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Putin Bears Responsibility for Terrorism (Russian Takes Putin to Task)
Newsmax ^ | September 9, 2004 | Alexandr Nemets

Posted on 10/09/2004 12:42:38 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen

Putin Bears Responsibility for Terrorism Alexandr Nemets Thursday, Sept. 9, 2004

If you believe the press reports and spin from Russia, that nation is under attack from “terrorists,” who bear full responsibility for a spate of attacks against civilians – including the recent school massacre. But the facts suggest something more.

Consider the recent chronology of terrorism in Russia:

1) On Aug. 21, around 8 p.m. local time, about 300 Chechen guerrillas entered Grozny, the capital of Chechnya. Russian experts say the operation was planned thoroughly and its organizers were certain of its success. That’s why they came into the city long before nightfall. This fact alone smashed the multiple claims of high-ranking Moscow officials – Putin, Defense Minister Ivanov, etc. – that “terrorists in Chechnya are almost beaten and peace is near.”

This operation is comparable to the guerrilla attack on Nazran, the capital of neighboring Ingushetia Republic, on June 21, but the scale of the action in Grozny was probably greater. The guerrillas attacked dozens of objectives in Grozny: police stations, voting polls (prepared for the election of a new president of Chechnya), army and police checkpoints, army barracks and the city market.

Guerrilla groups of five to seven fighters each moved freely all over the city, stopping cars and checking documents for the purpose of “revealing” army and police officers and local officials.

For the entire night the city was in guerrilla hands. Guerrillas left the city at sunrise, and Russian army and police forces made no attempt to pursue them. Guerrilla losses reportedly were no more than 15, while Russian losses amounted to about 100.

2) On Aug. 24, about 11 p.m. local time, two Russian passenger planes exploded almost simultaneously and fell on the ground. Both had departed from Moscow’s Domodedovo airport and headed south. One of them, a huge TU-155, fell in the Rostov region; the other, a TU-134, fell in the Tula region. Eighty-eight people, including 16 crewmembers, died in the two catastrophes.

It took KGB/FSB and the Russian Interior Ministry (police department) about four days to recognize that “evidently, the two aircraft were destroyed as a result of a suicide terrorist action. Women with Chechen names were among the passengers of both aircraft.”

3) On Aug. 31, a suicide terrorist action took place near the metro station “Rizhsckaya” in the northern part of Moscow. A young Chechen woman exploded herself – one more “black widow” from the North Caucasus –killing 10 persons and wounding 50. Reportedly, she intended to blow herself up inside the subway itself (i.e., to reproduce that huge terrorist action in a subway train in February 2004), but she got scared of policemen at the entrance.

These actions alone cost Russia, by the estimate of most informed Moscow journalists, more than 200 lives.

4) Finally, on Sept. 1, about 50 “Chechen fighters,” calling themselves the Islambuli Brigade, seized the school in Beslan in the North Ossetia Republic, about 100 kilometers west of Grozny. The terrorists were heavily armed with automatic rifles and grenade launchers.

The action took place on the first day of the new school year. Initially it was supposed that around 300 children and their parents were taken as hostages. Later it appeared that the number of hostages probably approached 1,200. The terrorists immediately concentrated the hostages in the school gymnasium and mined the entire school building.

Seven people were killed during the hostage taking and in skirmishes around the school building on Sept. 1. The terrorists demanded the withdrawal of Russian troops from Chechnya and the release of the fighters captured during the attack of Nazran on June 21. A very grim detail: For the first time in the nine-year history of “Chechen terrorist actions,” terrorists “deployed” the children at the school windows as a “live shield”.

Sept. 2 passed comparatively quietly; the terrorists released 26 women and babies under the age of 2.

On the afternoon of Sept. 3, Russian troops “spontaneously and accidentally” (if we are to trust the Russian officials) initiated the school storming, which was accompanied by multiple explosions inside and intensive use of artillery from outside. Hundreds died during the storming of the school.

Who Is Guilty?

