[martin_fierro]

Crone's Disease sufferer.

[afnamvet]

A good read.

I am disabled permanently from Crohn's. There is no cure. I have endured five major surgeries and may be looking at another. If you have or know someone who has this disease, tell them to gather ALL the information they can.

[Carry_Okie]

There is a far more prevalent incidence of irritable bowel syndrome in the US than there is of Crohn's disease. I wonder if it has the same cause?

[Carry_Okie]

More evidence to confirm the theory.

[Bikers4Bush]

Bump for later.

[ikka]

Unfortunately, contaminated milk is not the only avenue of infection. Eventually, even factory farm cows become too sick to be useful. These cows are culled from the herds, slaughtered and made into hamburger, which is also sold in stores. Sadly, the same process which contaminates milk, also contaminates meat.

Another reason that confimrs my decision to rarely buy hamburger or other ground-meat products. Best to have it all in one piece, and smart shopping means you can buy cheap cuts for only $1 more per lb. than hamburger.

[jimtorr]

I know someone with Chrohns. She grew up on a dairy farm. Coincidence? I'll forward this article to her.

[Little Ray]

So why doesn't pasturizing kill the bacteria? That's the point, right?

[aruanan]

Crohn's was unknown until the early 1900s when two very similar diseases were described: one in domestic animals called Johne's disease and one in humans named after the physician who first wrote about it, Dr. Burrill Crohn.

And, of course, in the days before pasteurization when people drank milk pretty much directly from cows, everything was hunky dory.

But what makes it unimaginably worse is compelling research, mostly from Europe, which reveals this horrible disease is not autoimmune at all.

Compelling evidence links Crohn's disease with Mycobacteria paratuberculosis.

And almost all people who get cancer have eaten butter. There's a lot more going on than just the presence or absence of bacteria and a lot of the disease lies in the susceptibility of the individual rather than in the extrinsic agent. Everybody is exposed to pathogens on a constant, daily basis. Only a relative few will be killed by this exposure.

Here's some of that "compelling" research from Europe:

 
Bacterial DNA within granulomas of patients with Crohn's disease--detection by laser capture microdissection and PCR.

Ryan P, Kelly RG, Lee G, Collins JK, O'Sullivan GC, O'Connell J, Shanahan F.

Alimentary Pharmabiotic Centre; and Departments of Medicine, Histopathology, Microbiology, and Surgery, University College Cork, National University of Ireland, Ireland.

OBJECTIVES: We previously reported the use of laser capture microdissection (LCM) and PCR to detect the presence of Mycobacterium paratuberculosis DNA in granulomas of patients with Crohn's disease. While this does not imply a cause-effect relationship, it may influence the disease process because bacterial DNA has immunomodulatory effects. The aim of this study was to determine whether DNA from nonmycobacterial commensals, such as Escherichia coli, is also increased in the granulomas of Crohn's disease. METHODS: Archival tissue from 15 surgical cases of Crohn's disease and 10 non-Crohn's granulomatous bowel disease controls were examined. Granulomas were isolated using LCM, and the extracted DNA was examined for presence of E. coli DNA by nested PCR amplification of a 135 base-pair segment of the uidA gene. RESULTS: E. coli DNA was detected in microdissected granulomas in 12/15 Crohn's disease patients and in 1/10 non-Crohn's control granulomas (p < 0.001). Also, E. coli DNA was detected in 8/15 Crohn's full-thickness sections and in 4/10 control full-thickness sections. CONCLUSIONS: E. coli DNA may be detected more frequently in Crohn's granulomas than in other non-Crohn's bowel granulomas. This may indicate a tendency for lumenal bacteria to colonize inflamed tissue, or may be due to increased uptake of bacterial DNA by gut antigen presenting cells. In light of previous detection of M. paratuberculosis DNA in Crohn's granulomas, the nonspecific nature of the type of bacterial DNA present in granulomas is evidence against any one bacterium having a significant causative role in Crohn's disease. Copyright 2004 American College of Gastroenterology

PMID: 15307874 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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[ellery]

Thank you for this article. My brother suffered from Crohn's...it's an awful disease.

[Cold Heart]

I'm not in a position to dispute a single claim made in this article, however there is an organized effort afoot to kill the dairy and beef industry. The anti-milk group bounces from one claim to another hoping to discredit milk.
I don't know if this is one of those claims or not but in the past it has been their claims that have been discredited.

[Cold Heart]

I'm not in a position to dispute a single claim made in this article, however there is an organized effort afoot to kill the dairy and beef industry. The anti-milk group bounces from one claim to another hoping to discredit milk.
I don't know if this is one of those claims or not but in the past it has been their claims that have been discredited.

[cyborg]

Milk consumption is totally unnecessary for maintaining a quality life.

[manic4organic]

Try organic milk. (donning flame suit)

[cyborg]

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[ZULU]

If this is the case, even non-milk drinkers are in danger. Cow manure is widely used as a fertilizer for vegetables and cow by-products used in cat and dog foods.

[diamond6]

Are there any dairies out there that are vigilant in protecting their cows from this disease? Being an avid milk drinker, I'd sure like to know.

[Tribune7]

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[Calpernia]

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