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Kerry: No comment
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 10/3/04 | Dateline D.C.

Posted on 10/03/2004 8:13:03 AM PDT by Jean S

Should you wish to be a fully-fledged member of an anti-American support groups at the United Nations in New York you must hate George W. Bush, love John Kerry and be rich. To be both a member and a leader, you need to be unimaginably rich.

During September, one such person -- the "Red Queen of Peace" -- was roaming the U.N. corridors as she has done for the past 36 years. It was Mrs. Cora Weiss, daughter of the late Faberge Fragrances millionaire and friend to the Soviets, Samuel Rubin. Paraphrasing Shakespeare, age has not withered her, nor custom soured her variety. She presents a facade untouched by serious thought, hence her support for John Forbes Kerry.

The Weiss wealth is fortunate for her friends as she has helped many of them (and Kerry's friends) fund projects by way of the Samuel Rubin Foundation, of which she is president. There is Washington's Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), the Geneva-based International Peace Bureau, the Peace Action Network and its related Student Peace Action Network, and the New York-based Hague Appeal for Peace (HAP). Cora Weiss has been director of disarmament programs of Riverside Church and is the founder of Women Strike for Peace, a group that never questioned its Soviet masters.

Not content with merely funding such groups, she is the Marxist hatchet-lady who combines membership in the influential Council on Foreign Relations with being boss-woman of the Peace Action Bureau and the Hague Appeal.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coliafam; colifam; communism; coraweiss; hanoijohn; ips; kerry; marxists; napalminthemorning; peaceactionnetwork; peterweiss; redqueenofpeace; riversidechurch; socialistsforkerry; wot; wsp

1 posted on 10/03/2004 8:13:03 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: bitt

'Kerry refuses any and all comments about his activities, including an alleged spanking of Julia Thorne, with Teddy Kennedy as a witness.'

WHAT'S THIS?????


3 posted on 10/03/2004 8:16:45 AM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt
-- as under Catholic rules it would affect the legitimacy of their two daughters.

IANAC but, as I understand the "rules", this statement is a crock.

4 posted on 10/03/2004 8:21:50 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

you are right - it has nothing to do with the legitimacy of his 2 daughters.

it has everything to do with appearances for him, to say that he 'got' an anullment.


5 posted on 10/03/2004 8:43:15 AM PDT by bitt
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To: JeanS
"For his second marriage, to Teresa Heinz, Kerry sought an annulment from the Catholic Church for his marriage to Julia, which she bitterly fought -- as under Catholic rules it would affect the legitimacy of their two daughters."

This "illegitimacy of the children" argument is a bogus one with which some liberal 'Catholics' have used to assail classical Catholic teaching on divorce. The Catholic Church does not recognize divorce, (the marriage must be declared 'null' by the Church, meaning there was a serious theological-canonical impediment to the marriage rendering it invalid). But annulments in NO WAY render the children of these parents 'illegitimate'. All people are created by God, in His image and likeness, not by man. Nothing God creates is 'illegitimate'.

Below is an official Catholic explanation of the question of 'illigitiamcy' regarding children of Catholics who have had their marriage declared null, (anullment).

Does an annulment make the children illegitimate?

"No. The parents, now divorced, presumably once obtained a civil license and entered upon a legal marriage. Children from that union are, therefore, their legitimate offspring. Legitimate means “legal.” The civil divorce and the Church annulment do not alter this situation. Nor do they change the parents’ responsibility toward the children. In fact, during annulment procedures the Church reminds petitioners of their moral obligation to provide for the proper upbringing of their children."

Fr. Joseph Champlin ~ Imprimatur from Archdiocese of Cincinnati

6 posted on 10/03/2004 9:02:21 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: Bob

I'm a Catholic but you are right that per the rules Kerry's annulment doesn't affect his daughters legitimacy.

However in the general public's perception and especially to non-Catholics it seems to indicate otherwise. His asking for an anullment for his marriage to the mother of his children is still a cold, cold thing for a father to do, especially since the only motivation was more $$$ for him.


