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1 posted on 09/18/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by jhouston
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It's nice to an out of control commie scoundrel like Mary Mapes get her come uppance. Hopefully she'll get the boot.


79 posted on 09/18/2004 8:30:25 PM PDT by dennisw (There)
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"So much of this debate has focused on the documents, and no one has really challenged the story. It's been frustrating to us to see all this reduced to a debate over little 'th's."

AAARRRGGGHH (it's talk like a pirate weekend)

There is NO story! A Congressman's son gets preferential treatment in the military??? That's dog bites man. A story would be if a Congressman's son didn't get preferential treatment.

That one politician got another politician to give a good recommendation for his son? That's a news story? The story would be if he got a death row inmate to recommend him.

That a man who has stopped flying doesn't take a flight physical? The story would be if he did take one.

No wonder the White House didn't go ape sh!t over the memos. There wasn't anything in them that was negative. No story accept to someone blinded by hatred for President Bush.

Shiver me timbers, Dan Rather is a bilge sucking barnacle.

80 posted on 09/18/2004 8:31:36 PM PDT by bayourod (Kerry would avenge the murder of my family by terrorists. Bush would prevent the murders.)
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What a bizarre story. Full of exquisite details and full of holes you could drive a SUV through.

The story closes with CBS maintaining that noone has questioned the story, just the documents. The Post fails to mention Staudt and the Killian family's denying the truth of the story.

Lots of details on Burkett, but no mention that he was in the Army Guard, just that he was in the "Guard." An essential point considering that one of the problems with the memos is their usage of Army lingo in some places.

There are also a few questions not raised in this article. Will CBS reveal their source for the documents if CBS recognizes they are fraudulent? Will anyone at CBS be held accountable? Will anyone at CBS be fired? Was there any contact between CBS and high ranking Kerry campaign or DNC officials? Did CBS pay for the documents? Why do the documents given to the analysts have a Abilene, Texas Kinko's timestamp on them when Rather and Mapes met with the source? If Rather and Mapes met with the source, how come Rather said (another point not in the article) that CBS only had copies of the documents?

Finally, there is no mention of the long awaited statement by Andrew Heyward and why it took so long to release, nor of CBS' own CYA memo and in-house Rather interview sent to their affiliates.

87 posted on 09/18/2004 8:38:01 PM PDT by kristinn
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At that point, said "60 Minutes" executive Josh Howard, "we completely abandoned the process of authenticating the documents. Obviously, looking back on it, that was a mistake. We stopped questioning ourselves. I suppose you could say we let our guard down."

Ummm .. are they trying to tell us that CBS never authenticating before the day they aired the story???

Rather and his producer met the source at an out-of-the-way location.

Oh really .. So Dan does know where they came from

On Friday, Sept. 3, the day after the convention ended, Mapes hit pay dirt. She told Howard her source had given her the documents

That's funny .. wasn't it reported they had the documents for 6 weeks??

for Josh Howard, he embraces the same logic: "So much of this debate has focused on the documents, and no one has really challenged the story. It's been frustrating to us to see all this reduced to a debate over little 'th's."

I'm sorry ... but he is a Numb Nut .. what part of Forged Documents does this nit wit not understand??

98 posted on 09/18/2004 8:48:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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CBS News: Rush to Mis-Judgment


101 posted on 09/18/2004 8:49:19 PM PDT by reg45
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Does anyone else think that this is a pretty poor excuse for investigative journalists to put out.

I didn't see anything original in the entire story. When they mentioned that Barnes/Rather had known each other for 30 years, they conveniently left out that it was not mentioned during the 60 Minutes interview. Didn't identify Matley as the uncertified document examiner.

Shoddy, shoddy. Hang your head, Howie and Mikey!
108 posted on 09/18/2004 8:57:39 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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Roberts: How am I supposed to verify something that came from a dead man in three hours?

WE don't know. But we do know the result of not doing so. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

115 posted on 09/18/2004 9:06:51 PM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan; 'fess up.)
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I have read this story before.

It was called "Moby Dick."

The Dan Rather character was called Ahab and the Bush family was called "the great white whale."

I seem to remember Ahab came to a bad end.


