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I loathe America, and what it has done to the rest of the world
opinion.telegraph.co.uk ^ | Margaret Drabble

Posted on 09/28/2004 3:03:45 PM PDT by kcvl

I loathe America, and what it has done to the rest of the world By Margaret Drabble (Filed: 08/05/2003)

I knew that the wave of anti-Americanism that would swell up after the Iraq war would make me feel ill. And it has. It has made me much, much more ill than I had expected.

My anti-Americanism has become almost uncontrollable. It has possessed me, like a disease. It rises up in my throat like acid reflux, that fashionable American sickness. I now loathe the United States and what it has done to Iraq and the rest of the helpless world.

I can hardly bear to see the faces of Bush and Rumsfeld, or to watch their posturing body language, or to hear their self-satisfied and incoherent platitudes. The liberal press here has done its best to make them appear ridiculous, but these two men are not funny.

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There, I have said it. I have tried to control my anti-Americanism, remembering the many Americans that I know and respect, but I can't keep it down any longer. I detest Disneyfication, I detest Coca-Cola, I detest burgers, I detest sentimental and violent Hollywood movies that tell lies about history.

I detest American imperialism, American infantilism, and American triumphalism about victories it didn't even win.


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John Gibson just talked about this person coming to the United States to promote something...
1 posted on 09/28/2004 3:03:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

"Margaret Drabble" -- what a fitting name.


2 posted on 09/28/2004 3:04:36 PM PDT by paulklenk (Blue Fairy, please make Dan Rather a real boy!)
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To: kcvl

The author is mentally ill.


3 posted on 09/28/2004 3:05:17 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: kcvl

Just saw the show, we need to FReep her tour from start to finish. I think rotten veggies are in order ;).


4 posted on 09/28/2004 3:05:24 PM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: tomahawk

America uses the word "democracy" as its battle cry, and its nervous soldiers gun down Iraqi civilians when they try to hold street demonstrations to protest against the invasion of their country. So much for democracy. (At least the British Army is better trained.)

America is one of the few countries in the world that executes minors. Well, it doesn't really execute them - it just keeps them in jail for years and years until they are old enough to execute, and then it executes them. It administers drugs to mentally disturbed prisoners on Death Row until they are back in their right mind, and then it executes them, too.

They call this justice and the rule of law. America is holding more than 600 people in detention in Guantánamo Bay, indefinitely, and it may well hold them there for ever. Guantánamo Bay has become the Bastille of America. They call this serving the cause of democracy and freedom.

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We have seen enough boots in the past few months to last us a lifetime. Iraqi boots, American boots, British boots. Enough of boots.

I hate feeling this hatred. I have to keep reminding myself that if Bush hadn't been (so narrowly) elected, we wouldn't be here, and none of this would have happened. There is another America. Long live the other America, and may this one pass away soon.


5 posted on 09/28/2004 3:06:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Poor baby. She should have a nice cup of STFU!


6 posted on 09/28/2004 3:06:03 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: kcvl

Does anyone have that picture of how to tie a noose that this idiot can study?


7 posted on 09/28/2004 3:06:11 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: kcvl
John Gibson just talked about this person coming to the United States to promote something...

Probably this --->

8 posted on 09/28/2004 3:06:26 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: paulklenk

Margaret Drabble-okay, someone with photoshop skills...Michael Moore in drag--no wait, that's Helen Thomas!


9 posted on 09/28/2004 3:06:27 PM PDT by Dutchgirl (FreeRepublic !! The best pajama/ cocktail party on earth!!)
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To: kcvl
Others have written eloquently about the euphemistic and affectionate names that the Americans give to their weapons of mass destruction: Big Boy, Little Boy, Daisy Cutter, and so forth.

We are accustomed to these sobriquets; to phrases such as "collateral damage" and "friendly fire" and "pre-emptive strikes". We have almost ceased to notice when suicide bombers are described as "cowards". The abuse of language is part of warfare. Long ago, Voltaire told us that we invent words to conceal truths. More recently, Orwell pointed out to us the dangers of Newspeak.

