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Hurricane Jeanne cat 2 25 Sep 2004
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Posted on 09/25/2004 2:00:34 AM PDT by libtoken

Hurricane Jeanne Advisory Number 47...Corrected

Statement as of 5:00 am EDT on September 25, 2004

...Corrected to add headline and storm tides along the Florida West Coast...

...Jeanne moving westward toward the abaco islands...expected to intensify into a category three hurricane... A Hurricane Warning is in effect along the Florida East Coast from Florida City northward to St. Augustine...including Lake Okeechobee. A Hurricane Warning is also in effect for the northwestern Bahamas...including the Abacos...Andros Island...Berry Islands...Bimini...Eleuthera...Grand Bahama Island...and New Providence. Preparations to protect life and property throughout the Hurricane Warning area should be rushed to completion.

A Hurricane Watch remains in effect for the northeast Florida and Georgia coasts from north of St. Augustine to Altamaha Sound Georgia.

At 5 am EDT...0900z...a Tropical Storm Warning is in effect along the West Coast of Florida from East Cape Sable northward to Anclote key. A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the central Bahamas...including Cat Island...the Exumas...Long Island...Rum Cay...and San Salvador.

At 5 am EDT...0900z...the tropical storm watch has been extended northward along the West Coast of Florida to the Ochlockonee River. A tropical storm watch is now in effect from south of Florida City around the southern end of the Florida Peninsula to East Cape Sable...and north of Anclote key along the West Coast to the Ochlockonee River...including Florida Bay...and the Florida Keys north of the Seven Mile Bridge. We are reminded that Yom Kippur...a solemn Jewish Holiday...will last until Sundown today. Some of your Jewish neighbors in the watch and warning areas observing Yom Kippur will not be listening to radios or watching TV...and may not be aware of the hurricane situation.

At 5 am EDT...0900z...the center of Hurricane Jeanne was located near latitude 26.5 north...longitude 76.2 west or about 55 miles...90 km...east of Great Abaco Island in the northwestern Bahamas. This position is also about 240 miles...385 km...east of the southeastern coast of Florida.

Jeanne is moving toward the west near 14 mph...22 km/hr...and this motion is expected to continue for the next 24 hours. On this track...the core of Jeanne will be passing near or over the abaco islands in the next few hours...near or over the remainder of the northwestern Bahamas later today...and approach the southeastern coast of Florida tonight or early Sunday.

Reports from an Air Force Reserve hurricane hunter aircraft indicate that maximum sustained winds are near 105 mph...165 km/hr...with higher gusts. Strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours...and Jeanne will likely become a major hurricane later today.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 70 miles...110 km... from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 205 miles...335 km.

The latest minimum central pressure reported by the hurricane hunter is 958 mb...28.29 inches.

Storm surge flooding of 4 to 8 feet above normal tide levels...along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be expected near the center of Jeanne on the north side of Grand Bahama Island and on the west side of the abaco islands. Storm surge flooding of 2 to 4 feet above normal tide levels can be expected on the west side of the other islands of the Bahamas in the Hurricane Warning area.

Coastal storm surge flooding of 4 to 6 feet above normal tide levels...along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be expected near and to the north of where the center makes landfall along the Florida East Coast. Tides of 1 to 2 feet above normal are possible in the warned area along the Florida West Coast.

Rainfall totals of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated higher amounts...are possible along the track of Jeanne over the northwestern Bahamas and Florida.

Dangerous surf and rip currents...caused by large swells generated by Hurricane Jeanne...are possible elsewhere along the southeastern U.S. Coast and the northwest and the Bahamas for the next few days.

Repeating the 5 am EDT position...26.5 N... 76.2 W. Movement toward...west near 14 mph. Maximum sustained winds...105 mph. Minimum central pressure... 958 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at 8 am EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 11 am EDT.

