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Three Shiite Provinces Apply for Autonomy in Iraq
zaman.com ^

Posted on 09/27/2004 7:05:12 AM PDT by BigDoom

09.27.2004 Monday

Three Shiite Provinces Apply for Autonomy in Iraq

Three Shiite provinces under the control of British forces in southern Iraq followed the example of the Kurdish region in the north and applied to the Bagdat (Baghdad) administration in order to be recognized as an "autonomous territory".

The local administrators of Basra, Amara, and Nasiriye agreed that they wanted to unify and be granted autonomy. Basra Governor, Hasan Rasid reported that they sent their demands to interim Iraq Prime Minister Iyad Allawi. This development, confirmed also by the speaker of the parliament in Amara province, increases the disintegration anxieties of Iraq.

The State Administration Law approved by the Iraq Interim Government allows for the formation of autonomous regions by combining at least three provinces. However, Kerkuk (Kirkuk), due to a statute protecting its mixed ethnic makeup, and Baghdad, due to it being the capital, are not able to be included in any of the autonomous territories.

Suleymaniye, Erbil and Duhok provinces in northern Iraq compose the Kurdish Autonomous Territory. The Kurdish territory, having limited sources of income, reportedly intends to conquer Kirkuk in order to obtain its oil wealth.

Basra province, like Kirkuk, sits atop vast oil reserves of Iraq. Three million people live in the territory that is also home to Iraq's only seaport. Iraq Kurdistan Democratic Party (IKDP) leader Mesut Barzani's newspaper, Taakhi, endorsed the Shiites' initiative and called it a "righteous decision".

The developments are especially worrying to Iraqi Turkmen, who feel that the disintegration of Iraq has begun. The Iraq Interim Government will make the final decision on the matter in the upcoming days.

The provinces resisting against the coalition forces in Iraq will become isolated provided that the region controlled by the Shiites in southern Iraq obtains autonomy.


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KEYWORDS: basra; british; elections; iraq; napalminthemorning; oil; shiite; terror; war; wot
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1 posted on 09/27/2004 7:05:13 AM PDT by BigDoom
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To: BigDoom

Ruh roh. Lead to civil war?


2 posted on 09/27/2004 7:07:03 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: BigDoom

I smell Iran................


3 posted on 09/27/2004 7:07:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: BigDoom

What is zaman.com ? I think we're already at war with Iran and Syria, just nobody wants to play on their home turf so Iraq is the battleground.

If three Shi'a provinces secede, they go in the Iranian column. I agree with you, this cannot be allowed to happen.


4 posted on 09/27/2004 7:12:24 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: Communist Dupe? Or Do-gooder Idiot? You make the call.)
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To: BigDoom
Follow the money; follow the oil. Religion is just a cover, a story, a pretext.

The oil wealth is the birthright of every Iraqi

5 posted on 09/27/2004 7:14:35 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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Cool. Iraq should be partitioned.


6 posted on 09/27/2004 7:15:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: johnb838

"Cannot be allowed?" So much for the claim that this is a war for liberty, self-determination, and democracy.


7 posted on 09/27/2004 7:16:08 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: johnb838
What is zaman.com

Zaman, was established in 1986 by Feza Publications Inc. and based in Istanbul, is among top five national daily newspapers in Turkey with an average 400.000 circulation.
It's been the first Turkish daily newspaper online (http://www.zaman.com) since 1995
Zaman (translated 'time') has special international editions for 10 foreign countries predominantly printed in their own native alphabets and languages. Those countries include Australia, Azarbaijan, Bulgaria, Germany, Romania, Kazakhstan, Kyrghizstan, Macedonia, Turkmenistan and USA.
There are Zaman bureaus and correspondents in major world capitals and cities like Washington DC., New York, Brussels, Moscow, Jerusalem, Baku, Frankfurt, Ashkabad, Tashkent, and Bucharest.
In addition to Zaman, Feza Inc. owns Aksiyon (Action), a leading weekly news magazine and Bisiklet (Bicycle), a children's monthly and CHA, a major Turkish news agency.
As an independent daily newspaper, Zaman is acknowledged of its serious, fair and balanced reporting. It has won numerous national and international awards, especially for its modern page layout and contributions to inter-cultural understanding through its foreign editions.

A normaly friendly to US and Israel newspaper. News is real, also reported by Haarez and Al f**king Jazeera
8 posted on 09/27/2004 7:17:31 AM PDT by BigDoom
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To: BigDoom

In the long run, divide and conquer is the best strategy. "Iraq" is a figment of some bizarre, early 1900's, British imagination.

Maintaining membership in some conferacy of iraq is not a bad idea insofar as it lessons concerns of our Turkish ally.


9 posted on 09/27/2004 7:18:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: BigDoom
To be honest, there will never really be stability in Iraq if the different regions are expected to unify. Much as in Yugoslavia, these are groups that have never peacefully co-existed except when under the thumb of a tyrant.
10 posted on 09/27/2004 7:28:38 AM PDT by sharktrager (Nobody deserves our hostility when they are in a time of need.)
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To: BigDoom

I have no problem with it. The Kurds have done the same thing in the North. Iraq should be a federal republic to recognize and protect the rights of the various factions. If they are not included that way into the new Iraq, we will have another Yugoslavia, which broke apart painfully into several countries.


11 posted on 09/27/2004 7:39:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: BigDoom

Iraq was invented in 1920 by Winston Churchill.


12 posted on 09/27/2004 7:52:23 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: kabar

I've no problem with it right now, too. But in the end it's about an islamic Republic in the south, under iranien control and with sharia law. So, I will have a real big problem in the near future. Because that will never happen as long as we are in Iraq.


13 posted on 09/27/2004 7:54:45 AM PDT by BigDoom
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To: kman11
Oh, they got along...courtesy of the mass graves.

The fact is, as has happened whenever the west has tried to create a nation where one has not existed before, the result has been disastrous.

Look at Africa. The nations with constant violence are also those that were created despite a long history of warring tribes within the new borders.

There is a reason none of these "nations" existed prior to the last century.
15 posted on 09/27/2004 7:58:05 AM PDT by sharktrager (Nobody deserves our hostility when they are in a time of need.)
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To: BigDoom

But in the end it's about an islamic Republic in the south, under iranien control and with sharia law.

I serioiusly doubt that will be the case. Iraq remains a secular society regardless of the area of the country. Iranians are not arabs and I don't think they will have much influence in Iraq. The memories of the Iran-Iraq war remain.

16 posted on 09/27/2004 8:04:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Austin Willard Wright
"Cannot be allowed?" So much for the claim that this is a war for liberty, self-determination, and democracy.

Ohh!!! (Slaps forehead.) I see it all so clearly now. Our mideast policy has actually been secretly under the control of an anonymous FReeper, who has now outed himself so that we can for the first time clearly see what our national leaders' real motivations have been all along!

Thank you for finally enlightening me.

< / sarcasm>

17 posted on 09/27/2004 8:09:13 AM PDT by AB AB AB (Dan Rather: "I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things.")
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To: Austin Willard Wright
So much for the claim that this is a war for liberty, self-determination, and democracy.

Who made that claim?

18 posted on 09/27/2004 8:11:10 AM PDT by evad (You cannot proceed to a correct conclusion based on a false premise.)
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To: BigDoom
Guess its just "Three Shiite's to the wind" eh?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

19 posted on 09/27/2004 8:12:52 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: AB AB AB

And your view is....?


20 posted on 09/27/2004 8:15:13 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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