During the past several days, Russian journalists independent of the Kremlin (the leftist media belonging to the “democratic opposition”) and Russian-language journalists in New York (from RTV TV channel, Forwerts weekly and other newspapers not connected with Moscow) have been asking the same, traditionally Russian question: “Who is guilty?”

Impressively, all these journalists, in both Moscow and New York, of both leftist and moderate democratic orientation – from the chief editor of the Zavtra weekly, Alexandr Prokhanov, up to the former coach of the NTV channel (earlier the twin of RTV and now a Russian-government-controlled TV channel) Viktor Shenderovich – are giving the same answer, with insignificant variations: “Kremlin, Putin, Moscow!”

A more detailed answer, cleaned of emotion, is as follows:

The recent series of terrorist actions was primarily the result of the presidential election in Chechnya. This position became vacant on the death of the previous president, Akhmad Kadyrov, on May 9, in an explosion in the Grozny stadium. The new election took place on Sunday, Aug. 29. Supported by Moscow, Chechen Interior Minister Alu Alkhanov received around 75 percent of the votes, winning the election. Moscow proclaimed this election to be “honest and legitimate,” but the independent Russian media have another point of view.

Recent events prove that the phenomenon of a “normal government fulfilling its duties” has ceased to exist in Russia. Of course there are still several million people clad in the uniforms of the Russian army, police, FSB and other security forces. They are strong in looting, taking bribes, extorting tribute, shooting and arresting innocent people, and they are ruling supreme. They are absolutely helpless, however, in dealing with a real enemy!

These security forces, including Russian army officers deployed in Chechnya and the neighboring North Caucasus republics, are mostly corrupt. They probably wouldn’t arrest even Osama bin Laden entering a Moscow subway with a nuclear device, if he paid them handsomely enough.

And the mighty network of Chechen-controlled businesses in Moscow and other major Russian cities pays handsomely to key figures in the administration and security forces. These same businesses, enjoying a substantial share of the “oil-dollars rain” over Russia, have a lot of money to finance the guerrilla struggle in Chechnya and the most sophisticated terrorist actions in the North Caucasus republics and elsewhere in Russia.

Don’t look for another explanation for what’s happening, and be ready for even more terrible – much more terrible – terrorist strikes. Perhaps even the rumors about “nine nuclear suitcases stolen from former Soviet armories in the beginning of the 1990s, purchased by terrorists and installed in key points in Moscow for X hour” are not groundless.s

The 9/11 terrorist attacks were a blessing for Putin & Co. After 9/11, he formally joined the “world crusade against terror” and enjoys the support of Western politicians. This gives Putin and his associates an excuse to behave in a very cruel manner, to torture and murder tens of thousands of innocent people, to make millions of people – not only Chechens but also other “Kavkazians” (who don’t mix with Caucasians) and even ethnic Russians as well – the objects of intensive state-run terrorism. Correction: police-military terrorism, because the normal state no longer exists in Russia.

What is happening in Chechnya and the bordering republics is actual armed military conflict, having nothing to do with the worldwide war on terrorism, despite some ties of guerrilla leaders with al-Qaida and some presence of Arabs among Chechen guerrillas. But ethnic Russians are here as well. The flame of war now embraces the entire North Caucasus, and its sparks are falling on Moscow and elsewhere.

This conflict was initiated by Boris Yeltsin in December 1994. Putin, his successor, fueled the conflict in August-September 1999 after a series of apartment house explosions in Moscow and Volgodonsk. By the way, who was to blame for these actions? Chechen terrorists? In two Chechen wars, the Russian army and police-security forces killed more than 100,000 civilians and deeply harmed millions of them. This created a fertile ground for the emergence of many thousands of ruthless young terrorists of both sexes, who know nothing except hate and death. Their ultimate goal is to bring death from Chechnya to Moscow.

The Kremlin sowed the seeds of hatred, and now Russia deals with the harvest. A multitude of Chechen “black widows,” young women eagerly becoming suicide bombers, has evolved during the last two years into an outstanding component of terrorist-guerrilla activity. Most of them lost close relatives or were deeply insulted by Russian troops.