Forecaster Beven


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanejeanne; jeanne; tsjeanne

1 posted on 09/25/2004 2:00:34 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: libtoken

Hurricane Jeanne Discussion Number 47


Statement as of 5:00 am EDT on September 25, 2004



satellite imagery and reports from an Air Force Reserve hurricane
hunter aircraft indicate that Jeanne continues to maintain a 40 nm
wide eye. The central pressure has dropped to 958 mb...and the
aircraft reported 700 mb flight-level winds of about 100 kt. This
is the basis for the initial 90 kt intensity. Jeanne is currently
generating very cold cloud tops south of the eye...but a dry slot
is apparent north of the eye. Cirrus outflow is currently fair to
good in all directions. The aircraft reported 110 kt flight-level
winds at 850 mb in the southwestern quadrant...apparently due to an
eyewall mesovortex and the associated intense convection.
The initial motion wobbles between 270/12 and 275/12. Jeanne
remains on the south side of a strong deep-layer ridge...which
large-scale models now forecast to persist long enough to drive
Jeanne into southeastern or east-central Florida in about 24 hr.
Beyond that time...the ridge should weaken and move far enough to
the east to allow Jeanne to turn northwestward...followed by
eventual recurvature into the westerlies. All guidance agrees on
this scenario and has shown a westward shift since the previous
package...but there remain differences on when and where Jeanne
will turn. The official forecast continues the current motion
until landfall in Florida in 24 hr...then turns the cyclone
northwestward and northward up the Florida Peninsula and
northeastward across the southeastern United States. The forecast
track is along the southern edge of the guidance for the first 24
hr...and just east of the model consensus from 24-72 hr. It has
been shifted westward from the previous package...most notably over
the Florida Peninsula.
Guidance now suggests that upper-level winds will remain favorable
for Jeanne to strengthen until landfall. Therefore...the main
restraining factors for development are the current large eye...and
the abundant dry air surrounding the hurricane. SHIPS and the GFDL
both take Jeanne to 100 kt by landfall. Given the current
trends...the intensity forecast will go a little higher and call
for 105 kt. It would not be a surprise to see Jeanne get stronger
than that...and reaching category four status is not out of the
question. Jeanne should steadily weaken after landfall...becoming
a depression over the southeastern United States and eventually
becoming extratropical over the northwestern Atlantic.
Forecaster Beven

forecast positions and Max winds

initial 25/0900z 26.5n 76.2w 90 kt
12hr VT 25/1800z 26.7n 78.2w 100 kt
24hr VT 26/0600z 27.3n 80.3w 105 kt...inland
36hr VT 26/1800z 28.6n 81.9w 75 kt...inland
48hr VT 27/0600z 30.4n 82.5w 45 kt...inland
72hr VT 28/0600z 34.0n 80.5w 30 kt...inland
96hr VT 29/0600z 38.5n 72.5w 30 kt...over water
120hr VT 30/0600z 43.0n 62.0w 30 kt...extratropical


2 posted on 09/25/2004 2:04:30 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: libtoken

Landfall appears to have moved South to the same area as Frances hit. I doubt if this is the final trajectory. Another 24 hours may see it midway through Palm Beach County.

Florida FReepers: FPL has stated that this time, repairs will not happen so quickly for power outages. FPL has strained it's resources to the max in rendering aid to devastated areas of Florida. It's been suggested (not by FPL) that those of you without power should try to take more comfort in the fact you still have a home.

Just the facts we're dealing with now. Prayers for those in the path of Jeanne. I guess that's me, too.

3 posted on 09/25/2004 2:23:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

Well, looks like they're moving the track west.

That's what happened with Ivan in the Caribbean, the track kept moving west.

I'm ready...LOL!

But at the store last night there was plenty of supplies (I was only there to buy stuff for my MIL) and replenish our milk/bread supply.

Water was in good supply, as were batteries, etc.

Hope people are watching this, especially those on the west Coast (that's where I am).


4 posted on 09/25/2004 2:29:22 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: libtoken
Here's the computer models.

Question: Why do they all show it coming across the state and turning back or being steered sharply northward? Is that because the remnants of Ivan are still in the Gulf?


5 posted on 09/25/2004 2:33:15 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: libtoken
It would not be a surprise to see Jeanne get stronger than that...and reaching category four status is not out of the question.

