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HURRICANE IVAN 9/18 THREAD...Recovery in Florida and Alabama...flooding Virginia to Pennsylvania
National Weather Service ^ | 18 September 2004

Posted on 09/17/2004 9:03:34 PM PDT by dufekin



TOPICS: Announcements; US: Alabama; US: Connecticut; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Kentucky; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: Tennessee; US: Vermont; US: Virginia; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricaneivan; ivan
Post weather bulletins, tornado reports, rainfall amounts, broken weather records, and other news.

We pray for the welfare of all in the path. Also please post personal experience in real time and recovery reports from Pensacola and the general vicinity (within a few hundred miles).

River flooding in much of the already waterlogged East.

Major flooding is expected in the Appalachian region. Yesterday Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania shattered the all-time rainfall record set by Hurricane Francis eight days ago.

This month now ties the record for the wettest September in Huntington, West Virginia--with 13 days to go.

A couple tornadoes hit the Dulles Airport in northern Virginia, suburban Washington, DC.

And Jeanne and Karl are on the way!

1 posted on 09/17/2004 9:03:35 PM PDT by dufekin
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To: dufekin

Prayers for all in harm's way. Does anyone know how the Delaware River is doing?


2 posted on 09/17/2004 9:10:51 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Delaware River appears safe south of the NY/PA border from reports. Most of the heaviest rainfall has fallen further west, across the high terrain of the Appalachians and west of the range.


3 posted on 09/17/2004 9:19:59 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

I'm not too far from the Delaware in the Poconos and we've had some rain, but no heavy downpours as yet.


4 posted on 09/17/2004 9:26:03 PM PDT by Tamzee (Ted Koppel --- "....the media will need a stepstool to rise to the level of used car salesmen.")
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To: dufekin; Tamsey

Thanks for the news. I grew up on the Delaware and still have old friends and family there.


5 posted on 09/17/2004 9:32:26 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: dufekin

Tropical Depression Ivan Advisory Number 60


Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on September 17, 2004


...Tropical Depression Ivan is crossing the Blue Ridge as it
starts taking a more eastward track...vast swath of heavy rain and
thunderstorms stretch from the central Appalachians to northern
New England.
Flood warnings are up for western and central
Pennsylvania...western Maryland...and portions of northern
Virginia.
Flood watches are in effect for southern New York state...
Pennsylvania...New Jersey...Delaware...southern
Connecticut...Virginia...West Virginia...southeastern Ohio...and
extreme western North Carolina.
A Tornado Watch is in effect for eastern Virginia...central
Maryland...south central Pennsylvania...and extreme northeastern
North Carolina until 12 midnight EDT.
The 11 PM EDT...03z...the center of Tropical Depression Ivan was
located near 37.5 north latitude and 79.4 west longitude... or
near Lynchburg...Virginia. Maximum sustained winds are near 20 mph
with some higher gusts. Minimum central pressure is 1000 mb or
29.53 inches. Over the past six hours...Ivan has been moving in an
east-northeasterly direction at approximately 20 mph. Overnight
Ivan is expected to move eastward toward southeastern Virginia by
Saturday morning. On Saturday Ivan is expected to take a turn to
the southeast...moving to near Cape Hatteras by Saturday evening
while it continues to weaken.
Selected storm 24 hour rainfall amounts in inches through 8 PM
EDT.
Location 24 hour total
Tennessee...
Crossville 4.52
Chattanooga 4.42
Bristol 3.09
Kentucky...
Princess 5.03
Oldtown 4.72
Olympia Springs 4.68
Cannonsburg 3.68
Beechburg 3.60
Ohio...
Greenfield 5.99
Sharon 5.40
Coolville 5.28
Trimble 5.22
Vinton 4.79
New Athens 4.39
Lewisville 3.95
West Virginia...
Ellamore 12.40
adolf 9.90
Valley Head 8.90
Williamson 5.95
Belington 5.20
lomi 2.28
Virginia...
Danville 1.83
Lynchburg 1.36
North Carolina...
Bear Creek 9.33
Jonas Ridge 8.55
Highlands 7.52
conneste fall 7.11
Argura 6.37
hawk 6.24
Marshall 4.56
Hendersonville 4.31
Pennsylvania...
Allegheny co Airport 5.25
Pittsburgh 5.02
Hampton 3.95
Clearfield 3.78
DuBois 3.54
East Franklin 3.00
Delmont 2.56
Donegal 2.56
Seneca/Oil City 2.32
Sabula 2.04
Cambridge 1.83
New York...
Apalachin 2.92
Binghamton 2.39
Howard 2.11
Prattsburg 1.32
Expect additional rainfall amounts of 2-4 inches with isolated
heavier amounts through Saturday morning along the Appalachian
Mountains especially throughout the Allegheny region.
Repeating the 11 PM EDT...03z...position...Tropical Depression
Ivan is 37.5 north latitude and 79.4 west longitude. Minimum
central pressure is 1000 mb or 29.53 inches.
The next advisory on Tropical Depression Ivan will be issued by
the Hydrometeorological Prediction Center at 5 am EDT. Refer to
statements issued by local weather offices for further information
concerning this storm.
Ziegenfelder
$$


