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Bush Served His Country Without Pay
PoliPundit.com ^ | September 16, 2004 | Oak Leaf

Posted on 09/16/2004 9:17:20 PM PDT by Merry

"Bush served his country without pay"

The following is a post written by a regular reader of this site known to those who visit the comments section as "Oak Leaf". He is an active reservist with over twenty years of service that includes both the National Guard and U.S. Army Reserve. He has extensive experience in personnel programs management and has served on the faculty at a senior service college. Air Guard Service Without Pay

When George W. Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard, a component of the US Air Force, he entered into a six year statutory service obligation. On December 1, 1969 he signed DD Form 1644 "Ready Reserve Service Agreement" which states, "I agree to be a member of the Ready Reserve until 26 May 1974." I first need to explain that the ready reserve is all reserve soldiers that are members of both "drilling units" and to the "individual ready reserve" which is simply a pool of individuals that can be called to active duty. When you review the "officer record brief" of 1LT George W. Bush, you find that on October 1, 1973 he was discharged from the Texas Air National Guard and re-assigned to the Air Reserve Personnel Center (Individual Ready Reserve). He remained assigned to the Air Reserve Personnel Center until he was ultimately discharged the following May. To a civilian this is slightly confusing because the Texas discharge makes it appear that he was completely discharged from the military, but this is not correct. The discharge simply reflects that he is no longer affiliated with the Military Department of the State of Texas. Yes, each state has a "Military Department."

With every enlistment in the reserves an "Acknowledgement of Service Obligations" is part of the enlistment contract. It states, "You will be required to attend all scheduled unit training assemblies unless you are excused by proper authority. If you accrue 9 or more unexcused absences during any continuous 365 day period you may be declared an unsatisfactory participant." Each month a reserve unit is required to complete a "Record of Reserve Training" that lists all assigned members of that unit. Each four hour period on that list represents a training assembly and you will be coded with either P (present), E (excused), U (unexcused) or ET/RST ("other training"). Had 1LT Bush received nine U's he would have been declared an unsatisfactory participant. If you missed two weekends and one morning you would have 9 U's. Because this never occurred, it means that he was either granted E's as an excused absence or performed equivalent training (ET). That alone verifies he met his obligation

The old media remains extremely focused on the performance of duties that meets that old saying, "one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer." That saying falls in line with "my recruiter lied to me." Civilians would be astonished to discover that many reservists perform duties without pay. In reviewing my own records, 13% of my reserve man days in my first six years were without pay and surprisingly while a college student, 21% of my reserve man days were performed without pay. A search of the web led me to AF Form 1288 (front/back) in which 1LT Bush requests duty in Alabama on May 24, 1972. Block 17 shows that the request is "no pay, training category G." In the approval section, it is clearly disclosed that this is "pay group none." Why is this important? Regardless, of the ultimate unit he ended up training with, it shows that 1LT Bush was willing to train without pay. The old media remains focused on pay records!! In regards to pay records, USA Today states, "They show he was paid for 82 days in 1972 and 1973, but show no service for five months between April and October 1972." Pay records would show no service during this time period because he was not paid! 1LT Bush served his country without pay. That is why there is no pay record.

1LT Bush can be "faulted" for one thing and that is keeping his retirement points correct. I need to point out that, "It is the soldier's responsibility to insure that his or her retirement points are correct."

1LT Bush was "responsible" for getting those retirement points posted to his record. I would assume that the records were sent forward and there was never any follow up because he chose not to serve 20 years. Because he earned at least 50 points for each year of service meeting the requirement of a satisfactory year there was just no incentive to pursue further record updating. In my own reserve career, I am still trying to correct unpaid duty records that go back 20 years. I have three comments on Oak Leaf's post. First, I want to thank him for taking the time to review these documents and to write such a detailed, yet clear and easy to follow analysis. Second, I think one reason the media has done such a pathetic job covering these matters is because they do not have enough people within their ranks with any military experience. Third, this point that Oak Leaf makes illustrates one more stark contrast between President Bush and Senator Kerry. Bush evidently worked without pay, and probably, due to inadequate follow-up on the paperwork, without any recognition for that time. John Kerry went to ridiculous lengths to document every bruise and scratch he got in Vietnam, and to make sure every activity he was engaged in was not only written up for awards, but was even recreated and memorialized on film. Isn't that just everything voters need to know about the character of these two men in a nutshell?


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Leave it to a blogger, who is not in his jammies, but is serving his country in Afghanistan, to do the job of journalists. My husband keeps saying that the MSM doesn't even try to understand how the army works. This explains the lack of pay receipts.
1 posted on 09/16/2004 9:17:20 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Merry

Thanks to you & Oak Leaf.


2 posted on 09/16/2004 9:24:15 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Merry

The mass media does not care to understand reserve drill status, because the reserve drill structure can not be summed up in a ten second sound bite.

For example, try explaining two multiple drills without pay for points and total points for membership.


