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Kelley, O'Neill Books Bashing Bush, Kerry Rate Unfit to Read (by Alan of Nerdland)
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 28, 2004 | Alan Murray

Posted on 09/28/2004 5:38:16 AM PDT by OESY

Next Sunday, Kitty Kelley's anti-Bush book, "The Family," will knock John O'Neill's Kerry-bashing book, "Unfit for Command," off the top spot on the New York Times best-seller list. Perhaps that's good news for the Kerry campaign. But it's more bad news for political discourse.

Both books are unfit to read. (I've read them both.) Mr. O'Neill's hatred for John Kerry, nurtured over three decades, oozes out of every page of "Unfit for Command" and makes it difficult to take the book seriously. Perhaps his account of what happened on the Bay Hap River -- he says Mr. Kerry "fled the scene" like a coward -- is more accurate than the account of Jim Rassmann, who says Mr. Kerry risked enemy fire to pull him out of the river and save his life. But I'm inclined to go with the guy in the water.

Kitty Kelley comes from a different litter, but no less foul. She isn't out to get George W. Bush. She just wants to sell books. In at least two previous books, she claimed her subjects had slept with Frank Sinatra. The Sinatra line doesn't work with President Bush, so she had to dig up different dirt -- such as the claim that first lady Laura Bush sold drugs in college.

Here's what Ms. Kelley writes in her book....

U.S. law makes it almost impossible for public figures like the Bushes to win a libel suit against a writer like Ms. Kelley. She risks little by passing on loose gossip.

Recent screw-ups at the New York Times, USA Today and now CBS News have cast a cloud over the "mainstream" media and its ability to serve as an effective filter for consumers of news. But without such a filter, anything goes. Let the reader beware.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; kittykelley; oneill; swiftvets; thefmily; unfitforcommand
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1 posted on 09/28/2004 5:38:16 AM PDT by OESY
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte

I wouldn't ordinarily post an article by Alan Murray, but this went way over the top into Fairyland, as it pertained to the Swift boat vets (and Hanoi Hilton POWs). This article is almost on par with recent screw-ups at the New York Times, USA Today and now CBS News that Murray cites.

Murray's lament that the MSM is losing ground and not serving as effectively to screen out news considered harmful to Kerry and other Democrats is predictable but, with the MSM, "everything went" for too long. Finally, the MSM and Murray are coming under effective public scrutiny.

The reader, always wary, can now find alternative views, many of which are less distorting of reality than the personal biases of Murray, Al Hunt, John Harwood and Jeanne Cummings, just to name a few at the Washington Bureau of the Wall Street Journal, that serve to "filter" their reporting.


2 posted on 09/28/2004 5:39:26 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

The interesting thing is that while Bush has been denouncing the Swiftboat group, Kerry has been embracing the nutcases who trash Bush, and has even engaged in some of that himself.


3 posted on 09/28/2004 5:40:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

W denounced ALL 527 ads, sKerry only denounced the one - that may have been done just so he could come out against it.


4 posted on 09/28/2004 5:43:36 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: OESY
But I'm inclined to go with the guy in the water.

Okay...which version would that be Alan?

5 posted on 09/28/2004 5:43:45 AM PDT by bluecollarman (And the 4 mos that he served, Had shattered all his nerves,And left a little rice grain in his ass.)
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To: OESY

So the JFKerry campaign and their 527 CBS plan to respond to the Swift Boats Vets, by faking documents about President Bush is working.


6 posted on 09/28/2004 5:46:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: OESY

I have been watching Alan Murray and Gloria Borger on CNBC for years. They are both not wrapped too tight and are lock-step shrills for the "traitor" Democrat Party. Murray doesn't have a clue. Right now Kitty Kelley's book is flushing down the toilet on the Amazon.com best seller list. She had her fifteen minutes of fame and is now history. THE SBVs book held the number one title for Five weeks, is still selling srong and has sold over 400,000 copies. Mr. Murray, let me say, the American public sees through your little game. Get real!!!


7 posted on 09/28/2004 5:48:29 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I am amazed that this guy finds something extraordinary about the Swiftees having a "hatred" for Kerry. After what Kerry did to make life for all Viet Nam Veterans a living hell, as well being the cause of more people dying and being tortured while stll in VN, I think "hatred" is a pretty tame emotion for them to have.