But there was something about those playfully grinning warplane faces that went beyond deception and distortion into the land of madness. A nation that can allow those faces to be painted as an image on its national aeroplanes has regressed into unimaginable irresponsibility. A nation that can paint those faces on death machines must be insane.

Ummmm... correct me if I'm wrong, but painting characters on warplanes, dates back at least as far as WWII, and is not a uniquely American custom.

10 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:01 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: kcvl
I loathe America, and what it has done to the rest of the world...

Like stopping Nazism, Communism and a host of other totalitarian states, eh? Margaret, my dearest Useful Idiot, if it wasn't for the U.S., you'd have been raised as the Hitler Youth and would be executed for expressing any opinion contrary to the State. Such is not the case. You're welcome.

I detest American imperialism, American infantilism, and American triumphalism about victories it didn't even win.

If America were truly "imperialist," then we'd count Germany, Holland, France, Japan and North Africa among our states in the union. Get over your rabid anti-Americanism, you silly insignificant chimp.

11 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:04 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: kcvl
Dear Ms. Dribble,


12 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:16 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........nobody knows how to lose a game like the Niners............)
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To: kcvl

I suppose she detested Winston Churchill.


13 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:23 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: kcvl

I imagine she also despises that America saved her nation from ruin in WWII.

Ingrate bitch.


14 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:38 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Democrat big government is unconstitutional; Republican big government is "compassion")
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To: kcvl
What you really loathe, Margaret Drabble, is that there isn't one damn thing you can do about it. Not one.

But you can always try. Bring it on.

15 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:38 PM PDT by StoneFury (The only thing hippies understand is the fist)
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To: kcvl

Probably she loathes America because, so far, we have been a pretty good demostration that the free market works infinitely better than socialism.


16 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:00 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: kcvl

Harpie Queen sounds like a very sad and lonely woman.


17 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:05 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (" Condition: Grounded, but determined to try....")
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To: kcvl

I read this rant months ago, it is an old one.


18 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:18 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: tomahawk

The net really does let you see how many truly insane people there are out there.


19 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:22 PM PDT by Kornev
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To: KantianBurke
Special Message for Ms. Drabble!


20 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:25 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: kcvl


Margaret Drabble.
21 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:32 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: kcvl
Margie, look at yourself:


22 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:34 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: kcvl
But there was something about those playfully grinning warplane faces that went beyond deception and distortion into the land of madness. A nation that can allow those faces to be painted as an image on its national aeroplanes has regressed into unimaginable irresponsibility. A nation that can paint those faces on death machines must be insane.

Uhh, hasn't she ever seen pictures of American (and as far as I know British) WWII warbirds?

24 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:35 PM PDT by Restorer (They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
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"My anti-Americanism has become almost uncontrollable. It has possessed me, like a disease. It rises up in my throat like acid reflux, that fashionable American sickness. I now loathe the United States and what it has done to Iraq and the rest of the helpless world."

Drivel...She needs her meds.


25 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:38 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: kcvl

And I detest your terribly effective straitjackets,
and I detest the taste of your Crayola crayons
which I use to write my columns on this padded wall...


26 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:42 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: kcvl
Thought this was another *Crinton memoir excerpt.

It has made me much, much more ill than I had expected.

I was kinda concerned - up until then...

27 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:54 PM PDT by Libloather (911th Internet Reconnaissance Brigade - Jammie Commando Battalion)
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To: kcvl

my word I just heard him talking about her.....thats whats wrong in America to me.....anti america haters, encouraged by all the Liberal BS about how bad America is...Michael Moore and his ilk going all over the world saying this and yet they are embraced and "loved" and treated like "royalty" by the Demons...
whoever has her on their book tour, needs to cancel it.....show her if she loathes america so much, well what goes around comes around.....BUT IT NEVER HAPPENS


28 posted on 09/28/2004 3:08:55 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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30 posted on 09/28/2004 3:09:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("let them go naked for a while"...Theraaazaaaaa Heinz-Kerry)
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To: kcvl
I now loathe the United States and what it has done to Iraq and the rest of the helpless world.