People are just tired and not paying much attention to this one for some reason. I had a lot of co-workers leave on the last threat (Ivan), this one they are just saying, "the heck with it!"

6 posted on 09/25/2004 3:18:20 AM PDT by BushCountry
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To: libtoken

Jeanne's satellite profile indicates strengthening. Some dry air was absorbed in, but it didn't seem to have any effect. The eyewall filled in, central dense overcast size is increasing and the cloudtops are rising. The eye is more definite. This thing is organizing.


7 posted on 09/25/2004 3:42:10 AM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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To: dawn53

There is a ridge that will move east and as it does, will steer Jeanne more northerly then eventually more NE-easterly.

BTW, there is an outside chance it could hit CAT 4. Pressure was 958 milibars last read and as it nears the Florida Coast, the warm waters of the Gulf Strean may allow it to go CAT 4.

Living in Orlando, this is getting real old. I have had neigbors with $4-10,000 out of pocket expenses. I have been fortunate so far and hate to stretch my luck with another hurricane. One Orlando friend spent $11,000 out of pocket deductible on his main home and then will be assessed a huge amount on his heavily damaged condo on the beach. I have heard of others in the area with same problem since many have homes 40 mile seast of here on the beach.

People forget how close where are to the beach in Orlando. As you fly into Orlando approaching from the north, you can see (on a clear day) the Vehicle Assenbly Building at Cape Canaveral out your left window.

If any hurricane hit the Cocoa Beach, Merritt Island area on the right track, Orlando could get a direct hit not much different than being on the beach itself.


8 posted on 09/25/2004 3:43:45 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: BushCountry
People are just tired and not paying much attention to this one for some reason. I had a lot of co-workers leave on the last threat (Ivan), this one they are just saying, "the heck with it!"

Those reasons: 1] Jeanne has hung around a long time and has done that crazy cloverleaf loop routine. When it was headed out toward Europe at one point, we said good riddance--could not imagine it coming back. 2] It was just a tropical storm and after getting hit with CAT 4 and 3 hurricanes, this initally looked wimpy. We never though it would go CAT 3 or possibly CAT 4. 3] We are tired of this. Going without power for one hour is an immense hassle. Going without electric power for ten days is hell. Many are not taking this seriously because they are burnt out.

9 posted on 09/25/2004 3:50:57 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

I'm in St. Pete, and live only 10 minutes from the beach, but we're on the mainland and pretty high (level D evac).

So far we've been very fortunate in this county. Flooding in areas that are prone to flooding, but not much wind damage or structural damage.

Power woes, but hasn't everybody in the state had those, LOL!

Our 2 percent deduct would have us out of pocket for a new roof (our roof is only a year old), but I've heard horror stories about the deduct being recalculated on every storm and am feeling very sorry for those that have taken losses from more than one hurricane.

We just took our boards down last Saturday, if storm intensifies or track has this coming straight across the state, guess we'll put them back up.

We're fortunate in that the city finally picked up our 5 foot high pile of yard debris from Frances this past week.


10 posted on 09/25/2004 3:56:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
It has been tough -- direct hit from Charley (Port Charlotte area). We survived better than most, but this is getting real old. At least some people still have a sense of humor left. ";^)


11 posted on 09/25/2004 4:14:31 AM PDT by BushCountry
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
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Dont_Tread_On_Me_888


Going without power for one hour is an immense hassle. Going without electric power for ten days is hell. Many are not taking this seriously because they are burnt out.


I couldn't agree more.

I live here in Tampa (Clearwater) and went through Frnces about 10 days ago, but that included evacuating my ex-wife and four kids (teenagers) from Melbourne, where Frances was expected to hit dead-on as a Category Four.

Ex-wife and kids stayed almost a week, returning to their house with moderate foor damage, but with electric power and water. Many in Melbourne/Palm Bay went without power for almost a week.

Today (Saturday) I'll be buying window tape, fifty lbs of ice, D-batteries, candles (you know the drill) and driving to Melbourne (along with Coleman stove) to ride Jeanne out at the ex-wife and kids' house.

Jeanne may come ashore as a Category Three, but I almost don't care anymore. I'll be with my kids in case anything gets out of hand, which frankly, except for losing power, I don't expect.