3 posted on 09/16/2004 9:30:46 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (An ANG Airmen First Class was promoted more times than LIEutenant junior grade John F'n Kerry.)
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To: Merry

bump


4 posted on 09/16/2004 9:31:13 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: Merry; Howlin; ambrose; Mo1; kcvl; Old Sarge

I told my daughter tonight I had seen "without pay" in one of Bush's documents but what do I know?...

Excellent..It has long been obvious that reporters don't have a clue about the military...


5 posted on 09/16/2004 9:31:47 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
For example, try explaining two multiple drills without pay for points and total points for membership.

HUH?

6 posted on 09/16/2004 9:41:01 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Merry; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; backhoe; MizSterious; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; ...

Merry, thanks for taking the time to post this.

It sure does explain a lot.


7 posted on 09/16/2004 9:42:46 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Merry

....great post, Thanks!...


8 posted on 09/16/2004 9:45:02 PM PDT by inconspicuous
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To: Merry; 06isweak; 0scill8r; 100American; 100%FEDUP; 101st-Eagle; 101stSignal; 101viking; 10mm; ...

Excellent. Thanks! And a ping to the other troops.... :)


9 posted on 09/16/2004 9:45:34 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping! This needs to be explained to the idiots in the MSM,as well as to the talking heads on radio and cable T.V.!


10 posted on 09/16/2004 9:48:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Merry

bump


11 posted on 09/16/2004 9:51:19 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Howlin

Thanks for pinging me to this.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 9:52:31 PM PDT by Bullish (Tick... Tick...Tick...Tick...)
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To: Merry
1LT Bush served his country without pay. That is why there is no pay record.

My hero


13 posted on 09/16/2004 9:54:44 PM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Where I come from, deeds mean more than words. - Zell Miller)
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To: MistyCA

Thank you Misty for the ping!


14 posted on 09/16/2004 9:56:03 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Merry
Thanks for posting this .....

but is serving his country in Afghanistan,

That is just amazing, and reporters that are not serving in Afghanistan are doing what kind of research?......

15 posted on 09/16/2004 9:56:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Howlin; MistyCA; Merry

Thank you both for the pings.

I wish the MSM would at least attempt to learn about the
military. Jim Angle and Major Garrett are two of the few
I've seen attempt to do so.

Good post, Merry.
Thanks!


16 posted on 09/16/2004 9:56:32 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud member of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Merry

bump


17 posted on 09/16/2004 9:56:45 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: MistyCA

Thanks Misty. Guess us Ho Chi Minh, pajama wearing, lamp shade on our heads idiots don't know what we're doing! /sarcasm


18 posted on 09/16/2004 9:56:51 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: Howlin
1LT Bush served his country without pay. That is why there is no pay record.

The liberals sure ain't going like this at all


19 posted on 09/16/2004 9:57:02 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: MistyCA

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 09/16/2004 9:58:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ride the whirlwind
My hero

Mine, too. ;o)


21 posted on 09/16/2004 9:58:53 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud member of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: ride the whirlwind

Hubba Hubba. W is a hottie in that flight suit!


22 posted on 09/16/2004 9:59:28 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: dixiechick2000
I wish the MSM would at least attempt to learn about the military.

Ummm .. doesn't the MSM have Military experts on their shows all the time? .. One would think they would ask one of those guys

23 posted on 09/16/2004 9:59:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: dixiechick2000

Sigh.


24 posted on 09/16/2004 9:59:48 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: Grampa Dave; Dog; SunkenCiv; Libertarianize the GOP; McGavin999; Brad's Gramma; onyx

More mysteries explained!

I think....


25 posted on 09/16/2004 10:00:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Mo1

"Ummm .. doesn't the MSM have Military experts on their shows all the time? .. One would think they would ask one of those guys"


You WOULD think so, wouldn't you? ;o)


26 posted on 09/16/2004 10:01:39 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud member of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Merry; ActiveDutyUSMC; dakine; bkwells; chookter; Hacksaw434; thumperusn; Hostel; The Sailor; ...

Ammo for the good guys MUST READ PING!!!


27 posted on 09/16/2004 10:01:56 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: MistyCA

Thanks.

Why am I amused that such a direct, simple explanation of service without pay escaped so many in the MSM?

Gosh, ya think? LOL


28 posted on 09/16/2004 10:02:01 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: demnomo

"Sigh."


Oh, yeah...
My sentiments, exactly.


29 posted on 09/16/2004 10:02:46 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud member of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Mo1
Here's a link

polipundit.com

30 posted on 09/16/2004 10:02:47 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Merry

Great post. Thanks.


31 posted on 09/16/2004 10:03:27 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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To: Merry

BTTT


32 posted on 09/16/2004 10:03:43 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping. That boy's folks sure raised him right!


33 posted on 09/16/2004 10:03:48 PM PDT by pollyshy (Proud Right Wing Lunatic Bastionnaire)
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To: farmfriend; FairOpinion; John Jorsett

ping.


34 posted on 09/16/2004 10:04:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

ROTFL... and lets not forget people like my wife who was ctive Duty Navy, IRR, Naval Reserve, Active Duty Army, and Army Reserve...

Imagine trying to keep her records straight if she were running for office?