6 posted on 09/17/2004 9:38:15 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: TheLion

Have any news on Greenville, SC?


7 posted on 09/17/2004 9:46:01 PM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Pure Country

Lots of rain and Duke power reported 7,000 without power. Nothing big in the news.


8 posted on 09/17/2004 10:04:53 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Stage 2 flood watch in effect in Port Jervis and Matamoras PA.
Matamoras is currently evacuating.
Route 209 is closed from Cuddebackville into Port Jervis along the Neversink and near the Delaware.
(Rio Dam must have had to valve off some water.)


9 posted on 09/18/2004 9:32:10 AM PDT by Darksheare (Freedom is worth ALL of our lives if it frees even ONE person.)
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To: dufekin; Tamsey

Post 9
As per scanner alert

All of the volunteer fire departments are manned in building.
Matamoras is in evacuation, Port Jervis is in Voluntary evacuation.
The Delaware was already elevated recently.
If they open the Rio dam upriver form Port Jervis, it raises the water level by an appreciable amount.
I live 11 miles from Port Jervis, used to live there.
My mother in law is in Matamoras.


10 posted on 09/18/2004 9:35:25 AM PDT by Darksheare (Freedom is worth ALL of our lives if it frees even ONE person.)
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To: dufekin

Okay- here's my Ivan story.
Live in New Orleans- ' disaster waiting to happen'. Don't believe in evacuating, but the local leadership advised everyone to get out of town Wednesday morning. It looked like Ivan was aimed right for the mouth of the river.
So- with an 85 year old, infirm, father and a three year old, we decide to take some friends up on an offer of shelter. They come to pick us up in a big van.
At 3pm Wednesday, we are on the road with at least half of the N.O. area.
It took us until 9PM to reach the eastern limits of the city- a normally 15 minute drive. Another 3 hours to cross a 12 mile bridge to Slidell.
We were headed to north west Mobile county. Got there at 4am. 13 hour trip.
Thursday we realized that Ivan was headed due north to Mobile, so we got used to the idea that we had #1- left New Orleans for nothing, and #2- ended up right in the storm's path.
No worries tho. New, hurricane ready house in hilly country, well boarded up. By 1am the wind was impressive. We had satellite TV and power till 2am. Then the radio said that Ivan had taken a 20 mile jog east, and we wouldn't get the eye.
Honestly- I wasn't worried. All storms have wind to worry about, but it was nice to be in one where we weren't in constant fear of levees breaking and water rising.
Except near the coast, the damage I saw was minimal. NO homes damaged in northern Mobile that I could see. Few trees down, some fences, a pole or two leaning.
The wind where I was reportedly reached 100mph. I"ve seen much worse in Betsy.
Eastern Alabama coast is another story, and the Florida panhandle. But the coastal point of impact is always the worst damage area.
The real misery of Ivan was afterward. NO power, no phone, for a while no water. At 90 degrees that is torture.
After two days, when we came home to an undamaged home, thinking of our friends who are suffering, for perhaps two weeks, without power.
Please pray for them all.


