Posted on 09/22/2004 6:25:13 AM PDT by presidio9
A war of words has erupted within the halls of "60 Minutes" following Dan Rather's admission that CBS News aired a report on President Bush using questionable documents. On one side of the battle is Steve Kroft, a veteran correspondent on the Sunday edition of "60 Minutes." On the other is Don Hewitt, founder of the pioneering newsmagazine.
Kroft argues it's unlikely the Sunday show would have made the mistake of using the documents that bolstered Rather's report - which aired on the Wednesday telecast, formerly known as "60 Minutes II."
So much so, Kroft and staffers on the Sunday telecast want it to be clear - they weren't the ones that were duped.
"We're all afraid of that, that's our biggest concern," Kroft told the Daily News. "We've held off from saying it, we've held off from making any comments as long as there was some hope the documents would prove to be real.
"Now, I think it's our responsibility to try to draw a distinction between the two broadcasts," Kroft said, admitting that the original show had been burned in the past and had learned from its mistakes. "They've done a lot of great work over there ... particularly with the Abu Ghraib story, they didn't rush that story on the air. This one, for whatever reason, they did."
Kroft said he was surprised when "60 Minutes II" dropped the "II" in its name, but noted yesterday that in CBS' statements regarding the mistake, the show had become "60 Minutes Wednesday."
The second edition of "60 Minutes" was a contentious project from the start. Hewitt, the creator of "60 Minutes," fought against expanding the franchise but was overruled. The second show launched Jan. 13, 1999.
"I think they've acquitted themselves nicely," said Hewitt, who was forced out as executive producer last season. "When I objected to there being a second show, I didn't know how good it was going to be."
He scolded his old crew yesterday for sniping at their beleaguered colleagues.
"Now, when the other one is in trouble, they're piling on. It's unfair, uncalled for and not the way that grown men should act," Hewitt said.
Kroft is not alone in questioning what led to Rather's having to admit the show made a mistake.
"There's anger in the rank and file that this could have happened," said a CBS News source.
Rather told The News Monday he was appreciative of those who have expressed support.
"And for those who haven't been, including those who haven't been and thought they needed to anonymously take their shots, I say, I understand," he said.
Meanwhile, attempts to trace the origins of the fraudulent paperwork have foundered on attacks from Democrats and Republicans suggesting that their political opponents concocted them.
USA Today, which also received the papers from anti-Bush activist Bill Burkett, reported yesterday that Burkett told them he was offered the documents from a woman who identified herself on the phone as Lucy Ramirez.
But when he rendezvoused with Ramirez, an unidentified man showed up instead and dropped them off.
USA Today said it has been unable to trace Ramirez.
New Yorkers go easy on Dan
New Yorkers were generally forgiving of Dan Rather's running a story based on unproven documents that attacked President Bush.
"Rather made a mistake and he was man enough to admit it." - Kaiseem Felder, 49, Xerox technician, Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn.
"All I could think of was this is what he will be remembered for after such a successful career. But mistakes happen all the time in the news." - Jane Marie Giustra, 24, sales assistant, Hoboken, N.J.
"Everything they said about Bush is true; they just haven't found the evidence yet." - Dale Channer, 34, florist, the Bronx.
"He screwed up and ought to be held accountable. He should not be fired but he should apologize formally to the President." - Jim Oldham, 42, salesclerk, Weehawken, N.J.
"I feel bad for Dan Rather because he is such a respected person. CBS should take more time to research and look at who was giving them the information." - Nichole Anderson, 34, event planner, North Brunswick, N.J.
"He should have gotten the facts right, but it's not uncommon what he did." - Eddie Tallarine, 37, electrician, Massapequa, L.I.
"CBS should have checked the information before they came out with it, but the reputation of CBS is good. ... It was one mistake." - Fernando Monte, 30, consultant, Yonkers.
"I view him as an anchorperson, not the person really out gathering the information. I don't think he should resign over this." - Cynthia Lazzari, 44, health-care information manager, Philadelphia.
CBS would be smart to sell the show to one of the other networks and close up shop. Do it before its value has completely disintegrated.
No War for Oil. Bush Lied People Died. Bush AWOL blah blah blah
Priceless! Have another glass of Kool-aide.
When you drop atom bombs you need to be very careful about collateral damage.
60 minutes is no more. Radiation sickness will kill it.
"Everything they said about Bush is true; they just haven't found the evidence yet." - Dale Channer, 34, florist, the Bronx. "
Without 'evidence', that's called 'speculation and conjecture'.
Or 'wishful thinking'.
They are just repeating what they are constantly being fed. I actually enlightened a couple of libs with Byron York's article.
http://www.hillnews.com/york/090904.aspx
The old fogeys like Wallace and Safer are noticeably quiet. It is the "new" guys like Kroft - those who haven't been there since Noah let loose the birds - who are speaking up. This dispute sounds generational. The old boys are circling the wagons.
All they'd have to do is stop by the fresh fruit aisle at their local supermarket.
On another note, it was inevitable that this kind of internecine warfare would break out at CBS, as people scramble to protect their reputations and exploit the situation to advance their careers, settle old scores, etc.
Blinders on? Check.
Bias engaged? Check.