7 posted on 10/03/2004 9:24:12 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: JeanS

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!


8 posted on 10/03/2004 9:24:29 AM PDT by petercooper (Everything I ever needed to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: bitt
'Kerry refuses any and all comments about his activities, including an alleged spanking of Julia Thorne, with Teddy Kennedy as a witness.'
WHAT'S THIS???

Kerry: Thank you sir may I have another

9 posted on 10/03/2004 9:26:12 AM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: JeanS

I like the title.


10 posted on 10/03/2004 9:31:05 AM PDT by Tealc
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To: JeanS

Hanoi John seems to like RED...


11 posted on 10/03/2004 9:38:21 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Might doesn't make right, RIGHT MAKES MIGHT)
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To: JeanS; Liz; backhoe; Interesting Times
Often seen with Cora at the U.N. is her husband, Peter, a former chairman of IPS, a board member of HAP and a stalwart of the National Lawyers Guild.

Peter was also a participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation and the VVAW's lawyer during the period when John Kerry was with the VVAW.

12 posted on 10/03/2004 9:58:40 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: JeanS
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13 posted on 10/03/2004 11:22:15 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: JeanS
Her ties with John Kerry date to 1970, when Mrs. Weiss was co-chair of the notorious Committee of Liaison with Families of Servicemen Detained in North Vietnam. Her reward for wartime travel to Hanoi and for exploiting the miseries of these GIs and their families was to be nominated chairwoman of the committee celebrating Vietnam's admission to the United Nations.

I wonder how she fit into the POW/MIA Senate activities that Kerry led, ultimately lifting the trade barriers to Vietnam in the early 1990's.

14 posted on 10/03/2004 11:45:44 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Fedora

good catch. Thanks. b.


15 posted on 10/03/2004 11:51:33 AM PDT by Barset
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To: Fedora

I guess you've been all over this one. Worth linking again.

John Kerry and his anti-American IPS playmates
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196819/posts

Kerry, the Sandinistas, and the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076375/posts


16 posted on 10/03/2004 11:54:39 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; JeanS; Liz; backhoe; Interesting Times; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Her name came up prominently in the report of the 1991-1993 Senate POW/MIA investigation Kerry chaired:

United States Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, Report of the Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs: Senate Select Committee - XXII: Accounting For Missing Servciemen

In January 1970, the Committee of Liaison with the Families (COLIAFAM), released a list of 156 U.S. POWs detained in North Vietnam. The Co-Directors of the Committee were Cora Weiss and David Dellinger. The Committee also released a list of five servicemen "confirmed as being dead by the North Vietnamese." Of these five, three were listed by the DRV at the time of the Paris Peace Accords as having died in captivity, while the other two were never confirmed as having been held captive. The remains of all five have been repatriated.

17 posted on 10/03/2004 12:03:05 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Barset

There's some more on that in Post #17.


18 posted on 10/03/2004 12:04:20 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Have you done part II of your JFKerry profile? Sorry if I missed it.


19 posted on 10/03/2004 12:06:15 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: JeanS
Should you wish to be a fully-fledged member of an anti-American support groups at the United Nations in New York you must hate George W. Bush, love John Kerry and be rich. To be both a member and a leader, you need to be unimaginably rich.

Ain't that the truth!

20 posted on 10/03/2004 12:23:47 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Just mythoughts
Part II is here:

Forging a Paper Hero: The Mystery of Kerry’s Medals

Part III is almost done. It includes some information on Peter and Cora Weiss, along with their IPS associate Richard Falk, who also participated in the Winter Soldier Investigation and coauthored a related book on alleged "war crimes" with the VVAW's psychiatric consultant Robert Jay Lifton.

On a related note, prior to his involvement with Winter Soldier, Peter Weiss had edited the proceedings of the International War Crimes Tribunal started by the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation, of which the Winter Soldier Investigation was a spinoff. Also regarding Cora Weiss, one of her partners at Women Strike for Peace, Bella Abzug, introduced VVAW member Sheldon Ramsdell to Peggy Kerry in 1969 and supported the VVAW at Dewey Canyon III.