Well ... to all in Jeanne's projected path, let's all have a great marquerita, and THEN stay safe.




Patton@Bastogne
Free Republic Member since 1998.



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12 posted on 09/25/2004 4:15:54 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: libtoken
Buried in the latest bulletin:

_____________

ATLANTIC PUBLIC/MARINE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE MESSAGES ISSUED IN THE LAST 6 HOURS

WTNT31 KNHC 250837
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
HURRICANE JEANNE ADVISORY NUMBER 47...CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT SAT SEP 25 2004

...CORRECTED TO ADD HEADLINE AND STORM TIDES ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...

~snip~

AT 5 AM EDT...0900Z...THE TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN EXTENDED NORTHWARD ALONG THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA TO THE OCHLOCKONEE RIVER. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS NOW IN EFFECT FROM SOUTH OF FLORIDA CITY AROUND THE SOUTHERN END OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA TO EAST CAPE SABLE...AND NORTH OF ANCLOTE KEY ALONG THE WEST COAST TO THE OCHLOCKONEE RIVER...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY...AND THE FLORIDA KEYS NORTH OF THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE.

WE ARE REMINDED THAT YOM KIPPUR...A SOLEMN JEWISH HOLIDAY...WILL LAST UNTIL SUNDOWN TODAY. SOME OF YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS IN THE WATCH AND WARNING AREAS OBSERVING YOM KIPPUR WILL NOT BE LISTENING TO RADIOS OR WATCHING TV...AND MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE HURRICANE SITUATION.

AT 5 AM EDT...0900Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JEANNE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.5 NORTH...LONGITUDE 76.2 WEST OR ABOUT 55 MILES...90 KM...EAST OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND IN THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS. THIS POSITION IS ALSO ABOUT 240 MILES...385 KM...EAST OF THE SOUTHEASTERN COAST OF FLORIDA.

~snip~

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 8 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 11 AM EDT.

FORECASTER BEVEN

13 posted on 09/25/2004 4:22:26 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Will we have Haiti in the US?HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
725 AM EDT SAT SEP 25 2004

...SPECIAL EVACUATION ADVICE FOR COASTAL EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA MEDIA OUTLETS PLEASE GIVE WIDEST DISSEMINATION... ...A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FROM FLORIDA CITY TO SAINT AUGUSTINE WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST...

...AREAS AFFECTED... THIS HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT RECOMMENDS ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN BY RESIDENTS OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES...VOLUSIA...BREVARD... INDIAN RIVER...SAINT LUCIE...AND MARTIN.

...WATCHES AND WARNINGS...
A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FLORIDA CITY TO SAINT AUGUSTINE...WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA COASTAL COUNTIES FROM MARTIN TO VOLUSIA. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE LIKELY FOR THESE LOCATIONS IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THE HURRICANE WARNING INCLUDES LAKE OKEECHOBEE.

...STORM INFORMATION...
AT 7 AM EDT...THE LARGE EYE OF HURRICANE JEANNE WAS LOCATED ABOUT 225 MILES EAST OF STUART FLORIDA. JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH. THE CURRENT FORECAST IS FOR A FLORIDA LANDFALL AS A MAJOR HURRICANE AROUND MIDNIGHT BETWEEN PALM BEACH AND COCOA BEACH.

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
WE ARE CONCERNED AFTER WATCHING SOME NEWS ACCOUNTS REGARDING RESIDENTS OF BARRIER ISLANDS WHO ARE PLANNING TO RIDE OUT HURRICANE JEANNE BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH HURRICANE FRANCES. WE HAVE DONE A DETAILED DAMAGE SURVEY OF THE COASTLINE OF THE IMPACT OF HURRICANE FRANCES...AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO REALIZE THAT THE WORST WIND AND STORM SURGE FROM FRANCES AFFECTED AN UNPOPULATED AREA OF HUTCHINSON ISLAND BETWEEN FORT PIERCE BEACH AND JENSEN BEACH AND NETTLES ISLAND. THE GREATEST IMPACT WAS FROM NEAR MIDDLE COVE BEACH ACCESS TO HERMAN'S BAY PARK. EVIDENCE OF BATTERING WAVES ON TOP OF STORM SURGE TO A HEIGHT OF 12 FEET OR GREATER...ALONG WITH EXTREME BEACH EROSION AND A BRIDGE FAILURE... WERE NOTED. IMPORTANTLY...PEOPLE LOCATED ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH END OF HUTCHINSON ISLAND DID NOT RECEIVE THE WORST OF THE IMPACTS OF FRANCES.

