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YOO-HOO DAN RATHER! Is a clinton discharge upgrade "pardon" behind kerry refusal to sign form 180?
9.20.04 | Mia T

Posted on 09/20/2004 3:44:51 AM PDT by Mia T

YOO-HOO DAN RATHER!

KERRY'S BELATED "HONORABLE" DISCHARGE:
Is a less-than-honorable discharge and clinton "pardon" behind Kerry's refusal to sign form 180 to release ALL of his records?
(Pres. Bush signed form 180. WHAT IS KERRY HIDING?)

 

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  1. material related to Kerry's likely less-than-honorable discharge and the apparent 2001 discharge upgrade "pardon" by clinton

  2. audio of Kerry claiming to have released or claiming that he intends to release all his military and/or medical records

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THX.

A PRESIDENT KERRY MAY BE ABHORRENT
BUT IS IT EVEN CONSTITUTIONAL?bump

 

 

THE INTERMINABLE clintons
(It's time to take out the trash... A Senate en passant capture is THE MOVE...)

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"John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I, and many of my comrades in North Vietnam, in the prison camps, took torture to avoid saying. It demoralized us," says former Vietnam POW Paul Galanti, a highly decorated Navy combat pilot.

Galanti flew 97 combat missions over Vietnam before being shot down and held at the notorious Hanoi Hilton for seven years -- including while Kerry testified.

"SELLOUT"
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No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

The United States Constitution
Amendment 14, Section 3



UNFIT #9-JOHN KERRY: DEADLY OPPORTUNIST
SELF-CONFESSED WAR CRIMlNAL MORPHS INTO SELF-PROMOTER WAR HERO


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Now that the Kerry team has again raised the issue of President Bush service in the Texas Air National Guard they should be held to answer the question below outlined by Mr. Steve Nash, US Navy, Retired. If Kerry would release all of his Military records, this issue could be put to bed.

"Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director

Authentin SEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where all investigators are US Navy Seals" http://www.authentiseal.org

Military Record

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore,,,, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it'because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended!

This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect. There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct,and Dishonorable.

My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was in the Oval Office; Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

This will blow up in his face before October 15th. ================================================================

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime). On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year,and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country,especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.. Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his not more than 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.

5. Lt Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S.Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." ...........................................end..............

Kerry not Honorably Discharged?
"Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director | 18 Sep 2004




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KEYWORDS: ammo; form180; honorabledischarge; johnkerry; kerrybio; napalminthemorning; opportunist; rathergate; sedition; traitor; treason; unconstitutional; vietnam; wot
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To: Mia T

good morning
thanks for the ping
& bttt


21 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:23 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: Brian Allen; Mia T

Is Aldrich gonna go public with it before the election?


22 posted on 09/20/2004 5:19:39 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Mia T
Said it before... Real good chance that there is a cover-up of an Undesirable Discharge upgraded to Honorable under an amnesty program...
23 posted on 09/20/2004 5:26:47 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Mia T

Can you imagine if this was Bush's record? My goodness it would be on 24 hours a day. Of course the networks know about this and they are trying to cover it up. I had read somewhere before that Kerry didn't get his "honorable" discharge until 2001 and thought it was quite strange.
Don't we have any good investigative reporters anymore?


24 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:02 AM PDT by Cricket24
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To: Mia T

This wouldn't surprise me in the least. The FBI was on to his activities in the '70s, and surely the military would have known. Why else would it have taken him nearly 30 years to get the discharge?


25 posted on 09/20/2004 5:59:32 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Mia T
Hope ya don't mind-but send this off to our media friends (and foes, hehe)>

This is an investigation we can DO RIGHT HERE....we have the means, but if we get it out there on the airwaves Mia....perhaps pressure can be brought to bear on this....

WE DESERVE TO KNOW THE FULL TRUTH!

And I, also, believe his unwillingness to RELEASE his full military record is due to our government investigating his anti-war activities that involved attending a series of mtgs. with his fellow anti-vietnam vets' group that went against not only military code of ethics, but against our government in a time of war. Oh yeah.

26 posted on 09/20/2004 6:17:00 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: holdonnow; Sean Hannity; Jeff Gannon; Ann Coulter
[from above, FReeper Mia T]

"Looking for:

material related to Kerry's likely less-than-honorable discharge and the apparent 2001 discharge upgrade "pardon" by clinton

audio of Kerry claiming to have released or claiming that he intends to release all his military and/or medical records

WILL YOU HELP US?

27 posted on 09/20/2004 6:19:59 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Republic; Mr Ramsbotham; All

Whether it's a discharge issue or simply kerry's seditious activity, the bottom line is this:

  • JOHN KERRY IS REFUSING TO RELEASE ALL OF HIS MILITARY RECORDS
  • DAN RATHER AND OLD MEDIA DON'T SEEM TO BE INTERESTED IN WHY

 

KERRY MILITARY-RECORD HANKY PANKY

As we already know that Kerry's
Kerry-military-record "upgrades" -- and, conversely, Kerry's Bush-military-record "downgrades" -- are the Kerry m.o., one would think Dan Rather et al., at a minimum, would have some professional interest in the matter Kerry's refusal to sign form 180 as it relates to the constancy of Kerry's records over time.