21 posted on 10/03/2004 12:28:26 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I shall read, thank you in advance.


22 posted on 10/03/2004 12:30:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: An American In Dairyland

Yes, indeed. This happened in the Kennedy family, and the wife sued and later wrote a book about it. Four kids were affected. Robert Kennedy, Jr., I think, but I could be wrong. One of them, though. The wife's name was Sheila, they lived in Maryland or Va.


23 posted on 10/03/2004 12:33:11 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Fedora
Peter was also a participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation and the VVAW's lawyer during the period when John Kerry was with the VVAW.

Thanks...

24 posted on 10/03/2004 1:47:12 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
Here are some sources on that for reference:

On Peter Weiss, Richard Falk, the International War Crimes Tribunal, and the Winter Soldier Investigation: Crimes of War, editors Richard Falk, et al, New York: Random House, 1971; Robert Jay Lifton, Home from the War: Learning from Vietnam Veterans: With a new Preface and Epilogue on the Gulf War, Boston: Beacon Press, 1992 (1973, 1985), xxvii, 17, 459n1; Gerald Nicosia, Home to War: A History of the Vietnam Veterans’ Movement, New York: Crown Publishers, 2001, 82.

On Weiss as the VVAW's lawyer: Report, FBI, “Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Incorporated”, October 12, 1971, FBI HQ 100-448092, Section 7, online at www.wintersolider.com, http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI, pdf file HQ 100-448092 Section 7, 82-117 (see p. 96).

25 posted on 10/03/2004 2:17:26 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: JeanS

Wow! Who wrote the following statement:

"She presents a facade untouched by serious thought, hence her support for John Forbes Kerry"


26 posted on 10/03/2004 3:34:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: JeanS; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Cool, I was going to post this but didn't get around to it......

THANKS..};o)


27 posted on 10/03/2004 3:36:06 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: JeanS

They so easily make a mockery of the sacrifices so many made to bring this country forward.


28 posted on 10/03/2004 4:18:33 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Interesting Times; calcowgirl; JeanS; Liz; backhoe; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Just mythoughts
Found some more on Cora Weiss and the VVAW: the Vietnamese delegation in Paris was using her to send covert messages to the VVAW. This is mentioned in Teletype, Tampa FBI Special Agent in Charge to FBI Acting Director, et al, “Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Incorporated”, October 30, 1972, FBI HQ 100-448092, Section 34, online at www.wintersolider.com, http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI, pdf file HQ 100-448092 Section 34, 75-78.
29 posted on 10/03/2004 7:32:11 PM PDT by Fedora
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Another note: In November 1971 Al Hubbard received a promise from the North Vietnamese delegation in Paris that the next POW release would be made to the VVAW in December:

Teletype, author and subject and date deleted, FBI HQ 100-448092, Section 9, online at www.wintersolider.com, http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI, pdf file HQ 100-448092 Section 9, 144.

30 posted on 10/03/2004 10:30:45 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Kerry's communist ties ping


31 posted on 10/05/2004 2:36:59 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Fedora

I don't know if you had a chance to read this one, but it satates that John Kerry met with hte NV in PAris "before" he became a member of the VVAW. This indicates that he had other communist connections to make that happen.

Also, there is something in here about Kerry beating his wife.


32 posted on 10/06/2004 4:50:55 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

Yes, Kerry visited Paris just before joining the VVAW. He was then working for the Vietnam Moratorium Committee, a group interlocked with the New Mobe, which already had connections to the North Vietnamese Paris delegation and could've facilitated Kerry's contact with them. Kerry may have also had connections through his cousin Brice LaLonde, who in 1968 had become president of a Sorbonne French student union (l'UNEF à la Sorbonne) involved in the Communist-directed French student revolution that year.


33 posted on 10/06/2004 1:43:24 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Cindy

bttt


34 posted on 11/01/2004 3:21:04 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa; JeanS

Bump!


35 posted on 11/01/2004 3:30:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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