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The Grand Scheme: What may be really going on with CBS and the Documents.

Posted on 09/16/2004 8:34:43 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

This is third-hand information that I just received from a source in Washington that I trust, and I am sharing this as a vanity-post only for consideration. Don’t ask me for links or other forms of verification, or who my source is, because I won’t tell you. This is only for your consideration, take it or leave it. Put on your tin-foil hats if you want, but I trust the person who told me the following.

What I was told, is that the public has been a victim of a very elaborate media scheme to trap President Bush. CBS knows that the documents they have been using are fakes, and they are trying to make sure that the public, and more importantly, the White House knows that they are fakes, in order to make the White House comfortable with taking a position denying the accusations contained in the phony documents. Other news organizations are participating in this ruse as well; their mission is to attack CBS regarding the fake documents to provide the White House with a false sense of security.

The reason why CBS is sticking with the story, is that they believe they have actual authentic documents which would back up their accusations against the President, but what they don’t know, is that those documents are also forgeries, but much, much better forgeries, which would likely be believed by the general public when authenticated by dozens of experts.

The media does not believe that the accusation on its own would be enough to bring down the President. But combine those accusations with real (looking) documents, AFTER the President has denied those accusations, and the media (and Democrats) believe they would be able to expose Bush as an arrogant liar.

When you hear Dan Rather goading the White House, suggesting that “the longer the accusations go unanswered the truer they become”, understand that the denial is what they are after. This is why they are not concerned about the original forgeries, they are only to bring Bush to respond to the accusations contained; at which point they nail Bush with their (good) forgeries, catching the White House in a supposed lie, and allowing the rest of the media to go after Bush for lying, drug use, and his service with respect to Vietnam.

So when you see the Washington Post, LA Times, NY Times and others excoriating CBS over the phony memos, understand that they are all just playing their role in encouraging Bush to take a strong stance against the forgeries by denying the accusations contained in them outright. They then have Bush on the record in what they hope is a provable lie.

CBS will claim that the original documents were ‘misplaced’ by their owner, but decided to go with the story because they knew that the real (forgeries) documents existed and would be brought forward if (when) they were found. Clearly, Bush would not have these documents in his own records, but the media would only accuse him of destroying his own copies, and not consider that he never had them to begin with.

The media knows how weak John Kerry is, and they know that at this point it would take a cataclysmic event to bring down George W. Bush. So in the absence of this event, they are creating one out of whole cloth. “Lying, cheating, drug user” would be their message for the rest of the election cycle.

Being smarter than the media figured, the White House is not confirming or denying anything. Except for the first lady’s comments, they have said absolutely nothing about the forged documents at all. They don’t have to. If they cannot get Bush on the record denying the accusations, they have nothing. The media may eventually release their better forgeries as an October surprise, but again without a Bush denial, the accusations would be dismiss as a desperate effort by the elite media to bring down our President.

The current document scandal has the additional benefit for the Democrats of removing John Kerry from the news. His numbers are always better when he is not talking. He cannot win this election, and the media and DNC know that. Their only hope is to bring down Bush, one way or another.

We are all lucky that Bush, Rove and the rest are smarter than that.

The political lesson is to NEVER respond to an attack with anything but facts or exculpatory documents. Never complain, because it makes you look weak. Never deny anything that you cannot prove. John Kerry broke all these rules with the Swifties accusations and is paying for it today. Kerry cannot deny their accusations, so he should have kept his mouth shut, instead of trying to prevent the information from getting out, and later attacking the messenger.

Far fetched? What do you think?


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1 posted on 09/16/2004 8:34:46 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: Pukin Dog

Nurse! Nurse! :))


2 posted on 09/16/2004 8:36:22 AM PDT by sailor4321
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Naah - CBS was busted trying to lie and cheat to smear Bush. It blew up. I will agree however, it is keeping Kerry off the front burner and the fact W was kicking his ass post-convention.