WE ALSO NOTED THAT VOLUSIA AND NORTHERN BREVARD COUNTY EXPERIENCED ONLY CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE EFFECTS FROM FRANCES. SOUTHERN BREVARD AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTIES EXPERIENCED CATEGORY ONE TO CATEGORY TWO IMPACTS WITH MARTIN AND ST LUCIE COUNTIES SOLIDLY WITHIN THE CATEGORY TWO IMPACT RANGE. TO BASE YOUR EVACUATION DECISION SOLELY ON YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES DURING FRANCES IS A MISTAKE.

JEANNE WILL LIKELY BE STRONGER...ESPECIALLY NEAR AND TO THE RIGHT OF WHERE THE INNER EYEWALL MAKES LANDFALL. AT THIS POINT IT IS STILL UNCERTAIN EXACTLY WHERE THIS AREA WILL BE. THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME THIS MORNING TO COMMIT TO EVACUATING AS ADVISED AND MOVE TO SAFETY.
WE HAVE MADE IT THROUGH CHARLEY AND FRANCES WITHOUT ANY DIRECT DEATHS FROM HURRICANE WIND OR WATER IMPACTS...PLEASE FOLLOW ADVICE OF YOUR COUNTY OFFICIALS AND LETS ALL MAKE IT THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

...NEXT UPDATE...
THE NEXT HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED AROUND NOON TODAY...OR SOONER IF CONDITIONS WARRANT.

HAGEMEYER


14 posted on 09/25/2004 4:41:16 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: libtoken

Hurricane Jeanne Intermediate Advisory Number 47a


Statement as of 8:00 am EDT on September 25, 2004



...Eye of Jeanne very near Marsh Harbor on abaco Island...

A Hurricane Warning is in effect along the Florida East Coast from
Florida City northward to St. Augustine...including Lake
Okeechobee. A Hurricane Warning is also in effect for the
northwestern Bahamas...including the Abacos...Andros Island...Berry
Islands...Bimini...Eleuthera...Grand Bahama Island...and New
Providence. Preparations to protect life and property throughout
the Hurricane Warning area should be rushed to completion.

A Hurricane Watch remains in effect for the northeast Florida and
Georgia coasts from north of St. Augustine to Altamaha Sound
Georgia.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect along the West Coast of
Florida from East Cape Sable northward to Anclote key. A Tropical
Storm Warning remains in effect for the central Bahamas...including
Cat Island...the Exumas...Long Island...Rum Cay...and San Salvador.

A tropical storm watch is now in effect from south of Florida City
around the southern end of the Florida Peninsula to East Cape
Sable...and north of Anclote key along the West Coast to the
Ochlockonee River...including Florida Bay...and the Florida Keys
north of the Seven Mile Bridge.

We are reminded that Yom Kippur...a solemn Jewish Holiday...will
last until Sundown today. Some of your Jewish neighbors in the
watch and warning areas observing Yom Kippur will not be
listening to radios or watching TV...and may not be aware of the
hurricane situation.

At 8 am EDT...1200z...the center of Hurricane Jeanne was located
by a reconnaissance plane near latitude 26.5 north...longitude 77.0
west just over marsh Harbour...abaco island in the northwestern
Bahamas. This position is also about 190 miles...310 km...east of
the southeastern coast of Florida.

Jeanne is moving toward the west near 14 mph...22 km/hr...and this
motion is expected to continue for the next 24 hours. On this
track...the core of Jeanne will be passing near or over the
remainder of the northwestern Bahamas later today...and approach
the southeastern coast of Florida tonight or early Sunday.
Hurricane force winds are expected to spread inland across much of
the Florida Peninsula.

