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USA TODAY/CNN/GALLUP POLL: Bush 49%, Kerry 49%, Nader 1% | Bush JA @ 50%

Posted on 10/03/2004 3:07:34 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: teletech

IEM actually caught Gore's surge and predicted his win the night before the election.


61 posted on 10/03/2004 3:23:27 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: Coachm

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62 posted on 10/03/2004 3:23:50 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: West Coast Conservative

The reality, everyone, is that just because Bush was ahead did for a few moments did not mean that the electorate had somehow become more enlightened. We see how impressionable roughly 10-15% of the population is. They don't know very much and they pick up whatever "buzz" happens to be circulating through the media and thereby the society. It is a scary thought: media buzz will swing this election. The media is currently working up a frenzy over the Kerry "victory" and Bush's "smirk." It's very sad that this could swing an election. But, of course, if you ever start thinking the American people are enlightened, go out and look at everyone!


63 posted on 10/03/2004 3:24:04 PM PDT by The Truth Machine
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'm not surprised.

I was at work and had to read the transcript of the debate. I though President Bush won hands down. Then, I saw a replay and was embarrased for President Bush. He looked tired and irritated, while Senator Kerry looked polished.

Once the Rebublican party starts talking issues and Kerry's lack of substance in the debate, people will really see why President Bush is the man for the job.

What the Bush campaign really has to do, is learn from the last debate. Kerry can do no better than he did last Thursday. He's all fluff and Bush needs to call him on it.


64 posted on 10/03/2004 3:24:27 PM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: flashbunny

I am basing WI on the 2000 election when it voted exactly like the nation as a whole. a 49-49 race nationally would be a 49.1-48.9 race in WI and IA.


65 posted on 10/03/2004 3:24:33 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: OhGeorgia

you have no idea what you're talking about. That is obvious.


66 posted on 10/03/2004 3:25:55 PM PDT by flashbunny (John Kerry: The Boston Flailer)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hey, didn't we ALL say they were setting Pres. Bush up for a big fall, with the inflated polls? Even if Bush had shown up 100% himself and not exhausted at the debate, this is what was planned. The fact he didn't do as well as expected just adds to it.
I ALWAYS thought Pres. Bush had a 4-5% lead...during the Kerry "surge", the Kerry meltdown, and now during his so-called meltdown. Don't pay attention to polls, or to the media and Dem rhetoric..Keep working and VOTE for Bush.


67 posted on 10/03/2004 3:26:31 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Gibtx

Gee wiz, it's only one friggin debate.


68 posted on 10/03/2004 3:26:54 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: flashbunny

whys is that?

the fact is the states move quite predictabally with the national polls.


69 posted on 10/03/2004 3:26:59 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: OhGeorgia; Old Sarge; MeekOneGOP; Darksheare; Conspiracy Guy; MEG33; mhking
I think we better wake up a face reality. Bush make have comitted one of the biggest political chokes in modern history. The election is now close enough that it can be stolen.

Bush blew it big time!!

I think we'd better wake up and smell the zot.

70 posted on 10/03/2004 3:27:10 PM PDT by TBarnett34 (I am become death, the destroyer of vanity posts.)
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To: OhGeorgia

Go away!


71 posted on 10/03/2004 3:27:30 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: sarasotarepublican

problem is there are tow more and that debate was suppose to be Bush strong point.


72 posted on 10/03/2004 3:27:37 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: flashbunny
you have no idea what you're talking about. That is obvious.

Obviously, we're doomed. Kerry will win Georgia by 7 percentage points!

...oh wait.

73 posted on 10/03/2004 3:28:19 PM PDT by TBarnett34 (I am become death, the destroyer of vanity posts.)
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To: OhGeorgia

no, they don't. Especially when they lead inside the state has been wider than the national average.

You can't extrapolate what is going on state to state by one poll that you dont' even have the internals for.

Maybe you can, because you're here from DU to spread doom and gloom around.


74 posted on 10/03/2004 3:28:52 PM PDT by flashbunny (John Kerry: The Boston Flailer)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Rasmussen says he has picked up a 1 point swing toward Kerry in Friday and Saturday interviews. That strikes me as more credible, and in line with Democracy Corp (Carville and Greenberg-- snakes, but they do fairly good polling)poll showing a 2 point swing.

Plenty of time left, and the "global test" attack will bite. Cheney needs to pound Edwards, and is perfectly capable of doing it.

All the negative opinions on this board are overblown. Like baseball, in a political campaign, you are never as bad as you look on your worst day, never as good as you look on your best day.

Bush did OK-- not great, but OK. He gave Kerry nothing to use going forward, Kerry gave us a lot-- in addition to the "global test" gaffe, how is nuclear fuel for the mullahs in Iran going to sound?

The only thing that really concerns me is the late and weak response to the BS draft rumors. I think this is capable of hurting us in one of our strongest demographics married women with children. We need to get someone credible, like Tommy Franks, to get out there and say we don't need no stinking draftee army!!
75 posted on 10/03/2004 3:29:17 PM PDT by gypsylea
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To: All

The internals were mixed. Bush was leading Kerry on the economy, but now Kerry has pulled ahead. Bush is still leading on Iraq and terrorism, but by smaller margins. I don't know the exact numbers...gotta wait for the internals.


76 posted on 10/03/2004 3:29:37 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: OhGeorgia

The thing is W better come out firing hard during the next two debates. His performance for whatever reason (fatigue, gentlemanly courtesy) was not confident and was not nearly smooth enough (even by W's standards).

No question he can and he will. He needs to put F'n on the defensive about his complete and total lack of Senate record, and no record of leadership in his entire life. Kerry will try to come out firing hard on the economy next debate, making all kinds of lying claims about job loss and middle class squeeze. W needs to be locked and loaded, shut him down and make him look like the fool he is.
He needs to have the statistics memorized and talk loud and proud about the accomplishments his administration and the country have achieved since 911.
Kerry as we now know will come across as a smooth talker (just like a used car salesman), and W needs to match that so that the soft mushhead undecideds don't get the wrong impression again. A little more practice wouldn't hurt.

Full speed ahead, and damn the torpedoes!


77 posted on 10/03/2004 3:30:08 PM PDT by Newtoidaho
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To: OhGeorgia
Thank God none of you pussies are in the administration, we'd all be under Taliban control after 9-11. "We're dooomed! They were able to strike at our capitol and New York! Surrender now, we're doooomed!"

Watch the larger story, don't focus on one silly poll.

78 posted on 10/03/2004 3:30:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: OhGeorgia
IEM actually caught Gore's surge and predicted his win the night before the election.

Isn't that when the RATS released the 30+ year old DWI thing on Bush? This is still doable for Bush but he better come out smokin' in this next debate! Why the President ever agreed to 3 debates is beyond me.

79 posted on 10/03/2004 3:30:32 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: flashbunny

Actually you can. based on the three most previous elections OH is 3-4 point more GOP than the nation. IA and WI about equal to the national average. CA, IL are about6 point more DEM, PA and MI about 3 points more DEM. Sometimes you get an outlier like NJ this time or IA in 1988, but you can predict a states polling average accurately using national polls.


80 posted on 10/03/2004 3:30:56 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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