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The Report That Nails Saddam
NY Times ^ | October 9, 2004 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 10/08/2004 9:28:39 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

From time to time, I’ll post or ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list. "

Thank you for the ping! I may have never seen this. Now I have ammo for my Dem. friends.


41 posted on 10/10/2004 5:14:42 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: Eaker

Thanks for the link. I tell people about BugMeNot.com when I post from WaPo or the LA Times, but then I forget about it when I get directed to other stories on RKBA and don't want to release more personal info. Go figure. Maybe I'm getting CRS, can't remember sh@t.


42 posted on 10/10/2004 5:28:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: risk

Thanks for the link!


43 posted on 10/10/2004 5:30:21 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Maybe I'm getting CRS, can't remember sh@t.

LOL!!!!!!

44 posted on 10/10/2004 5:32:07 PM PDT by Eaker ("He's the kind of guy who would fight a rattlesnake and give the snake a two-bite head start.")
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To: Fedora; swilhelm73; Chronos; CarrotAndStick; river rat; Cincinatus' Wife; Alouette; SJackson; ...

Carter’s Arab Funding May Color Israel Stance
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/28/112225.shtml

Sam Nunn's http://www.nti.org (nuclear threat initiative) - could it be receiving Saudi funding like Carter is? I see both the Carter Center and his NTI here:
http://islamabad.usembassy.gov/wwwhirc_alert0401.html

MUST VISIT link:
Daniel Pipes: Academia's Saudi Purse Strings
Documented incident of academic influence attempt.
List of people (naming names).
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14567
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189707/posts (swilhelm73 post)

Saudi-funded Mosque at WSU linked to WA Guardsman's defection
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20040223.shtml

Saudis influence Bangladesh - and ruin it
http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/002659.html


45 posted on 10/10/2004 5:45:32 PM PDT by risk
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To: Natural Law

I got a NOT FOUND message. I've never seen a www with a 2 after it. Please double check the link.


46 posted on 10/10/2004 5:48:12 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: neverdem

the princess of rags wouldn't run this without a reason. beware.


47 posted on 10/10/2004 5:50:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Fedora
Hmmm... (From your list.)

Thurs., July 15 at 3 p.m., Chief Editor of the largest English-language daily in the Middle East, The Arab News, Khaled al-Maeena, will discuss "Attacks on Americans in Saudi Arabia," U.S.-Saudi Relations, freedom of the press and Arab public opinion. . . . Wed., July 21 at 2 p.m., the former Prime Minister of Albania, Ilir Meta, will discuss his new Institute for Peace, Development and Integration. . . . Fri., July 23 at 3 p.m.

National Press Club event

48 posted on 10/10/2004 5:57:00 PM PDT by risk
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To: harpu

He also said Bush won Friday's debate.


49 posted on 10/10/2004 6:00:12 PM PDT by madameguinot (Frau Blucher. NEYYYYYYYYYYYY!)
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To: risk
I wonder what financial stakes were at interest in the Middle East diplomacy that went on during the Carter administration--notably the negotations with Anwar Sadat and the overthrow of the Shah. I know Carter's policies on the latter were opposed by the American oil lobby, which leads me to suspect a foreign oil lobby was behind Carter's policy. I'm wondering now if a similar interest group was benefitting from Carter's policies towards Sadat. Carter and Sadat kind of irritated the Saudis, I've read:

From Robert Lacey, The Kingdom: Arabia & the House of Saud, 451ff

The Arab consensus was that Sadat had sold out the general cause to get back his own land, for through Egypt retained Sinai at Camp David, Israel kept Jerusalem. . .In November 1978 Iraq convened an Arab summit to frame sanctions against Sadat, and Fahad signed for Saudi Arabia. But the crown prince insisted that the sanctions should not be invoked until Sadat had finally signed the Camp David agreement as published. Perhaps Sadat could still squeeze out a deal which did more for Jerusalem and the Palestinians, and to give Egypt time. . .But as the details from Camp David became more solid through the winter of 1978-9 it became clear that the peace offered nothing that any Arab but an Egyptian could describe as honourable, while it was also radicalizing the Arab world, both governments and peoples, to a degree unseen since the October War. . .At this moment, the Shah fell. Before January 1979 Saudi Arabia was already getting worried about Jimmy Carter. His Westernized definition of how 'human rights' should be defined seemed arrogant. . .in Iran this confused idealism had both encouraged opposition to the Shah, and fatally undermined the man whom America had installed and maintained for twenty-five years as her best non-Jewish friend in the Middle East. It also undermined the wish of Fahad ibn Abdul Aziz to give the Camp David process some sort of life, for the crown prince had finally to agree with his brothers that an America that could not save the Shah could not save the Al Saud either. . .the failure in the following year of the military attempt to rescue the US hostages held by student militants in Iran was fuly to confirm the accuracy of this assessment. . .Fahad was mortified. . .on 31 March 1979 Saudi Arabia announced that it was severing diplomatic ties with Egypt, cutting off all aid and joining the general Arab boycott of the Sadat regime. The Kingdom had lined up with the 'wild men' of the Arab world.

50 posted on 10/10/2004 6:11:48 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: risk

Good eye.


51 posted on 10/10/2004 6:13:06 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: neverdem
Ain't this a F'n NUSIANCE??????
52 posted on 10/10/2004 6:29:46 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Fedora; Cincinatus' Wife
Good eye.

Ha. I'm learning from you and Racilia.

53 posted on 10/10/2004 6:33:49 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk

LOL! Well, I missed that one and you caught it, so you must be a fast learner :)


54 posted on 10/10/2004 6:58:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Jim_Curtis

I don't think there is proof that he destroyed the WMD's. But the Marines thought they still had them. My son was there when they went into Iraq. Before he came home a year later the Chaplin called the parents in to help us understand what they had been through.

While I was there one of the officers and I started talking. She was a nice lady. I asked her what her job was and she said that she had been trained to inform the parents of a Marines death. She said that they had trained 100's of extra men to help because they thought there would be thousands and thousands of body bags coming in. The Marine Corp thought the troops would have to face biological weapons. Thank God they didn't have to.


55 posted on 10/10/2004 7:13:47 PM PDT by georgiabelle
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To: georgiabelle

Thank you for your son's service, and I am so glad he made it back.


56 posted on 10/10/2004 7:19:27 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Fedora; Cincinatus' Wife; neverdem
I know Carter's policies on the latter were opposed by the American oil lobby, which leads me to suspect a foreign oil lobby was behind Carter's policy.

We'd have to question is role in lending legitimacy to the "reelection" of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela under those conditions. I have no doubt that a consumate tyrant couldn't persuade his people to put him back into office after buying their love with oil money.

But could Carter have had some help from the oil cartels to bring Venezuela into the anti-western fold?

57 posted on 10/10/2004 8:40:06 PM PDT by risk
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To: georgiabelle; Jim_Curtis
Thank God they didn't have to.

We don't know that they have, or that they won't. But we're not sure.

58 posted on 10/10/2004 8:41:42 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk

Good question--I wasn't even thinking of Carter's Venezuelan policy. Interesting line of thought.


59 posted on 10/10/2004 10:07:45 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora; freedom44; RaceBannon; ExSoldier

Two words: Bandar Mahshahr. By the way, http://www.nti.org is one of Turner's babies.


60 posted on 10/10/2004 10:21:33 PM PDT by risk
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