120 posted on 09/18/2004 9:10:42 PM PDT by Inyokern
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The 4th document examiner James J. Pierce is not happy with CBS. c.f. link...


in http://politicalities.typepad.com/ September 15, 2004 entry...
from link...

Pierce is quoted as still reviewing the documents on 9/16, more than one week after the airing. Was Peirce even consulted for his opinion prior to the airing, opposite to what CBS maintains?
135 posted on 09/18/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by igoramus987
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Tests run by Thomas Phinney, fonts program manager for Adobe Systems, show that none of the possible font widths available on any typewriter or any IBM device from 1972 are able to produce an exact replica of the CBS documents. "Can they do something 'similar'? Sure," Phinney said. "Could they produce those exact memos? Impossible."

If Thomas Phinney fonts program manager for Adobe Systems says
"Could they produce those exact memos? Impossible."


217 posted on 09/18/2004 10:47:44 PM PDT by crushelits
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Washington Times/AP ^ | 9/19/04
Posted on 09/19/2004 1:48:59 AM EDT by ambrose
Ex-guardsman gave Bush records to Cleland

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- A retired Texas National Guard officer mentioned as a source of disputed documents on President Bush's service in the Guard said he passed along information to a former senator working with Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry's campaign.

In an Aug. 21 e-mail to a list of Texas Democrats, Bill Burkett said after getting through "seven layers of bureaucratic kids" in the Kerry campaign, he talked with former Sen. Max Cleland, Georgia Democrat, about information that would counter criticism of Mr. Kerry's Vietnam War service.


225 posted on 09/18/2004 10:59:19 PM PDT by Cboldt
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I was at a concert tonight, The singer said they were going to be on a morning show on CBS and when he said "CBS" everyone started booing. He then said, "Yeah I know, it is Dan Rather's Network, but he will be asleep."


237 posted on 09/18/2004 11:18:30 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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CBS executives declined to address news accounts that pinpoint Burkett as the confidential source for the documents but say they weighed the fact that anyone turning over the material would not be a fan of the president.

Yeah, they weighed that any anti-Bush opininons were valid, and any pro-Bush opinions were partisan.

246 posted on 09/18/2004 11:36:57 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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As the days begin to blur for Josh Howard, he embraces the same logic: "So much of this debate has focused on the documents, and no one has really challenged the story. It's been frustrating to us to see all this reduced to a debate over little 'th's."

Plenty of people have challenged the story, not just the documents, but CBS chose not to listen to them.

248 posted on 09/18/2004 11:38:37 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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Howard said he believed some of the outsiders' questions about superscript and proportionate spacing were "kind of silly."

Ask a silly question--get a silly answer...

266 posted on 09/19/2004 7:24:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Ivan...painting curtains on the boarded windows)
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I was wondering what the actions of WH communications director Dan Bartlett reminded me of. I realized that it reminded me of the actions of fictional WH communications director Connie Spano, in the blockbuster movie "Independence Day". Maybe Bartlett is a fan of the way Spano acted in the movie?

When Connie is being pressed to provide a White House statement about the strange 'atmospheric phenomenon', someone says CNN is running with a story about a nuclear test. She says 'Tell them to run with it if they want to embarrass themselves'. 'Our official position is that we don't have an official position'. Sounds like something Barlett said back to CBS on Sept 8.


282 posted on 09/19/2004 3:01:41 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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In a DEM scheme and liberal conspiracy CBS was to air these memos, prior to Kitty Kelley's interviews with NBC hoping to set up speculation that GW refused an order to take a physical, thus suggesting there was a drug problem.


291 posted on 09/19/2004 6:48:57 PM PDT by Toespi
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As the days begin to blur for Josh Howard, he embraces the same logic: "So much of this debate has focused on the documents, and no one has really challenged the story. It's been frustrating to us to see all this reduced to a debate over little 'th's."

CBS hasn't learned a thing. The last paragraph from the story reads:

As the days begin to blur for Josh Howard, he embraces the same logic: "So much of this debate has focused on the documents, and no one has really challenged the story. It's been frustrating to us to see all this reduced to a debate over little 'th's."

295 posted on 09/19/2004 10:54:20 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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