35 posted on 09/16/2004 10:04:39 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping. That boy's folks sure raised him right!


36 posted on 09/16/2004 10:04:39 PM PDT by pollyshy (Proud Right Wing Lunatic Bastionnaire)
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To: Merry
Leave it to a blogger, who is not in his jammies, but is serving his country in Afghanistan, to do the job of journalists. My husband keeps saying that the MSM doesn't even try to understand how the army works.

If you husband is serving or served, give him my thanks.

All these threads and blogger entries have given me more of an education in the different branches than I (who never served) ever thought I'd have.

Jonah Goldberg of NR's The Corner put up an email from a USAF Captain, because of this:



LtCol from NORAD on Fox.

There are comments at the Castle Argghhh! blog.

Part of the Captain's email follows:

The sad part is that no one around him, from the producers, cameramen, et al. was savvy enough on the military to catch the problem prior to airtime. I’m not exonerating the colonel, but anyone who has served would (almost instinctively) have noticed the upside-down insignia. If someone did notice and chose to allow an officer of the United States to appear in that manner, the only word I could find for that choice is “reprehensible”. Mind you, I’m not ascribing malice toward the United States military to anyone, but I do realize it has been known to exist in some circles of the Fourth Estate.

I’d feel a bit better if the so-called “military correspondents” could learn the difference between self-propelled artillery and tanks (which have significantly different military utility), would know the rank structure well enough to address sergeants-major as “Sergeant Major” rather than “Sergeant” (which the newest of recruits understands by Day 2 of basic training, along with all the other forms of address from “Private” to “Mr. President”), and that the rifles fired at a military funeral are not a “21-gun salute”, but are from an older tradition of firing three volleys over a grave to signify the conclusion of a battlefield truce to succor the wounded and bury the dead. The press tries to hire science reporters with some science background to help explain stories to the non-scientist public, but when it comes to covering those of us sworn to defend the nation, the media organizations send reporters who couldn’t readily identify an A-10 and an F-15 if they were standing next to them. Nor do those reporters seem to care to research the issues beforehand. After all, they could learn most of what they wanted to know just by going online and reading the fact sheets from the service Web pages. I guess immersing themselves in a military history course or interviewing content, professional soldiers to gain background information just isn’t as satisfying as spending a (well-publicized after the fact) weekend sleeping on the streets to “truly understand the homeless question”.
37 posted on 09/16/2004 10:04:54 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"Ammo for the good guys MUST READ PING!!!"

Absolutely!

But, it's quickly turning into a chick thread! ;o)

38 posted on 09/16/2004 10:05:00 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud member of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: dixiechick2000
You WOULD think so, wouldn't you? ;o)

*L* ... I guess that's why the MSM has a problem with us Pajama People .. We Think

39 posted on 09/16/2004 10:05:08 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: demnomo

Bump.


40 posted on 09/16/2004 10:05:18 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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To: Merry

The nastiest of the leftists are so antimilitary/antidefense that they're usually hopeless on any subject that relates to the military. They "see a taint where they ain't none." Thanks for an informative post.


41 posted on 09/16/2004 10:05:44 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Merry

bttt


42 posted on 09/16/2004 10:06:10 PM PDT by timestax
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To: MEG33
Excellent..It has long been obvious that reporters don't have a clue about the military...

Few liberals do...

43 posted on 09/16/2004 10:07:36 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Mo1

"I guess that's why the MSM has a problem with us Pajama People .. We Think"


LOL! We surely do, and I think it makes them constipated.
At least, that's MY take on it. ;o)


44 posted on 09/16/2004 10:07:52 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud member of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Howlin
HUH?

A member may earn either a single drill or a multiple drill while in IDT drill status, but only one drill per day while serving in AD or ADT status...

45 posted on 09/16/2004 10:08:24 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (An ANG Airmen First Class was promoted more times than LIEutenant junior grade John F'n Kerry.)
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To: Merry

Bump and a bookmark for the end of the stupid issue of national guard. I'm forwarding it to the White House press office (and I hope others do too) so that they can finally answer the questions (and pass out printouts) so that the MSM can get back to concentrating on Dan Rather presenting known bogus memos to backup a non-story.


46 posted on 09/16/2004 10:10:02 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: dixiechick2000

You just reminded me that someone ought to do a compare and contrast thread. Bush certainly looked All American, didn't he?. Contrast that to the war protester Kerry.


47 posted on 09/16/2004 10:10:05 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Speak English, man!


48 posted on 09/16/2004 10:10:20 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
ROTFL... and lets not forget people like my wife who was ctive Duty Navy, IRR, Naval Reserve, Active Duty Army, and Army Reserve...

Roger that!

49 posted on 09/16/2004 10:10:51 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (An ANG Airmen First Class was promoted more times than LIEutenant junior grade John F'n Kerry.)
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To: Mo1
The liberals sure ain't going like this at all

They won't even remotely understand it ... or even try. After all, it deals with the military. They'll just drink their kool aid and follow the talking points.

50 posted on 09/16/2004 10:11:37 PM PDT by Boomer Geezer (God Bless ALL of our military and Vets -- past and present!)
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