The North Caucasian war (not the “Chechen war” that is already going on) could continue indefinitely, because this war and related terrorist actions are extremely profitable for the Russian “ruling elite.” This group of people includes (a) corrupt “civilian” officials of all kinds who misuse money for the war itself as well as a huge financial flow for the “postwar reconstruction of Chechnya”; (b) oligarchs of all sizes, sharing the income with these officials; and (c) several thousand generals, the actual rulers of Russia now, who belong to the FSB, police, other security forces and army. The last group uses the war/terror environment for “black business” purposes and for expansion of its power as well. What to Do?

While discussing all these facts and trends, Moscow journalists and their New York colleagues could not miss the problem of “media freedom” in Russia or, more correctly, its absence.

Anna Politkovskaya, a Russian journalist famous for her truthful description of the Chechnyan war, tried to reach Beslan. Her trip ended on Sept. 2 in a hospital in Rostov-on-Don, halfway between Moscow and Beslan. According to reliable data, Anna was poisoned and remains in very grave condition. Other “Putin unfriendly” journalists trying to reach Beslan by air were involved in fighting with the police at an airdrome and had been arrested.

Russian journalists in Moscow and New York, while admitting the unacceptability of the present situation in Chechnya, cannot find a comprehensive answer to one more famous Russian question: “What to do?” However, even if they find the answer, the Kremlin won’t change its policy. That’s because the independent media’s influence on and general public opinion of the present rulers of Russia are negligible.

More important, what should America do?

First of all, to recognize the truth, which no doubt is very close to the conclusions of the Russian independent media presented above. Our administration should make the right choice based on this truth.

Dr. Alexandr V. Nemets is co-author of "Chinese-Russian Military Relations, Fate of Taiwan and New Geopolitics" and "Russian-Chinese Alliance."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caucasus; chechnya; conspiracy; fsb; kgb; putin; russia; waronterror
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To: FearGodNotMen
FGNM

I don't disagree with you, but maybe I am becoming non-committal. I am rabidly American and patriotic which means I am quite a scandal to Russians. I hope Bush wins, otherwise when I go to Russia, probably for the new year holidays, my Russians friends will be gloating that Bush made major mistakes in Iraq. And it will be painful to have Kerry kissing up to all of Europe, including Russia.

All the facts regarding the Ryazan explosives seem to be true. The only question is whether you believe it could have been an exercise as the FSB later claimed. I find this very hard to believe. On the other hand the Chechnyans have clearly gone out of control.

I just have a hard time taking a side in this any more. It is impossible to tell Russians that their children are being killed because they killed so many people in Chechnia. I supported the chechnians in their revolution and followed it avidly, but it seems they have gone too far.

I also think there are elements in the Russian government who are butchers, have never accepted democracy and continue to use all the methods they learned during the cold war to combat it, even if it means using these methods against their own people.

This is sad, because I have personal relations with russians who are fiercely patriotic, and sit worried by their TV sets trying to determine what is happening in their government. It isn't like here where we worry if liberals will take over. They worry whether their entire system will go to hell, which is a very real possibility. They, like us, want to believe their government is always right, but are always faces with these failures and a government of indifference. I am still trying to figure Putin out. I can't tell if he is a practical reformist or a man who craves the power of the tzars. You can never tell.

41 posted on 10/09/2004 5:36:23 PM PDT by manx
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To: FearGodNotMen; Admin Moderator
Who said I was blaming the victims? BTW, putting the Beslan massacre aside for the moment, there is a disturbing body of evidence that suggests the FSB (formerly KGB) has itself committed terrorist acts against their own citizens. Here is one, amongst many examples that could be given.