11 posted on 09/18/2004 9:59:31 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: Darksheare

We live in the center of Pike County, PA - across the Delaware River from you. My husband is a Township Supervisor here. Many of our local roads are under water. My husband says he has never seen the Shohola Creek this high - - including back in 55. One house has collapsed as has a part of route 739. The rain has finally stopped here.


12 posted on 09/18/2004 10:33:06 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: finnsheep

Hopefully they don't open Rio Dam any further.
It may be a tiny one compared to the big project dams out west, but it does noticably raise the water level in the river.
The river buffer by Len N Joe's pizza place is underwater.
Guy I know living on the end of the road there is watching the river from his back porch.


13 posted on 09/18/2004 10:40:57 AM PDT by Darksheare (Freedom is worth ALL of our lives if it frees even ONE person.)
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To: finnsheep

Scanner just said water rescue at the K-Mart parking lot.
"Need dive team"
What the heck?
K-mart is up a little hill a ways, teh water level is up that far?
Yikes!


14 posted on 09/18/2004 10:42:43 AM PDT by Darksheare (Freedom is worth ALL of our lives if it frees even ONE person.)
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To: finnsheep

Scanner intercepts:

Delaware river raging, has not crested yet.
Trees, debris, and houses are going down the river 1340hours.

Mandatory evacuation in Port Jervis
Riverside and west end, tri-state and lower fourth ward as of 1404 hours.

State of emergency declared in Port Jervis 1410hours
Port Jervis High School is open for shelter.


15 posted on 09/18/2004 11:32:07 AM PDT by Darksheare (Freedom is worth ALL of our lives if it frees even ONE person.)
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To: dufekin

After Ivan it's the turn of Jeanne : 5.9+ earthquake under the hurricane
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211143/posts


16 posted on 09/19/2004 3:47:22 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: ClearBlueSky

You lucked out. If Ivan had turned a few degrees less to the North while off of Yucatan, it would have indeed struck somewhere just west of Southwest Pass. NO would have had the storm surge that they had at Pensacola hit Ponchartrain. That levee, according to the Corps of Engineers site, is marginal for a Cat 3 and probably no good for a Cat 4. It is only a matter of time for NO - "they always turn" is a complete fiction. Unless someone gets really serious about building a truly storm worthy levee system around the entire Metro, and, surge control gates on the major Mississipi distributaries and other nearby passes, one of these days there will be a surge that will top the levees. I have witnessed this on a much smaller scale, and can easily imagine what might happen.


17 posted on 09/20/2004 5:09:41 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

You hit my pet peeve- and that of half of New Orleans.
We pay MILLIONS to the Levee Board to protect the city, only to hear that the levees are useless when needed. They might, in fact, hurt more than help! So why bother, really?
Still- with doom facing us every year the powers that be INSIST that we need more business to relocate here, approve more building in a 'doomed' area, and in fact want another domed stadium( which will also be flooded!)
And they wonder why people are leaving the city in droves and no industry wants to relocate here?
What's the point? Why not just evacuate the city at the beginning of each hurricane season and be done with it.
And I STILL want someone to explain to me how we are in MORE danger with levees and technology than my ancestors were in the 1800's here. My father didn't see 30 feet of water in the 20's, nor did I when Betsy hit the city in '69.

If they really believe New Orleans is doomed, why not start doing some of the things you suggested? Like damming up Lake Borgne to stop the surge from getting into Pontchatrain?
That or stop all building here and suggest people only treat it as vacation property.


18 posted on 09/20/2004 7:10:40 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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