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Jane Fonda again!
unknown email | 9/19/2004 | unknown email

Posted on 09/20/2004 6:19:04 AM PDT by richardtavor

Take note, Washington: Jane Fonda should be tried for treason. If the statute of limitations has run out on this crime, then I for one would certainly cast my vote on Congressional legislation to try her on aiding and abetting the enemy. She MUST NOT be allowed to get away with her disgraceful and traitorous acts.

Ronald M. Landau Huntington Beach, CA

KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

This is especially for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."

Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.

The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action."

His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.

His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived.

Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand.

When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"

Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat.

At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings.

Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.

My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb. (My normal weight is 170 lb.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda.

I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released.

I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.

She did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women."

Lest we forget..." 100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.

It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343


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I don't know if this is true, but people like Jane Fonda and John Kerry think that they can sweep their past under the carpet. They should never be able to feel comfortable with their past when it comes to the misery that they caused our POWs. Anytime someone questions the actions of the Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth, they should be reminded that we have had traitors in our midst.
1 posted on 09/20/2004 6:19:04 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

I got petty revenge on her by giving bad reviews on all her movies on Amazon!


2 posted on 09/20/2004 6:23:42 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: richardtavor

No trial for treason. She should just mysteriously vanish one day.


3 posted on 09/20/2004 6:25:38 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (REMEMBER!)
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To: richardtavor
She MUST NOT be allowed to get away with her disgraceful and traitorous acts.

I don't think she has. She may not be tried in a court, but she will definitely be, and has been, tried in the court of public opinion.

Jane Fonda has made her place in history as a traitor to America, which will far outlast any films she may have made.

You own history has a way of catching up with you as Kerry is now finding out.

4 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:22 AM PDT by Noachian (Judicial legislation, being void of representation, is tyranny)
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To: richardtavor
Click here TREASON for an outline about the Communist Loving Duo
5 posted on 09/20/2004 6:27:52 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=27702

Your link didn't work, is this the right one?


6 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:55 AM PDT by The Mayor (It is easier to resist the first evil desire than to satisfy all the ones that follow.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Background of Jane Fonda's Anti-War Activities

While American Soldiers were fighting and dying in the Vietnam War, Jane Fonda, the daughter of Henry Fonda, was using her money and influence at colleges and universities to gather support to advocate communism and encourage rebellion and anarchy against the United States Government.

On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. " Washington Times July 7, 2000

Jane Fonda began her participation in anti-war activities around 1967, allegedly after meeting with Communists while in France and with American citizens who were revolutionaries. Her activities included active participation in demonstrations, rallies, radio broadcasts and plays.

Jane Fonda also helped in the organization of a production group called the F.T.A. (F*** The Army). This group helped to set up coffee houses near military bases where they would perform anti-war derogatory-type sketches for the visiting soldiers. The coffee-house sketches were intended to counterpoint the U.S.O. shows, such as Bob Hope and other U.S.O. sponsored performers whose performances increased morale and gave positive support to American soldiers. Some of the F.T.A. coffee house employees would mingle with the soldiers to help them to "relax and unwind", while encouraging the soldiers to desert. Some soldiers alleged that they were promised jobs and money by the F.T.A. if they deserted.

The Vietnam Veterans Against the War Organization received major financial support from Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda's F.T.A. coffee houses helped in recruiting soldiers and veterans for the Vietnam Veterans Against The War Organization. The Vietnam Veterans Against the War Organization membership was approximately 7,000 at it's highest. The Organization's membership number was comparatively low, when you consider that more than 2 1/2 million Americans served during the Vietnam war.

Jane Fonda personally sought out returning American soldiers from Vietnam to solicit them to publicly speak out against American atrocities against Vietnamese women and children during her broadcasts. North Vietnamese officials based in Canada allegedly coordinated her broadcasts.

In 1972 Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden and others traveled to North Vietnam to give their support to the North Vietnamese's Government. When she returned to the United States, she advised the news media that all of the American Prisoners of War were being well treated and were not being tortured.

As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."

The Wall Street Journal (August 3, 1995) published an interview with Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded "It was essential to our strategy" referring to the war being fought on two fronts, the Vietnam battlefield and back home in America through the antiwar movement on college campuses and in the city streets. He further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the American evening news broadcasts "to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement." Visits to Hanoi made by persons such as Jane Fonda, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and various church ministers "gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses." Mr. Tin surmised that "America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win." Mr. Tin further advised that General Vo Nguyen Giap (Commanding General of the North Vietnam Army) said the 1968 Tet Offensive was a defeat. Gen. Giap in his book, made the same statement, adding that they were surprised by the news media reporting and the demonstrations in America. Instead of seeking a conditional surrender, they would now hold out because America's resolve was weakening and victory could be theirs.