I see you joined FR 10/5/04. Here we see the same disinformation from another one of the friends of Chechen terrorists who post on FR. Time after time I have seen this individual post under another name doing everything in his power to discredit the Russian government.
42 posted on 10/09/2004 6:15:54 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: manx
Hi Manx, thanks for your response. Did you check out the Terror-99 website as well? Very disturbing stuff. Personally, I think Putin is using the Moscow Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) to dupe Russians into supporting him. If you do an extensive search on the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (ROCA), you will see that the official ROC is subverting historic doctrine by pushing ecumenism, etc. Moreover, they are harassing the ROCA all over the world, up to and including, seizing ROCA property through the application of diplomatic pressure on various foreign governments ("We are the rightful heirs to ROCA property, etc). Very sad. It is rapidly becoming clear to me that the Moscow Patriarchate is the imitation, and the persecuted ROCA is the real deal. Any comments, corrections, or new info. would be most appreciated. I look forward to your reply.
43 posted on 10/09/2004 6:19:31 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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To: FearGodNotMen
Regarding whether Russia is a friend or foe, they are too weak to be our enemy. I think this fact is what is killing most Russians. Their birth rate is well below the mortality rate. Russians think people with more than one or two kids are uncivilized. They only have a population of 150 million. Their army is rusting away faster than it is built.

This is all very good for the Russian people, in my view, because it forces their government to make friend with the west, democratize and modernize. They do have growing oil production but the are somewhat dependant on the west for technology to exploit this.

For the average Russian on the street the last thing they want is to be subservient to the west. They still have this pride of being a powerful soviet power. Putin plays to this pride by announcing grand military plans, but it is mostly a facade to gain support.

The whole issue of France, Germany and Russia opposing our activities is simply a political game to drive up national pride and democratic support. There is no power behind it whatsoever.

I find Russians to be crazy, because they seem obsessed with defying the US and they cheer China's rise to power because they see this as some validation that communism may still work. They don't consider the fact that china is right on their border, and most nuclear proliferation is coming in small states along their border, and it is far more likely they will be harmed by these events rather than by anything the US does.

However, they still have the mentality that we are their primary rival so they are eager to see us fail. I have had this argument many times with Russians, but they think we are just rednecks and cowboys and know nothing. It is the European mentality all over again, but they also have this asian influence which means change comes much slower.

44 posted on 10/09/2004 6:20:11 PM PDT by manx
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To: FearGodNotMen
Moreover, they oppose just about everything we do to fight the War on Terror.

I know for a fact that is a bald-faced lie. Russia does have its own interests, but they have helped us in many areas behind the scenes.
45 posted on 10/09/2004 6:22:35 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

"I see you joined FR 10/5/04. Here we see the same disinformation from another one of the friends of Chechen terrorists who post on FR. Time after time I have seen this individual post under another name doing everything in his power to discredit the Russian government."

It's called freedom of speech, pal. If you wish to refute my info., feel free. That's the way we do things here in America--the greatest country on God's green earth.


46 posted on 10/09/2004 6:23:01 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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To: FearGodNotMen

Interesting!

Seems some days the more things change the more they stay the same.

Maybe Saddam will spill the beans in his upcoming trial...

I do not envy Putin, however, I do not trust him either.


47 posted on 10/09/2004 6:29:05 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: FreedomCalls
Nothing Putin has done or will do, can ever justify an attack on a school on the first day of school. Don't blame the victims.

Your right, AND nothing that the Chechen terrorists have done could justify the killing(if true) of 100,000 Chechen civilians.

There's plenty of innocent-killing blame to go around.

48 posted on 10/09/2004 6:30:11 PM PDT by FreeReign ( Ya panimAyu kAzhdoye tvoyO slOvo)
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To: FreedomCalls

"That's exactly right. "Uncle Joe" Stalin was our ally when we needed him to fight a bigger threat. Without him, we would have lost WWII. We don't intend to lose the war on terror."


Stalin was never, never, ever our ally!


49 posted on 10/09/2004 6:36:22 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: FearGodNotMen; Admin Moderator; GarySpFc

Good posts GearGodNotMen. Keep posting.


