Skip to comments.Blame Mary! (is CBS leaking damning info to save itself by blaming Mary Mapes/Democrats/Kerry?)
Posted on 09/21/2004 10:06:19 AM PDT by Cableguy
So far, Ellis' prediction of second-day anti-Mapes revelations has proved eerily prescient. And Joe Lockhart is in on the Save-Dan-By-Throwing-Mary-Overboard conspiracy! ... P.S.: I don't understand why it would have been wrong for Mapes to ask Lockhart to call Bill Burkett as part of a deal to get the documents. If the documents hadn't been phony that would have been smart journalism, no? A harmless favor to produce a big scoop. It only looks like partisanship on the part of Mapes if it was not part of an implicit deal to get the story--i.e., if Mapes was just freelancing with her Dem buddies to help bring down Bush. Perversely, by denying a deal the CBS flacks actually make Mapes look gratuitously bad. ... Oh wait, I forgot. According to Ellis they're trying to make Mapes look bad.. ...
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- gains favor with the Bushies - can blame Mary Mapes, a Democrat partisan - takes the spotlight off of CBS and on Kerry/DNC - save Dan Rather and 60 Minutes - get some of Republican viewers back
The scum. We know who's to blame. Dan Rather has had the hots to defeat Bush; that's obvious. He was the one who pushed the memo story through 60 Minutes, getting it on the air despite the advice of their "advisors." Rather is to blame. He should take the fall.
Of course they'll throw Mapes over...who needs her???
But I hope they keep Blather...
What better icon of MSM news than the lying liberal Blather!!!
Don't let 'em do it.
Captain Dan the Newsman should go down with the ship -- can we fire an extra torpedo into it as it goes down?
Except it makes your campaign a willing participant in 'dirty tricks.' No 'plausible deniability' here.
What I wonder is what, exactly, did they tell Lockhart? "Hey, we can get documents to ruin Bush and all you have to do is make a phone call?"
Liars for the ages.
Ol dan the dem IS THE EDITOR AND CHIEF OF CBS EVENING NEWS. Period. Nothing goes on his program without his ok.
The problem with CBS is that they didn't even try to do the proper due diligence to verify the memos. They dismissed people like Staudt and Killian's relatives as "GOP ideologues," while using the testimony of a "Yellow Dog" Democrat pool typist as their witness. Rather believed what he wanted to believe, and tried to convince everyone else to believe the same thing. All parties, including Rather, and the entire Viacom management need to go down for this.
yeah and the SBVT stuff was, of course, too hot to handle and could not be "verified" so they ignored it.
His inability to even concede the point that the memos could be fakes, when everyone else on the planet knows that they are proves just how detached from reality this partisan hack is. Even the DUmmies concede it. But not Dan.
IMHO, Mary Mapes is stupid. She's been working on the "Bush shirked his duty" story for 5 years. And she never came up with documentation that he served his required time honorably?
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent
They were trying to get really down and dirty -- even dirtier than the shirking of duty story that they couldn't prove after 5 years of digging. These documents were forged to frame the President by showing that he disobeyed a direct order from a superior officer. They were going for the jugular. They are NOT going to get away with it. I imagine behind the scenes that President Bush is furious about this.
I just figured out why Burkett would want to talk to someone in the Kerry campaign before turning over the documents - he was asking for a job in the Kerry administration in exchange for the documents.
Their own experts told them they were fakes, so they intentionally put them out knowing they were false---which is why they put so much emphasis on the idea that they acted in good failth, and were misled. Burkitt is still lying as the patsy, fall-guy,cut-away, to stop digging. But the real question is why were the forgeries so crude, anyone could do a decent job with an old typewriter. I belive that the freeper theory (which thread I don't rember) that the burkitt's post that the files were being reassmbled, then the originals are being kept, until Bush denies their authencity.
What about Dan Blather's daughter is there in Dallas with Mapes? Culpable?
Oh, yeah, they're blaming it on the poor boss woman, poor, victimized Democrats (see title that should include "ZOT") and poor, poor, misunderstood Kerry, instead of blaming it on the Republican white male conspiracy to save the left/liberal suck-up peon, Gunga Dan. Renegade Democrat commentors who see the mean, mean, right wing conspiracy by the "Bushies" (Democrat word--works sort of like "Fundies") told us so.
What makes them think she'll put up with this?
Rather is gone in '05 or '06 any way, so if Mapes is gone, the Democrats lose their mouthpiece. Period.
it is not shoddy reporting. It is blatently partisan, dishonest reporting designed to defeat a sitting president of the united states. This is vey serieser than shoddy.
I don't know if this is usually the case with CBS, but I did notice that during Dan's rebuttals on 60 Minutes, they continued to leave the graphic with the picture of a young Bush behind Rather, with the title, "Producer: Mary Mapes" in bold type, so you couldn't miss who they were trying to blame.
FWIW, found in a search this morning on "Fortunate Son":
Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe said the accusations were based on documents uncovered by the Associated Press and Boston Globe, not the disputed memos shown on 60 Minutes.
But then Terry had to open his mouth to say that...which is a sure clue he just might be lying.
Jeeeez. This just gets better and better.
Why have they also expected some kind of "diplomatic" immunity when it's obvious they have been conspiring to defraud the American public and affect National Elections since 2000??
This time they are DEAD-TO-RIGHTS.
Federal indictments should be handed down; CBS and the DNC should be investigated....
THOROUGHLY. Then Mapes, Rather, Lockhart, and McAulliffe should be convicted -- IF NOT their Ring-Leader, John Kerry...
Afterall, isn't THIS what the MSM would be clamoring for should the situation been about a "conspiracy between Fox and the RNC"??
If CBS is behind the leaking, them perhaps they fear being shut down by the FEC for campaigning illegally. They have not declared themself to be any particular interest group have they? Perhaps the Swift Boat Veterans can show them the proper documents to fill out before they continue their "campaign". How does the FEC look upon this?
Good grief! Someone ought to sell tickets to this!
"Thursday, September 16, 2004
If, as CBS's defensive press release boasts,
Mary Mapes, the producer of the report and a well-respected, veteran journalist whose credibility has never been questioned, has been following this story for more than five years
and has a vast and detailed knowledge of the issues surrounding Bush's service in the Guard and of the individuals involved in the story [emphasis added"
Make sure that all of the manipulators behind Rather continue to be dumped. Rather will slide off of the screen, in time. Meanwhile, he'll be a constant television reminder for all voters with any sanity at all to vote for President Bush.
I am looking for detailed background information on Mary Mapes and her husband Mark Wrolstad. Anything you can find would be helpful but particular items of interest include:
-- biographical information
-- participation in left wing groups or causes
-- contributions to or affiliation with democratic campaigns
-- attributable quotes
-- known associates
Thanks in advance!
Lof of the leg work already has been done by Freepers. If you search the site, I am sure you can come up with most of your questions.
The 2nd best resources I have seen is ratherbiased.com You might want to go through the site. It has bunch of articles linked to it.
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