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Federal agents surround ranch in Douglas, Arizona(VIDEO!)
KVOA-TV-Tucson/AP ^ | September 16, 2004 at 5:00PM MST | KVOA-TV-Tucson/AP

Posted on 09/16/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by Conservative Firster

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An FBI agent shot an acquaintance of a border watch group member while trying to serve an arrest warrant, FBI officials said Thursday.

The shooting happened about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday in a grocery store parking lot in Douglas along the southeastern Arizona border with Mexico.

According to the FBI, the agent was trying to serve an arrest warrant on Casey Nethercott of Douglas. Nethercott is a known member of Ranch Rescue, a group that works to protect private property along the southern U.S. border.

Ranch Rescue and several other unauthorized groups have been patrolling along the border looking for illegal immigrants, raising concerns among migrants rights groups about potential abuses.

At the time, Nethercott was with 22-year-old Kalen Riddle, also of Douglas.

Charlene Thornton, special agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said that "actions taken by Nethercott and Riddle led one of the FBI agents to fire his weapon."

The FBI would not elaborate and said it won't release the name of the agent who fired the shot, in keeping with FBI policy.

Riddle was airlifted to a Tucson hospital, but FBI officials did not know his condition.

Nethercott was arrested Wednesday and is in federal custody. An FBI spokeswoman confirmed agents searched Nethercott's Douglas ranch on Thursday afternoon.

The warrant the FBI was trying to serve alleges that Nethercott threatened Border Patrol agents.

According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there.

Agents said the Ranch Rescue members were heavily armed and had night vision equipment.

After Border Patrol agents yelled for Nethercott to show his hands, the affidavit says Nethercott refused, and responded:

"I'm going to take care of this myself, we're going to have a shootout."

The affidavit does not say how the standoff ended.

There was no listing for Riddle in Douglas. A phone message left Thursday at a residence listed for Nethercott was not returned.

Nethercott, 37, has a criminal record. He was convicted of assault with a firearm in California and was on parole when he joined Ranch Rescue.

In June, he was also found guilty by a Texas jury of felony firearm possession. The jury was deadlocked on a second charge that accused Nethercott of pistol-whipping an illegal immigrant near a Texas ranch.

Douglas rancher Roger Barnett, who is not part of Ranch Rescue, supports the measures Nethercott took to stop illegal immigration.

He compared the shooting of Riddle to Branch Davidians, who fought federal agents in Waco, Texas.

"Citizens have to get out and protect themselves," Barnett said. "And this is what it leads to."


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: aliens; fbi; immigrantlist; immigration; nethercott; ranchrescue
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To: Conservative Firster

Depends on what "heavily armed" means. If they're a wacko militia group then I have no sympathy, however if they're merely a group of ranchers out to protect their own private property from illegals then more power to them. When the government opens the borders and gives illegals more rights than citizens, then it's up to the people to protect their own.


21 posted on 09/16/2004 10:58:08 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Hank Rearden
" So why has there been zero pressure on Bush to shape up? "Praying" for him to reform after he's reelected is far too late. He needs to be scared of losing his job now."

Thank you. I was beginning to think that I was the only one still saying it.

22 posted on 09/16/2004 11:01:51 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: BnBlFlag; B4Ranch; Hank Rearden
We need to mount an intense campaign to put pressure on Bush to do somthing about the border.

The problem with this is that both major political parties WANT illegals streaming into our country.

The FTAA has 27 nations signed up that will create an 'E.U.' of the Western Hemisphere. Most of those countries speak Spanish.

What are the chances that a hemispheric government will speak English?

The big picture says they are consciously 'Hispanicizing' North America to ease harmonizing a future governmental structure.

23 posted on 09/16/2004 11:05:10 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: mtbopfuyn

Here is the link
http://www.ranchrescue.com/index.htm


24 posted on 09/16/2004 11:06:28 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy
"Ditto, hold your nose and vote for Bush... unless it gets too bad on the immigration front."

I remember that we held our noses 4 years ago. The pubbies told us to give him a gop House and Senate and we'd get what we wanted. We held up our end of the deal. This year, I'm not holding my nose.

25 posted on 09/16/2004 11:10:44 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: FITZ
Sometimes I wonder if the DEA undercover guys, posing as runners, aren't working for FBI undercover guys, posing as financiers who work for NSA guys posing as enforcers who work for CIA guys posing as whatever: and nobody knows who anybody else is. Which is why warrants for narco-terrorists aren't going anywhere: at every hearing, there's a call from Washington, "Yer Honor, he's one of ours."

Shoot, mebbe the US is running the cartels, and they don't know it. (compartmentalization n' such.)

Humor...sort of.