3 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:17 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Pukin Dog
Throwing this into the mix:

Dan Rather from the NY Observer story:

He did not reveal the name of the source, but Mr. Rather said he was a man who had been reluctant to come forth with them because he’d been harassed by political operatives. "Whether one believes it or not, this person believed that he and his family had been harassed and even threatened,"

And from today's NY Times:

In a book published this year, "Bush's War for Re-election" by James Moore, Mr. Burkett is quoted as reporting having received numerous death threats, including telephone messages and a bullet with his name on it that he says he found in his mailbox. More recently, he told people that his son's car had been burned.

4 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:28 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Pukin Dog
A plausible story. We on FR have often excoriated Bush for not defending himself against many accusations over the years, but it could be that he and Karl Rove have been thinking just the way your source described - with the media as an active adversary, deny and the issue becomes a lie; ignore and the issue goes away.

Jackie Onassis gave the famous advice: "Neither confirm, nor deny, nor explain." Seems to be what the Bush campaign is doing.

5 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:04 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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AKA - Bait and switch.


6 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

I've thought about this scenario, but why would CBS risk their ratings on such an elaborate ruse? Occam's razor and all that.


7 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:19 AM PDT by Hazzardgate
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm no longer ready to dismiss these kinds of claims.


8 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:31 AM PDT by zook
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To: Pukin Dog
CBS knows that the documents they have been using are fakes, and they are trying to make sure that the public, and more importantly, the White House knows that they are fakes, in order to make the White House comfortable with taking a position denying the accusations contained in the phony documents.

Won't work because Dubya never opens his mouth needlessly.

There is no need to deny the allegations. The fraudulent nature of the evidence speaks for itself.

Dubya never said a single word about letting the Assault Weapon Ban expire. If he had, the media would have demagogued the issue to death. By ignoring it, Bush eviscerated it as an issue.

There is absolutely no reason for him to change tactics now.

By remaining silent, Dubya keeps Dan Rather twisting slowly in the wind.

What could be better than that?

9 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Allan; Shermy; okie01

Ping.


10 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:44 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Pukin Dog

It doesn't make sense. If CBS attacks the President using obviously fake documents, no one is going to trust any documents they parade in the media regardless of how many "experts" provide authentication.


11 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:50 AM PDT by jess35
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To: Pukin Dog

Intriguing scenario. CBS is out there harping about more memos, however, this would be an incredible gamble to undertake - to wit, why destroy your integrity as a media outlet before delivering the intended "killshot"?

Does not compute.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:51 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: Pukin Dog

Anything is possible. I thought it could be "balloon-floating" issue for possible future forgeries the DNC is going to release to try to clear Kerry. If the public buys the rathergate memos, the DNC may be encouraged to come up with some "never-before-seen" Kerry docs exonerating him against each precise Swiftie allegation.

As of yet, the DNC has not disproven anything the Swiftboat Veterans have to say.

I've also noticed the numbers of veterans attending the Kerry events has dropped dramatically.

There is definitely something up and CBS is part and parcel in it.


13 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:56 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Pukin Dog

I think, therefore I don't believe it.


14 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:03 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: austinaero

Media is no longer reporting the news but rather making it to progress their own agenda. These media tyrants must be removed by any means necessary. Whether they step down voluntarily or forceful removal by rooftop vote by the citizens.


16 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:29 AM PDT by boofus
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To: Pukin Dog
Sounds spot on to me. They 'misunderestimated' the President.

This is like a poker game, and they say Dubya is very good at poker. It's gonna be fun when he calls the dim's bluff.

17 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:29 AM PDT by GaltMeister (This is not my tagline. My family has it. The tagline belongs to my family.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Removing Kerry from the news a few months ago would have been good, but now Kerry needs to be front and center to counter developing negative perceptions. This CBS situation is in no way good for Kerry.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:39 AM PDT by Warlord
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To: Pukin Dog
Far fetched? What do you think?

It's time to invest in bauxite futures.

19 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:42 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: austinaero

short term their ratings are probably better. long term Dan retires and we know how short america's collective memory is. i think the theory fits most the behaviors we have seen. now, can you explain O'Rielly? or does he fit in somewhere too.


20 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:56 AM PDT by nostromo56
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