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief

 

August 28, 2004

 

BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB
Chicago Sun-Times


Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.

"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."

Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.

Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.

 

Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New


28 posted on 09/20/2004 7:03:00 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All
John McCain signed form 180.
WHAT IS KERRY HIDING?

29 posted on 09/20/2004 7:11:14 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Sent on to Rush, Brit and Sean.

This is a timely question.

What is good for the goose is ALWAYS good for the gander-If Kerry will NOT RELEASE his full military records, everyone should KNOW about it, and everyone should be asking WHY!

This man wants to be our Commander in Chief.

Can you imagine this man as President, commanding our military, when he, himself, not only manufactured records to receive fake medals, but threw them away (lol-he can't even get THAT story straight) and was, perhaps, engaged in seditious behavior that caused a dishonorable discharge, or perhaps, an investigation we KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

After all.........he did attempt to negotiate with the enemy while still serving in our military and attended a mtg where the murdering of sitting senators was discussed.

Hell, if I had been Nixon....I would have been breaking into the DNC htq at the time as well...now that we know the mainstream press collusion to destroy resolve to win the Vietnam War (thank you liberal Walter Cronkite) might have bolstered kerry's anti-war activities.....if talk of murder was going on...the connections NEEDED to be made!

30 posted on 09/20/2004 7:23:55 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Mia T; Brian Allen; Congressman Billybob; Bob J; diotima; Gary Aldrich; holdonnow; Sean Hannity; ...
[ Mia T ]<< My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was in the Oval Office; Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

This will blow up in his face before October 15th. >> [end Mia T ]

[Brian Allen ] "While then Lt George Walker Bush was flying circuits and bumps in the dreadful Delta Dagger, the traitor, Kerry, was being trailed around the clock by an FBI surveillance team which built up a massive file on his un-and-anti-American activities -- including but not limited to his treasonous foreign meetings with and offering aid and comfort to America's enemies in time of war and his attendance at a series of meetings at which the murder of Senators and others was discussed.

Check with Gary Aldrich. While Kerry's gang fantasize President Bush's "record" and fabulize Kerry's -- Mr Aldrich browses a stack of very very real FBI records that quite clearly reveal Kerry as the traitor he always was -- and is still!

Blessings -- B A " [end Brian Allen]

Mia, babe, this thread shows over two thousand and one hundred and fifty views-hopefully someone in the media is paying close attention!. Have I told you today how very much you ROCK! :^)

31 posted on 09/20/2004 9:15:31 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Mia T
Mia.......... you are so HOT......... on this topic!

;-)

I want to see Kerry's full records......... before he hangs himself in his wine cellar.

32 posted on 09/20/2004 1:45:40 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea
ME TOO! RELEASE THE RECORDS- KERRY!!! STOP BEING A COWARD!

Someone needs to ask BILLY KLINTON if he PARDONED John F Kerry regarding Kerry's military service....LOL...I mean, klinton pardoned TERRORISTS, and he PARDONED wealthy donors, so why not pardon a traitor!

33 posted on 09/20/2004 3:38:40 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Mia T

Wouldn't you just love to be a fly on the wall in the CEO's office over at cBS.


34 posted on 09/20/2004 3:40:07 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mia T

BTTT


35 posted on 09/20/2004 3:41:10 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: Mia T

Bookmarketed as usual,Mia...another great thread! :-)


36 posted on 09/20/2004 5:14:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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37 posted on 09/20/2004 6:28:15 PM PDT by devolve ( -- JOHN"V"KINKOS scams POW wives! - http://pro.lookingat.us/POW.html --)
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To: devolve

Oh devolve, that is perfect!! Dancing on the 'V' keyboard, I love it!


38 posted on 09/20/2004 8:14:30 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: potlatch
That is kinda funny! Poor NYT's....so like CBS.

Would you not just FLIP OUT if either of these organizations....GASP....even ONCE attempted to get a good look and report on KERRY;s UNRELEASED RECORDS>>>They know Kerry has NOT RELEASED ALL OF HIS RECORDS...and the COVER FOR HIM.....

.Did Kerry get a TIMELY HONORABLE DISCHARGE...OR NOT?

My goodness...these new organizations IGNORE the GLARING HOLES IN KERRY's MILITARY HISTORY and put a magnifying glass to Bush's FULLY RELEASED REPORTS.

A sicker display of MEDIA favoring ONE candidate over the OTHER could not be made.

Talk abou BIAS!!!

39 posted on 09/21/2004 6:16:10 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Republic
.Did Kerry get a TIMELY HONORABLE DISCHARGE...OR NOT?

Well......thirty years isn't bad if you have patience, LOL!

40 posted on 09/21/2004 3:10:41 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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