the republic!


24 posted on 09/10/2004 7:54:17 AM PDT by petro45acp ("I detest socialism.......and I VOTE!")
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To: alisasny

Dan Rather-Blather.

Welcome To
Boycott Dan Blather

http://www.boycottdanblather.com/new%20web%20site%20page%203.htm

http://www.nicedoggie.net/archives/004277.html


25 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: OnTheDress

There are some impressive people on this web site.


26 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:12 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: Bonaventure
Yeah, I like this part:

And Democrats can rightly say that Fox News Channel seems to like the "forgery" story more than the original CBS version.

Oh, that Fox, focusing on the "forgery" angle over the "CBS version". The unfairness of it all!"

LOL

28 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:34 AM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Peach
Freerepublic is smokin' today. I'll bet the usage is off the chart.

Also, as noted on another thread.

Buckhead deserves a Pulitzer

29 posted on 09/10/2004 7:56:10 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: alisasny
"Buckhead seems well-read on his forensic document examination skills."

This comes as no surprise to those familiar with Free Republic. Extremely well-read, well informed, and intelligent people post consistently on FR.

30 posted on 09/10/2004 7:56:39 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush.)
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To: Bonaventure

CBS need only name their source and their expert.


31 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:16 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: dinasour

I notice a distinct drop-off in the number of trolls joining us as well.

Even the DNC plants who have been among us for years have been quiet. Hah!


32 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:18 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Forgive me please, but I really enjoy pouring salt on slugs.....


5. To: rockchalker (#0)

we have to give the credit to freerepublic

TLBSHOW  posted on  2004-09-10   10:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace



33 posted on 09/10/2004 7:58:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The New Media: Thank God and Algore for the Internet!)
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To: jriemer

LOL!


34 posted on 09/10/2004 7:58:26 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: alisasny; Buckhead

Great Job Guys! This is an excellent example how Freedom of Speech works and why the FreeRepublic is so important.


35 posted on 09/10/2004 7:58:31 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The Swiftboat Vets - Patriotic Americans STILL serving their country!)
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To: alisasny

We're bad, we're nationwide!


36 posted on 09/10/2004 7:59:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: alisasny
Thanks for posting this, alisasny. Does FR rock or what?? ;-D
37 posted on 09/10/2004 7:59:54 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: alisasny

Big ATTA BOY!!


38 posted on 09/10/2004 8:00:06 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: alisasny
Excellent work Howlin, Buckhead and others . What a magnificent team effort from fellow freepers on this site! This is what drew me to this site; people willing to work together to bring truth to light. Heroes all!
39 posted on 09/10/2004 8:00:09 AM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: alisasny

40 posted on 09/10/2004 8:00:20 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kerry Kool-Aid: Changes flavors with every sip. Being Wrong is better than being F'n Wrong.)
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To: lightingguy

ping


41 posted on 09/10/2004 8:00:48 AM PDT by agrace
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To: MistyCA
Watch out! The lamestream media are already laying the groundwork for a charge that this was a hoax concocted by teh VRWC to dupe the media and make Bush look good. In a radio news broadcast, they mentioned that it seemed strange that for such a rare field of expertise, there were so many experts available so soon to debunk this hoax.

If there are very few experts on typewriter fonts and the like, it is because so few are needed, as so many laymen understand fonts and typewriters and word processors.

Not only is it a forgery, it is a clumsy and awkward forgery.

And the AP story in my local paper spends most of its space repeating the negative statements against Bush, and then mentions the Killian son's slightly disparaging remarks but fails to mention the facts that show that this is definitely a forgery.

42 posted on 09/10/2004 8:00:49 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: alisasny

SWEET!


43 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: alisasny

BUCKHEAD AS FREEPER OF THE YEAR! Should get a special invatation from President Bush to attend one of the balls on January 20, 2005.


44 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:39 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The time is coming for all true Patriots to rise up and take back this Republic!)
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To: alisasny; Buckhead

New war cry at DU:

"Don't be a Buckhead, vote for Kerry."

New 527:

"Buckheads for Bush!"


45 posted on 09/10/2004 8:02:46 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: alisasny
To echo post #14, here is what is written in the Note right before the beginning of your excerpt

We always favor looking at the content and substance over WHO is offering up the information, but in the war that will ensue about WHO gave CBS the potentially phony documents, it is interesting to Note that the right (Drudge, Fox, right-leaning blogs, others) led the way in pointing out the questions we have all been asking — and they were onto the questions, with remarkable detail, relatively soon after the documents were made public.

Clearly, the implication is that the Right gave the documents to CBS to set them up.

What these people don't understand is the robust nature of the complex system that is the Internet. Just looking at Free Republic, after Buckhead raised this issue, we instantly had 100's of people communicating and researching. These folks included Freepers who are document experts, some who are military who used the equiptment in question back in the 1970's, many who are frequent users of MS Word and recognized the documentation - the list goes on. All of these folks were instantly looking into this and, this is the important part, were able to talk to each other.

Such a dynamic is extremely powerful and one we have seen many times on FR. It is that dynamic that is confusing the MSM because they have never seen it and don't understand it.

46 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:56 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Petronski

In the pantheon of FReeRepublic:

Jim Robinson
Kristinn
Registered
Dr. Raoul
Angelwood
Buckhead
Howlin
Tonk

And not necessarily in that order. (There are others, I just can't think of 'em right now)


47 posted on 09/10/2004 8:05:02 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: alisasny
GoGov.com has reference up also. Web forum uncovers Forged CBS Documents
48 posted on 09/10/2004 8:05:06 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: Buckhead

We're Not Worthy! :)

49 posted on 09/10/2004 8:05:27 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: alisasny
Free Republic Strikes Again!

Liberal Weenies Cringe In Fear In The Shadows!

Dan Rather Sputters Uncontrollably!
50 posted on 09/10/2004 8:05:53 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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