Maximum sustained winds remain near 105 mph...165 km/hr...with
higher gusts. Strengthening is forecast during the next 24
hours...and Jeanne will likely become a major hurricane later
today.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 70 miles...110 km...
from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 205 miles...335 km. Marsh Harbor just reported sustained winds
of near 46 mph...74 km/hr and a pressure of near 963 mb...28.44
inches.

The latest minimum central pressure reported by the hurricane hunter
is 957 mb...28.26 inches.

Storm surge flooding of 4 to 8 feet above normal tide levels...along
with large and dangerous battering waves...can be expected near the
center of Jeanne on the north side of Grand Bahama Island and on
the west side of the abaco islands. Storm surge flooding of 2 to 4
feet above normal tide levels can be expected on the west side of
the other islands of the Bahamas in the Hurricane Warning area.

Coastal storm surge flooding of 4 to 6 feet above normal tide
levels...along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be
expected near and to the north of where the center makes landfall
along the Florida East Coast.

Tides of 1 to 2 feet above normal are possible in the warned area
along the Florida West Coast.

Rainfall totals of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated higher amounts
...Are possible along the track of Jeanne over the northwestern
Bahamas and Florida.

Dangerous surf and rip currents...caused by large swells generated
by Hurricane Jeanne...are possible elsewhere along the southeastern
U.S. Coast and the northwest and the Bahamas for the next few days.

Repeating the 8 am EDT position...26.5 N... 77.0 W. Movement
toward...west near 14 mph. Maximum sustained winds...105 mph.
Minimum central pressure... 957 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
11 am EDT.

Forecaster Avila


15 posted on 09/25/2004 4:48:26 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: dawn53

Here in Hudson (Pasco) looks like we are getting hurricane force, though not as bad as some others.

It looks like Frances, except Frances was really slow, so by the time it got here it had calmed down quite a bit and we only got TS force. Just the same, friends down the block lost their house because their roof came off.

This one is moving faster, so it should still be a hurricane by the time it gets here. Guess we are doing some shopping this am. I have a privacy fence and I keep worrying about losing it.

This is getting really old really fast.


16 posted on 09/25/2004 4:59:39 AM PDT by I still care (Proud member of the FR branch of the Pajama brigade.)
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To: I still care

bmp


17 posted on 09/25/2004 7:11:44 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: K1avg

New thread for today....ping your list please!! Thanks.


18 posted on 09/25/2004 7:15:56 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1226729/posts

This one is started already-


19 posted on 09/25/2004 7:17:52 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: shield

Living in Ft lauderdale I thought I was out of immediate danger until I saw this: http://weather.sun-sentinel.com/global/Region/g4/2xpxIRSatellite.html
Looks to me like it's now headed SW...opinions?


20 posted on 09/25/2004 7:19:17 AM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: dawn53

I thought FEMA would help out with those deducts?


21 posted on 09/25/2004 7:20:25 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: IYAAYAS

HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT...CORRECTED GLADES INFORMATION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
925 AM EDT SAT SEP 25 2004

...OUTER SQUALLS OF HURRICANE JEANNE ROTATING TOWARD THE SOUTH FLORIDA
COASTLINE...
...A DIRECT STRIKE ON SOUTH FLORIDA IS LIKELY...

...AREAS AFFECTED...
THIS STATEMENT APPLIES TO PALM BEACH...BROWARD...MIAMI-DADE...GLADES...
HENDRY...COLLIER...AND MAINLAND MONROE COUNTIES OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

(snip)

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
PALM BEACH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS HAVE ENACTED MANDATORY EVACUATIONS
IN ZONES A AND B INCLUDING ALL MOBILE HOMES AND ALL AREAS OUTSIDE LEVEE
PROTECTION ON LAKE OKEECHOBEE. SHELTERS ARE OPEN.

BROWARD COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS HAVE ENACTED MANDATORY EVACUATION
OF ZONES A AND B INCLUDING ALL MOBILE HOMES. SHELTERS ARE OPEN.

