Posted on 09/14/2004 2:18:24 PM PDT by ambrose
Former secretary says she didn't type memos 04:10 PM CDT on Tuesday, September 14, 2004
By PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News
HOUSTON – The former secretary for the Texas Air National Guard colonel who supposedly authored memos critical of President Bush’s Guard service said Tuesday that the documents are fake, but that they reflect real documents that once existed.
Marian Carr Knox, who worked from 1956 to 1979 at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston, said she prided herself on meticulous typing, and the memos first disclosed by CBS News last week were not her work.
“These are not real,” she told The Dallas Morning News after examining copies of the disputed memos for the first time. “They’re not what I typed, and I would have typed them for him.”
Mrs. Knox, 86, who spoke with precise recollection about dates, people and events, said she is not a supporter of Mr. Bush, who she deemed “unfit for office” and “selected, not elected.”
“I remember very vividly when Bush was there and all the yak-yak that was going on about it,” she said.
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Good one!
“selected, not elected.”
She must've voted in Palm Beach.
I think she must have spoken with Dan Rather recently, since he's been using the "selected, not elected" phrase since before Bush was inaugurated:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2001/cyb20010116.asp#1
"Knox told the DRUDGE REPORT that she did not vote for Bush in 2000 because he is 'unqualified' for the job, and does not intend to vote for him in 2004, either."
This has always puzzled me when people say this. That he was 'unqualified' for the job.
So a governor of one of the biggest states, elected twice to that position, is less qualified than someone who was governor of one of the smallest states.
I wish people could see how foolish they sound when they say such things.
No more foolish than when they say "I'm voting for John Kerry."
Stupid is as stupid does.
According to the constitution, the qualifications for a presidential candidate are:
1. Natural Born Citizen
2. At least 35 years of age
3. Lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years
4. Not already been president twice
GWB met all 4 criteria in 2000 and still does. However, in 2008, he will not.
Good one!
1. If they reflect real documents that once existed, then who typed those if Killian didn't type and Knox typed everything for him? It would seem to be Knox.
2. Knox also doesn't like Pres. Bush for some reason. She sounds like the busybody secretary who considers herself lord of the castle by virtue of longevity since commanders and staffs come and go. Privy to moments of frustration and bad days on the part of commanders and touchy moments between commander and subordinate, she didn't know how to separate those moments from overall evaluations.
In short, if she had evaluated Patton after Eisenhower dressed him down, SHE never would have given him another command. Eisenhower, however, a great commander who knew when to be good cop and when to be bad cop, put his CONSIDERED opinion in his evaluations of Lt Bush. His considered opinion was that the Pres. was an excellent aviator.
I've rated guys in the army, too, and you don't look at the moments they tick you off. You look at the entire year, at what they produced, at what you've learned that explains them.
Knox apparently got confused between her role -- secretary -- and the command role. SHE was the secretary.
At least, however, she was honest about these memos.
3. That means her selection for who might have been a disgruntled person with "knowledge" should be looked at. SHE probably knows that she either told the person about or showed the person the originals once upon a time.
Isn't that the truth?
I can't wait for Rather to get his comeuppance.
I think he will and soon.
Because the real documents aren't incriminating.
Really, these forgeries aren't either. That's one aspect that held me back from accepting the fake theory until the technical aspects were drilled in my head and I got it (it took just a few hours--not days! LOL). They were designed to be spinnable.
George H W Bush ran for Congress in 1966 two years after he lost to incumbent Senator Ralph Yarborough in 1964. He won and served two terms in Congress before running again for the Senate in 1970. He had hoped to be running again against Yarborough who had become very unpopular among Texas conservatives, but Lloyd Benstsen (whose son was also in the same TANG unit as W) knocked Yarborough off in the DemocRAT primary. Bush lost the race but did pretty well for a Republican in Texas. President Nixon rewarded former Rep. Bush by appointing him ambassador to the UN in 1971 then making him chairmnan of the RNC in 1972.
Not in-of-themselves... but I believe they were supposed to be an "opening salvo" in an all out assault on W's Guard Service. Clearly, the Rats had a campaign ready to go, but they've been too stupid to call it off in light of these developments.
I suspect the people responsible for the forgery figured these documents might not get much scrutiny, but a document which read like "Today, I caught Lt Bush snorting cocaine in the mess hall. When I confronted him, he told me his daddy has connections and there was nothing I could do to stop him. He then spit on my face, and has been AWOL ever since..." would never pass the smell test.
Turns out that these more mild docs didn't either.
No, big Democrat that she is, she couldn't testify to any "real" documents, just that Killian would probably have said the same thing in Wishful Thinking Land, if he had written a memo.
You just KNOW they were toying with making a really outrageous allegation like that and trying to subtle and cool about it but as you say, gave it up in favor of the spinnable and thus more "believable".
If he had handwritten originals, they are far more valuable than the typewritten and would be getting produced right now to shove down the throats of the bloggerworld.
You can bet that CBS would spent not one iota contextualizing them.
I also notice that they don't quote her as saying that they reflect other documents that did exist, but rather that the fake documents reflect the "yak yak", (gossip).
The article says that she also noticed the stylistic and terminological anachronisms in the fake documents. She says that the terminology reflects Army usage rather than Air Force or Air Guard. For instance "billets", which is Army (and I think Navy) terminology, whereas the Air Guard typically speaks of "slots". She also notes the misplacing of the signature block.
Concur.
They ain't to be found, but Kerry Rather they found 'em.
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