Useless Idiot Alert

31 posted on 09/28/2004 3:09:18 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: StoneColdGOP
Not in my name, I want to keep repeating, though I don't suppose anybody will listen.

Hm? I'm sorry, did you say something?

32 posted on 09/28/2004 3:09:22 PM PDT by TheBigB (Terrorists aren't afraid of "nuance.")
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To: kcvl

Margaret Drabble, you make me ill


33 posted on 09/28/2004 3:09:38 PM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Rastus

Taco smacker.


34 posted on 09/28/2004 3:09:44 PM PDT by mattdono (Chris Matthew is Zell Miller's b*tch! (and the MSM is FR's b*tch!))
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To: redhead_pt

Go off yourself moron.


35 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:05 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: kcvl
I detest American imperialism, American infantilism, and American triumphalism about victories it didn't even win.

You should be more concerned about dental hygiene and those rotting buckteeth so many of your countrymen are afflicted with, you diseased old troll.
36 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:10 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (President Kerry - - there, scared ya didn't I?)
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To: bikepacker67

Beat me to it!


37 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:10 PM PDT by Restorer (They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
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To: kcvl

As Judge Judy says, No good deed goes unpunished.

America saved her or her parents, either way it goes back to her, from being a lampshade on Hitler's mantle and this is what america gets.


38 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:17 PM PDT by sport
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To: kcvl

39 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:20 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Rastus

I woke up in love this morning,
I woke up in love this morning....

40 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:22 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: kcvl

Nut case. Intercept the aircraft and return her to Heathrow for questioning by Scotland Yard.


41 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:36 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Camel Joe

The Red Queen, by Margaret Drabble (Harcourt). An Oxford student mysteriously receives a 200-year-old memoir by a Korean crown princess, just before she makes a trip to Seoul.

http://www.redmood.com/drabble/



Margaret Drabble was born June 5, 1939 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England.

Her father, John Frederick Drabble, was a barrister, a county court judge and a novelist. Author A.S. Byatt is her older sister.

She attended the Mount School, York, a Quaker boarding-school and was awarded a major scholarship to Newnham College, Cambridge, where she read English and received double honors (a "starred first"). After being graduated from Cambridge University, she joined the Royal Shakespeare Company at Stratford during which time she understudied for Vanessa Redgrave.

In 1960 she married her first husband, actor Clive Swift, who is best known for his role in the 1990 BBC television comedy "Keeping Up Appearances." They had three children in the 1960's and divorced in 1975.

She subsequently married the biographer Michael Holroyd in the early 1980's. They live in London and also have a house in Somerset.

Her novel The Millstone won the John Llewelyn Rhys Prize and she was the recipient of a Society of Author's Travelling Fellowship in the mid-1960's. She also received the James Tait Black and the E.M. Forster awards and was awarded the CBE in 1980

She is often described as being the author one should read to get a clear view of what it's like to live in England. This is true not only because of her non-fiction books "For Queen and Country" and "A Writer's Britain" but also for her novels. The English personalities of her characters are tangible in her novels which, through the decades, have also reflected the dramatic political, economic and social changes that have taken place in Great Britain.

Her newest novel is The Seven Sisters.


42 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:42 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: redhead_pt; mhking; Zavien Doombringer

Kitties...


43 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:03 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: kcvl
I detest sentimental and violent Hollywood movies that tell lies about history.

This one's in your court, Hollywood.

44 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:10 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: kcvl

Pathetic.


45 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:14 PM PDT by Buford T. Justice
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To: kcvl


"She must be from your mother's side of the family."
46 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:16 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: redhead_pt

Margaret Drabble and redhead_pt, you both are sickening..


47 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:18 PM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: kcvl
Like I said on another thread...

Putin's recent power-grab might not be a bad thing.

Nothing like a dose of totalitarianism on their Eastern front to remind the EuroTrash who provides the balancing muscle in the equation.

48 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:33 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: kcvl

Miss Drabble, I can't help but notice that you wrote this in English, rather than the German that "the other America" would have left you all speaking.


49 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:44 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: John Lenin

I hope she will take John Gisons challenge to come on his show and talk about her loooathing of america....and invite some good americans to have at her...


50 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:47 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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