Now---what is Kitty Litter's beef with the Bush's? To try to make a comparision between these two books is luldicrous!

8 posted on 09/28/2004 6:05:42 AM PDT by basil
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To: OESY
Recent screw-ups at the New York Times, USA Today and now CBS News have cast a cloud over the "mainstream" media and its ability to serve as an effective filter for consumers of news. But without such a filter, anything goes.
The definition of "sheeple" is "people who trust the loudest voice to be the most reasonable."

The writer's position is that "the truth lies in the middle" between Kitty Kelly's hit on Bush and O'Neil's criticism of Kerry. That is an idle assumption enabling the author to position himself as being above both of those two authors. But Kelly is well known for doing hit pieces on Republicans, and O'Neil isn't even a Republican.

But don't pay attention to the fact that O'Neil writes from personal experience and Kelly is just using anonymous sources; "the truth lies in the middle" allows you to be smugly superior to the man who has painful first-hand experience. </sarcasm>


9 posted on 09/28/2004 6:08:16 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: OESY

John Fraud Kerry
North Viet Nam War Hero
American Traitor


10 posted on 09/28/2004 6:10:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: OESY

Re. Alan Murray: He who does not open his eyes can not see.


11 posted on 09/28/2004 6:21:18 AM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, XO USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: OESY
Mr. O'Neill's hatred for John Kerry, nurtured over three decades, oozes out of every page of "Unfit for Command" and makes it difficult to take the book seriously.

If his grudge is three decades' old, then he can hardly be called a mere tool of the Bush campaign.

12 posted on 09/28/2004 6:31:47 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: OESY
Mr. O'Neill's hatred for John Kerry, nurtured over three decades, oozes out of every page of "Unfit for Command" and makes it difficult to take the book seriously.

I'm sorry Murray, but I didn't see it that way. In fact, the book is extremely believable, as is Mr. O'Neill.

13 posted on 09/28/2004 6:45:41 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: OESY
This is asinine. Nothing in Unfit For Command has been refuted. In fact there have been no attempts by Kerry to refute it. In fact he avoided the media for over a month after it came out. To compare a gossip book with a documented work like Unfit For Command is, again, asinine, though surely deliberate.

Unfit for Command still has not been reviewed, to my knowledge, by the NY Times or the Washington Post, despite being on top of the bestseller lists. That says plenty.

David Broder in his column today, ironically moaning about the drop in respect for the media particularly because of Rather, accuses the Swift Vets of "scurrilous" attacks on Kerry. He of course does not mention a single instance in which the SwiftVets are mistaken. He does not even, not surprising, mention a single SwiftVets charge - because the charges are all eminently true.

There is a fevered, organized campaign among the Rats and their brothers and sisters (in hate) in the media to discredit the SwiftVets and all veterans opposed to Kerry. Broder revealed today, 28 Sept, the inner self of someone who has always promoted himself as a "reasonable" journalistic professional - but whose core is that of a whore.
14 posted on 09/28/2004 7:34:41 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: OESY
This is asinine. Nothing in Unfit For Command has been refuted. In fact there have been no attempts by Kerry to refute it. In fact he avoided the media for over a month after it came out. To compare a gossip book with a documented work like Unfit For Command is, again, asinine, though surely deliberate.

Unfit for Command still has not been reviewed, to my knowledge, by the NY Times or the Washington Post, despite being on top of the bestseller lists. That says plenty.

David Broder in his column today, ironically moaning about the drop in respect for the media particularly because of Rather, accuses the Swift Vets of "scurrilous" attacks on Kerry. He of course does not mention a single instance in which the SwiftVets are mistaken. He does not even, not surprising, mention a single SwiftVets charge - because the charges are all eminently true.

There is a fevered, organized campaign among the Rats and their brothers and sisters (in hate) in the media to discredit the SwiftVets and all veterans opposed to Kerry. Broder revealed today, 28 Sept, the inner self of someone who has always promoted himself as a "reasonable" journalistic professional - but whose core is that of a whore.
15 posted on 09/28/2004 7:35:08 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: mtntop3
"But from my own first-hand experience cross-examining John O'Neill under oath, I can say that I fully believe that John O'Neill fully believes what he's saying — and that he's a damned credible witness in my opinion." -- Beldar

Source: A Cross-Examination of O'Neill

16 posted on 09/28/2004 8:15:52 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
Kitty Kelley comes from a different litter, but no less foul. She isn't out to get George W. Bush. She just wants to sell books.