MIAMI-DADE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS HAVE ENACTED AN EVACUATION FOR
ZONE A INCLUDING ALL MOBILE HOMES. SHELTERS ARE OPEN.

GLADES COUNTY WILL ORDER AT 11 AM A MANDATORY EVACUATION OF MOBILE
HOMES IN THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTY INCLUDING BUCKHEAD RIDGE...
LAKEPORT...AND MOORE HAVEN. A VOLUNTARY EVACUATION OF MOBILE HOMES
IS IN EFFECT FOR THE WESTERN HALF OF GLADES COUNTY INCLUDING MUSE AND
ORTONA. SHELTERS WILL OPEN AT 2 PM.

HENDRY AND COLLIER COUNTIES WILL BE ANNOUNCING EVACUATION ORDERS AND
OPENING OF SHELTERS LATER TODAY. AT THE VERY LEAST EVACUATION OF MOBILE HOMES
WILL BE URGENTLY RECOMMENDED.
EVERGLADES AND BISCAYNE NATIONAL PARKS ARE CLOSED.

(snip)


22 posted on 09/25/2004 7:21:55 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: IYAAYAS

YUCK...man oh man....she looks like one bad girl to me.


23 posted on 09/25/2004 7:23:08 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: IYAAYAS

It looks like it's heading north, it might miss Florida after all.


24 posted on 09/25/2004 7:23:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Dog Gone

Where are you when your needed???


25 posted on 09/25/2004 7:23:50 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield
Oh I'm so confused! I pinged everyone to the 9/24 thread, and now there's two 9/25 threads?

I'm going with the one with more posts - here.

26 posted on 09/25/2004 7:24:08 AM PDT by K1avg
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To: libtoken

Sorry about that; I didnt see this one posted


27 posted on 09/25/2004 7:35:13 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: libtoken

Looking at Drudge you'd think they'd have created a new Cat 6 for this storm. When I saw that it was a Cat 2 I was actually stunned and thought I had misread.

I pray for those in it's path regardless.


28 posted on 09/25/2004 7:38:52 AM PDT by sharktrager (Nobody deserves our hostility when they are in a time of need.)
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To: dfwgator

Ya, now it looks like NW, they changed the loop since I posted. When I posted, the eye was moving SW now its NW.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, STUPID hurricanes. Anyone interested in some property?


29 posted on 09/25/2004 7:39:31 AM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: libtoken
Yet more Weather Channel Jim Cantore on-the-scene drama. Yet another hurricane ("packing" winds of x mph...).

If there had been a one-dollar tax every time the word "packing" has been used this year the budget deficit would be wiped out. ;)

30 posted on 09/25/2004 7:45:00 AM PDT by In_25_words_or_less (It's more a guideline than a rule.)
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To: In_25_words_or_less

Sorry for the caps...NHC must be cooking up a doozy of a discussion...

HURRICANE JEANNE FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 48
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112004
1500Z SAT SEP 25 2004

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM
FLORIDA CITY NORTHWARD TO ST. AUGUSTINE...INCLUDING LAKE
OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FOR THE
NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS...INCLUDING THE ABACOS...ANDROS ISLAND...BERRY
ISLANDS...BIMINI...ELEUTHERA...GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND...AND NEW
PROVIDENCE. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY IN THE
HURRICANE WARNING AREA SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

AT 11 AM EDT....1500Z...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR
FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND GEORGIA COASTS FROM NORTH OF ST.
AUGUSTINE NORTHWARD TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GEORGIA. A TROPICAL STORM
WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE NOW IN EFFECT FROM NORTH OF ST.
AUGUSTINE NORTHWARD TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GEORGIA.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE WATCHES AND WARNINGS FOR THE WEST COAST
OF FLORIDA ARE REVISED. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR
THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM EAST CAPE SABLE NORTHWARD TO THE
SUWANEE RIVER. A HURRICANE WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FROM ENGLEWOOD TO
THE SUWANEE RIVER.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL
BAHAMAS...INCLUDING CAT ISLAND...THE EXUMAS...LONG ISLAND...RUM
CAY...AND SAN SALVADOR.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM THE SUWANNE RIVER
NORTHWARD ALONG THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA TO THE OCHLOCKONEE RIVER
AND FROM SOUTH OF FLORIDA CITY AROUND THE SOUTHERN END OF THE
FLORIDA PENINSULA TO JUST SOUTH OF EAST CAPE SABLE INCLUDING
FLORIDA BAY...AND THE FLORIDA KEYS NORTH OF THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE.