OT: vanity fair is very liberal, right? its that same graydon putz that writes for LA times or some such thing? I only remember bits and pieces but I need to dispute someone that claims you'll get the 'truth' about the GWB 2000 election and the supreme court from this mag.
I can just see Dale saying this while making a flower arrangement with his limp wrists.
I hope you're right! Good bye to bad garbage.
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I have heard this point of view stated a over and over by people I work with. I guess evidence means nothing to them. I wonder how they would feel if they were on trail and this form of "reasoning" was used to convict them. It's so typical of liberalism. Facts mean nothing. What is important is how one feels.
Dale Channer, 34, florist, the Bronx.
Dale Channer appears to be another hostile Girly it/homosexual, who hates GW.
Dale, go arrange your flowers and STFU.
Giggle
Hmmm...a male florist who hates Bush.
Homo?
Since most of the CBS stars are well past retirement age, its in Kroft's interest to see them kicked aside. Go Steve !
Yeah, were still waiting for one ounce of proof this went, "all the way to the top"!
Wonder what the conversation between Lockhart and Mapes happened. That is where the coordination most likely was.
Pray for W and Our Troops
At least "Lucy Ramirez" doesn't sound as fishy as "Heywood Jablome"......
That's right, I forgot: Ohio is crawling with rocket scientists! This is the Daily News Tony. Look at the type of people they questioned.
But yeah, that was my immediate thought taking into account his gender, occupation, and ridiculous assertion about GWB. Too funny!
I think it should be clear that anyone who followed the story and wasn't convinced by Newcomer and the Adobe and Apple font programmers is simply not smart enough to be in the news business.
This constitutes an industry wide IQ test: who was still not convinced of the forgery at the end of 48 hours?
Prosecutors love simpletons like this...
Drawing Kroft's line would be like knifing one's heart in two.
They are one.
His attitude, though, reflects the brainwashing by the CBS news team. My guess is that like most Democrats, he doesn't give a hoot whether Bush served admirably in the military. He just doesn't like Bush.
"Everything they said about Bush is true; they just haven't found the evidence yet." - Dale Channer, 34, florist, the Bronx. "
From the "guilty until proven innocent" school.
That one was too easy.
For an interesting exercise from now on.
Whenever you read a really hateful article, oped, editorial against GW do a Yahoo search with the name of the writer and Gay.
It is amazing how many of these hate GW clymers are Gay Activists or Pro Gay Activists who have pushed the radical gay agenda in the last decade. A prime example was Tom Hays the AP liar in the boos lie that AP put out.
"Everything they said about Bush is true; they just haven't found the evidence yet." - Dale Channer, 34, florist, the Bronx.
Tell it to Judge Trudy.
What's more unbelievable is... in a article that's ultimately about bias...these "comments" that were "collected" are typical of the bias we see in the media every STINKING day..!!
Some questions are begging.
How were these comments collected?
What was the sample size?
Who collected them? Who edited them?
IT's ALL JUST MORE C--BS..!!!
must read comments bump
Whenever you read a really hateful article, oped, editorial against GW do a Yahoo search with the name of the writer and Gay.
It is amazing how many of these hate GW clymers are Gay Activists or Pro Gay Activists who have pushed the radical gay agenda in the last decade. A prime example was Tom Hays the AP liar in the boos lie that AP put out.
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Out of eight "people" quoted, four are from NY, one from PA, and three from NJ.
Close enough for the Daily News, I guess.
What would we lowly Freepers do if we weren't reinforced in our by beliefs by some nondescript idiot saying "it was just a mistake, can't we forgive and forget?"
Sorry, its not 60 minutes with the black eye, it's the whole damn network. EVERY show, EVERY affiliate, and EVERY advertiser.
Added Hewitt, "Grown men should coach Democrat presidential candidates and their wives on how they should answer the questions in an interview. They should deliberately edit the videotape in a way that lies appear to be truth. They should deliberately do stories to help get Democrats elected president and pretend it's news. I did it with Clinton in 1992, and I'm a grown man."
Either the NYDaily News conducted selective interviews or the typical NY'er is dumber than a box of rocks!
No blood-No foul.
I just get pissed when people knee-jerk their opinions of NY. Yeah, there are a lot of liberals here. But there are also plenty of conservatives. Rudy Guiliani was beating Hillary Clinton before he got prostate cancer. Kissinger lives here. We count Peggy Noonan, Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram among our single women. Nixon retired here. NY is the capital of the world. As such, it is home to all types.
Bet this guy could get you a heck of a deal on a bouquet of pansies!
How come half their New Yorkers aren't from NY? :)
The days of MSM throwing shiite on the wall and hoping it sticks is over.
What has Chris Wallace had to say about all this? Has he been a little quiet too?
Excellent! I'll try that technique.
I would bet that the homo agenda lies at the root of most of the Left's bitter hatred these days. Hedonistic crybabies despise Bush's morals, and they fear that his policies will take away their Constitutional "right" to fudgepack.
That in itself is a HUGE redeeming quality!!! If only we were so fortunate :)
No, they took their time on this one to ensure they could blow up something that was already being investigated and ensure the biggest blow to the morale of our troops. - Scumbags...
Nice try, 'Rat brain.
We know why.
LVM
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