That's right. She just happened to finish the book a month before the Presidential election.
17 posted on 09/28/2004 8:17:35 AM PDT by uncitizen (This is war, not a garden party!)
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To: mtntop3
"But on none of these issues I've just listed have the SwiftVets' allegations been "debunked" or proven "unsubstantiated." Andrew Sullivan or the NYT repeating over and over that they have been simply don't make them so. To employ the legal jargon of summary judgment proceedings, a rational factfinder could conclude from the evidence that the SwiftVets have produced on each of these allegations that, indeed, they're true." -- Beldar

A challenge to those who claim that the SwiftVets' allegations have been "debunked" or are "unsubstantiated"

18 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:42 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
Perhaps his account of what happened on the Bay Hap River -- he says Mr. Kerry "fled the scene" like a coward -- is more accurate than the account of Jim Rassmann, who says Mr. Kerry risked enemy fire to pull him out of the river and save his life. But I'm inclined to go with the guy in the water.

Who has the most situational awareness of the details of a military engagemet?

A. The boat commander on the bridge of his boat in the immediate area.

B. The man who, by his own account, spent as much time diving under water as his aerobic capacity would allow once he fell overboard.

C. The newspaper writer.

I'm inclined to go with A.

19 posted on 09/28/2004 8:28:52 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius; mtntop3

Clueless in D.C.

This piece by David Broder of the Washington Post, "The Media, Losing Their Way," couldn't be more clueless if Richard Cohen had written it. Broder starts off on solid ground. He observes that "the American news media have been clobbered" in this election cycle, and he admits his "shame and embarrassment at our performance." It is when he tries to analyze why the media has became such an embarrassment that Broder quickly loses the plot.

Broder thinks that the main culprits are (I kid you not) cable news networks, bloggers, and the influx of "political stars" into traditional television news organizations. With so much sensationalized information being doled out by people lacking credentials in journalism, it is no wonder that "old pros such as Dan Rather and former New York Times editor Howell Raines got caught up in this fevered atmosphere and let their standards slip." It never occurs to Broder that bias may have played at least a bit part in the MSM's self-destructive conduct. Or that the rise of cable news networks and serious blogs (none of whom seems to have up screwed up the way Rather did) is the effect of the MSM's lack of responsibility, rather than its cause. Yet these are easily the most plausible explanations for the phenomena Broder decries. Consider this passage:

"Time was when any outfit such as Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that came around peddling an ad with implausible charges would have run into a hard-nosed reporter whose first questions -- before he or she ran with the story -- would have been, 'Who the hell are you guys? What's your angle? What's your proof?' Any Texan with a grudge against George Bush and the National Guard who suddenly produced a purported photocopy of an explosive 30-year-old order signed by a dead man would have been treated with the deep distrust he deserved by the reporters to whom he offered his wares. And no professional journalist would have made a call to the Kerry campaign encouraging a flack to contact this dubious source."

But the reason why no hard-nosed reporter challenged the Swiftvets was not the existence of cable news or bloggers. If the old media were really under great pressure to compete with these sources, their representatives would have been all over the Swiftvets. No, the reason why the MSM didn't jump on this story (as we predicted they wouldn't) is because they thought it was in John Kerry's interest to let the story die. Only when it became clear that this wouldn't happen did the Washington Post make a run at discrediting the Swiftvets allegations. The reason why the Post and others didn't get further in this endeavor is because most of the allegations have held up.

Broder's discussion of the CBS story also contains its own refutation of his broader thesis. Broder is horrified that the network called the Kerry campaign to encourage it to contact Rather's source. This clearly is not the fault of cable news organizations and bloggers. Nor does Broder provide any reason to believe that it had to do with the presence of "political stars" at CBS. How can Broder overlook the most obvious explanation for CBS's contact with the Kerry campaign -- that the two share a common objective?

Broder is an honest journalist -- one of the "adults" of the MSM. But when the adults are this clueless, they cannot serve their adult function. That's one of the reasons why school has been out at institutions like the Washington Post for years.

Posted by deacon (source: http://www.powerlineblog.com)


20 posted on 09/28/2004 11:06:38 AM PDT by OESY
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