26 posted on 09/16/2004 11:12:35 PM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: Conservative Firster

Sure looks like a wacko militia to me.

With all the flags and patriotic stuff and whatnot.

"wacko militia" was a concept and a term coined during the Clintoon's administration, no?

Time to undo the programming people...


27 posted on 09/16/2004 11:14:04 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (I've had all I can stands.....and I can't stands no more.)
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To: Hank Rearden
For all your reasons I too will hold my nose while voting. Sad that he drifted into the haze fog of the "middle ground." Oh well we can only hope his political roots on the right will pull him back when/if he gets reelected.
28 posted on 09/16/2004 11:16:48 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: dasboot

Nethercott is a convicted felon and was arrested earlier for being in possession of a firearm, I show nothing on Riddle. Without going into detail, there is more to this story than what is in this article.


29 posted on 09/16/2004 11:22:04 PM PDT by eastforker (Maybe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure what I said is what I meant_John Kerry)
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To: Conservative Firster
According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there.

What reason and/or authority would the Border Patrol have to pull over an American citizen. Was he illegally crossing the border?

It sounds like the Border Patrol was acting as local cops.

30 posted on 09/16/2004 11:22:50 PM PDT by niki
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To: Jack Black

What's with the Mayor in the video?

"Maybe there will be a positive development and we can move 'these people' out of here. They've confronted the Mexican Army. They are real confrontational."

Well maybe if our @$%$&^#% law enforcement officials did their jobs, American citizens wouldn't have to go out and do the job themselves.


31 posted on 09/16/2004 11:23:19 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: dasboot
Humor...sort of.

According to our own State Department, $2.66 billion a year gets spent on bribes to assist human smuggling on the Mexican border.

Source.

32 posted on 09/16/2004 11:28:35 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Conservative Firster

This isn't agood idea right now... AT ALL!!


33 posted on 09/16/2004 11:30:10 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Conservative Firster

Is this Bush's doing??


34 posted on 09/16/2004 11:30:59 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Conservative Firster
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35 posted on 09/16/2004 11:31:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: niki
They may not have known, at the time of the pursuit, who he was. As long as they had a reasonable suspicion that he was involved in activity which it is the BP's duty to investigate, and they were within jurisdiction, they are OK.

I imagine an unknown M/V in a border area, furtively operated, would arouse suspicion....mules and jumpers are not unlikely to be operating stolen M/V's, yes? If he had stopped, he might have been all set; but he prolly had a snootfull, and thought they were the local constables, or he had some firearms in the car and didn't want a hassle...understandable: you never know who's behind the badge.

36 posted on 09/16/2004 11:32:38 PM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: Conservative Firster
So typical of the FBI/F Troop, that they:

**won't release information about the patient's condition;

**won't release the name of the shooter;

**will release negative information about the person they shot.

37 posted on 09/16/2004 11:34:04 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: All

Pictures of illegal immigration invasion on Roger Barnett's ranch, Arizona

http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_pictures/invasion_barnett.html


38 posted on 09/16/2004 11:35:53 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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To: Conservative Firster

The problem with cases like this, is that the FBI has so discredited themselves, that it is nearly impossible to believe a word they say.

At Waco they stated, "We never fired a shot after we took over from the BATF." The only way that would be true is if they brought in special forces to fire the automatic weapons that were fired into the rear of the farmhouse as it went up in flames.

Once again they stated that there were no guns on the helicopters. Once they were revealed to be lying about that, they admitted that there were guns, but not mounted guns.

The BATF obtained the use of military helicopters and tanks by lying about there being drugs at the Waco farmhouse.

It was stated that no grenades were used at the farmhouse. It was also stated that the FBI did not start the fire that burned the building down. The problem is, two shock grenades were found in the areas where the fires started. Those grenades are known to cause fires.

The FBI testified that shock grenades are not lethal, before Congress. That was shown to be a lie as well.

I grew up reading stories about the FBI, idolizing their members as much as I did baseball players. I had a natural desire to respect them, because my father 1500 miles away was a law enforcement officer. It took a lot to get me to change my mind. Ruby Ridge, TWA 800 and Waco did it for me. I will never trust them again.

Reagan used to say trust but verify. In the case of the FBI, I now say, don't trust, and verify everything. I rather be alive than dead right.


39 posted on 09/16/2004 11:47:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: dasboot
They may not have known, at the time of the pursuit, who he was. As long as they had a reasonable suspicion that he was involved in activity which it is the BP's duty to investigate, and they were within jurisdiction, they are OK.

I think it is a pretty safe bet, the BP knew who the guy was. They aren't his biggest fan.

By the limit account given, it seems they knew who he was.

It will be interesting to hear the details.

40 posted on 09/16/2004 11:49:30 PM PDT by niki
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