HURRICANE CENTER LOCATED NEAR 26.6N 77.6W AT 25/1500Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 20 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE WEST OR 270 DEGREES AT 12 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 955 MB
EYE DIAMETER 30 NM
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 100 KT WITH GUSTS TO 120 KT.
64 KT....... 60NE 45SE 30SW 60NW.
50 KT.......100NE 70SE 50SW 90NW.
34 KT.......180NE 120SE 75SW 130NW.
12 FT SEAS..480NE 300SE 180SW 360NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 26.6N 77.6W AT 25/1500Z
AT 25/1200Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 26.5N 77.0W

FORECAST VALID 26/0000Z 27.0N 79.5W
MAX WIND 110 KT...GUSTS 135 KT.
64 KT... 60NE 45SE 30SW 60NW.
50 KT...100NE 70SE 50SW 90NW.
34 KT...180NE 120SE 75SW 130NW.

FORECAST VALID 26/1200Z 28.0N 81.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.
64 KT... 40NE 40SE 25SW 40NW.
50 KT...100NE 70SE 50SW 75NW.
34 KT...180NE 120SE 75SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 27/0000Z 29.5N 82.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT...130NE 120SE 75SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 27/1200Z 31.0N 83.0W...INLAND
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

FORECAST VALID 28/1200Z 35.0N 78.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 25 KT...GUSTS 35 KT.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 325 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 29/1200Z 40.0N 67.0W...OVER WATER
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 30/1200Z 46.0N 54.0W...OVER WATER
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 26.6N 77.6W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 25/2100Z

FORECASTER AVILA


31 posted on 09/25/2004 7:55:15 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: shield

In some counties they are, in some counties they aren't.


32 posted on 09/25/2004 9:53:50 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

Believe it or not, there is still debris that has yet to be picked up from Charlie in my area.

You can tell what hurrican the debris is from by the amount of decay. After Jeanne, we will have three colors of roadside debris.

lol

Gallows humor.


33 posted on 09/25/2004 12:40:55 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: dawn53

Believe it or not, there is still debris that has yet to be picked up from Charlie in my area.

You can tell what hurrican the debris is from by the amount of decay. After Jeanne, we will have three colors of roadside debris.

lol

Gallows humor.


34 posted on 09/25/2004 12:40:57 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: libtoken

The pressure has dropped to 950mb...this is going to probably drop a few millibars more. This is a dangerous and powerful storm. Hang tough...we survived Ivan here in Navarre bch. but it was a long, hectic night.


35 posted on 09/25/2004 2:03:56 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: libtoken
This hurricane season is not unprecedented.

The Dallas Morning News, 09/25/2004:
In 1886, 4 storms walloped Texas

36 posted on 09/25/2004 10:05:06 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: libtoken
This hurricane season is not unprecedented.

The Dallas Morning News, 09/25/2004:
In 1886, 4 storms walloped Texas

37 posted on 09/25/2004 10:05:42 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Well not argue but we've had 5 storms...Bonnie, Charlie, Francis, Ivan and Jeane.

Texas "114 years ago" had 2 Cat.2's, Cat.4 and a Cat.1.

Florida this year: 1 strong tropical storm, 2 Cat.4's, 1 Cat.3 and 1 Cat.2.

If this were poker, I'd say this is an unprecedented year.


38 posted on 09/26/2004 2:49:07 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: Shaka
If this were poker, I'd say this is an unprecedented year.

How could anybody know? The US only started keeping records in the late nineteenth century. 1886 was only 118 years ago. That's just a about half of a millionth of the time the Atlantic ocean has existed.

39 posted on 09/26/2004 2:59:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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