From 1969 to the end of the war over 20,000 American soldiers lost their lives in a war that the United States did not have the resolve to win. If General Giap was accurate in his assessment that North Vietnam was going to seek a conditional surrender at the Paris Peace Conference, but stopped due to the sensationalism of the American news media and the anti-war protests following the 1968 Tet Offensive, it follows that those who participated in these anti-war activities have to share partial responsibility for those 20,000 + Americans deaths.

We won the war on the battlefield but lost it back home on the college campuses and in the city streets.

Americans must realize that there are agents* operating in this Country attempting to undermine our Country and it's leadership through our democratic principles in an effort to achieve a foreign country's goal. A prime example of such a person during the Vietnam War was Jane Fonda, an admitted Socialist, who blatantly supported North Vietnam. * Agent - Any person who works to obtain the goals of another nation either for money or for their own political beliefs.

A valuable lesson was taught by North Vietnam to other nations on how the United States may be defeated by fighting a two front war - the battlefield and the American home front. We must be aware of this vulnerability.

In 1975, after the fall of the South Vietnam Government, Jane Fonda returned to Hanoi with her newborn son Troy for a celebration in her honor for the work she had done for North Vietnam. During the celebration, her son was christened after a Viet Cong hero, Nguyen Van Troi. Troi had attempted to assassinate Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara while on his visit to South Vietnam in 1963. The South Vietnam Government executed Troi for this attempted assassination.

I have heard and read that some people believe that Jane Fonda was simply young and impressionable. Jane Fonda was born on December 21, 1937. She was 34 years old when she made her infamous trip to North Vietnam and was in her 30's when she participated in anti-war demonstrations and rallies. During this same time period a large number of young American soldiers, who had not yet reached their 21st birthday, were fighting the war in Vietnam and were held accountable for all of their actions. These same young soldiers were, upon their return to the United States, still not of legal age to vote or buy alcoholic beverages. Jane Fonda was an adult when she made these conscious decisions and actions, and as such, she is responsible and should be held accountable. The Vietnam Memorial Wall contains the names of 25,493 American soldiers who served their Country and paid the ultimate price for freedom who were under the age of 21 ( Casualty Statistics).

7 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:35 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: richardtavor
Part of this is an urban legend. I have heard it expressed by vets that they would prefer that fiction (the notes) not be mixed with the truth, because it makes the whole truth suspect. More bout the urban legend at snopes.com
8 posted on 09/20/2004 6:42:39 AM PDT by Dutchgirl (FreeRepublic !! The best pajama/ cocktail party on earth!!)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

For the same reason Hitlery the toon is still in politics is what gave the UrinalCake Queen a pass.

NO ONE COULD BELIEVE SOMEONE WOULD BE CAPABLE OF DOING WHAT SHE DID!

I was 18 in 1971 and you bet your butt I was paying attention cause I knew I was NEXT!

Henry Fonda's little girl was a traitorous two-faced anti-American communist loving back stabbing low life piece of roach excretment who should have been drawn and quartered on the Capitol steps and her freshly quartered limbs should have been cooked and served to lab rats!

But, no no no, Henry Fonda couldn't have raised such a low life traitorous BITCH! And Then Along comes John sKerry and his band of lieing conniving SOB's who pounded the anti-war drums until the moon stopped spinning! (Yes, it spun before 1971)

Is there a punishment worthy of this elite blue blooded hollywood protected slut? If there is, my humanity can't imagine it. But I'd second any suggestion!


9 posted on 09/20/2004 6:48:52 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoeSixPack1

The only reason I hope there is a hell, is that Jane Fonda will spend an eternity there.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 6:58:11 AM PDT by confederate66
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To: richardtavor

Truly she is a pig.


11 posted on 09/20/2004 7:08:17 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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To: richardtavor
Barbara Walters' 100 Women of the Century.
12 posted on 01/09/2005 9:29:14 AM PST by Archaean
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To: richardtavor

This latest so called apology of hers is as hollow as can be. News shows are discussing whether or not America should forgive her. As far as I'm concerned, it isn't up to America, it's up to those of us that served and she hurt whether or not she ever gets forgiveness.

As for me, the bumper sticker remains on the back of my truck; "I WILL FORGIVE JANE FONDA WHEN THE JEWS FORGIVE HITLER!"


13 posted on 04/05/2005 6:14:12 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: richardtavor

Come help us protest her book tour. Details, including Hanoi Jane's tour itinerary, can be found at

http://www.operationstreetcorner.com/janefonda.htm

Please send us pictures and narratives of your protest, so we can get them posted as inspiration to others.

Thanks again for the support! Maybe someday we'll see her behind bars, or even better - swinging from a traitor's noose.

Amanda


14 posted on 04/11/2005 8:53:19 PM PDT by KerrysTreason.com
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