50 posted on 10/09/2004 6:40:17 PM PDT by FreeReign ( Ya panimAyu kAzhdoye tvoyO slOvo)
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To: FearGodNotMen
I appreciate your comment. But it can't be denied that Russia arms the countries that arm and provide safe-haven for the terrorists.

And so do we. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Arafat and the PLO.

I have been aware that Russia, and when it was the Soviet Union, has been a threat since 1950's and the 1960's when I was in the military.

I know all about their arms sales and also the arms sales of the French, Red China, Israel,ect. U.S.

But none of these have attack and killed three thousand civilians inside our border.

Now I would like you to tell me who killed those American citizens and who's to blame for deliberately targeting and slaughtering those Beslan School children.

51 posted on 10/09/2004 6:42:09 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck ( Knowledge and truth does not come wrapped in sheepskin. It comes to those that seek it.)
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To: FearGodNotMen; MarMema
It's called freedom of speech, pal. If you wish to refute my info., feel free. That's the way we do things here in America--the greatest country on God's green earth.

Yes, America is the greatest country on God's earth. I know, I served six years on a Special Forces A-Team serving it. I also believe the truth sets people free, and exposing you is at the top of my list.
I'm very familiar with how disinformation is used in a war. I have seen you post article after article twisting the truth to discredit the Russian government. You goal is to deflect blame from the Islamofacists in Chechnya who are actually controlled by al-Qaeda. The Russian government is not perfect, but neither is it the monster both governments are fighting.

52 posted on 10/09/2004 6:43:36 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: FreeReign

"Your right, AND nothing that the Chechen terrorists have done could justify the killing(if true) of 100,000 Chechen civilians."

Here, here!!! I wonder how many on this thread really, truly understand what's going on over there. I cetainly don't. But many of the posts I read on this forum are so utterly one-sided, I feel compelled to at least make an attempt to show the other side. The other side claims that the Russian FSB/Putin is behind much of what the Chechens are being blamed for. And given Putin's track-record so far, I think these voices deserve to be heard.

PS I am not Chechen. I am an Evangelical Christian-American of Norwegian, Bohemian, German, English, Canadian (and the list goes on) descent!


53 posted on 10/09/2004 6:47:58 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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To: mississippi red-neck; FearGodNotMen
Now I would like you to tell me who killed those American citizens and who's to blame for deliberately targeting and slaughtering those Beslan School children.

The answer to that is easy: The terrorists.

Where's FearGodNotMen on this??

54 posted on 10/09/2004 6:49:17 PM PDT by FreeReign ( Ya panimAyu kAzhdoye tvoyO slOvo)
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To: FearGodNotMen
I wonder how many on this thread really, truly understand what's going on over there.

They don't. It's a mess over there.

55 posted on 10/09/2004 6:50:53 PM PDT by FreeReign ( Ya panimAyu kAzhdoye tvoyO slOvo)
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To: FearGodNotMen
Okay, I was writing my last post before I saw your new one.

I really don't know anything regarding the Russian Orthodox Church or it being harassed. I don't know how much you know about Russia. Did you know that people aren't allowed to own land in Russia?

In Chechnya there is oil in many places just below the ground and it has become almost like bootlegging. Chechnians set up their own tiny oil refineries in order to make a little money from the oil near their homes. It is all completely illegal because Russia claims ownership to all land and they get raided and shut down.

Actually, the Russians I know are very proud of this fact, and love to mock Americans for having so many fences everywhere, and "private property" signs. They like to think they have more freedom because they can hike into the woods anywhere they want based on the Soviet ideal that the land belongs to everyone.

Of course it is all over stated and I grew up running around the country in American without any trouble and Russians have plenty of fences that are so ubiquitous to them that no one notices. Still they think this is a special freedom, and are unable to recognize the lack of freedom to buy land, find gold, strike oil, or do whatever the hell they want with it for personal gain.

So, when you say the Russian government is claiming the land of the Churches, I just see this as a manifestation of Russian mentality and they would probably wonder why anyone objects.

Not too long ago my friend in Russia saw a controversial political writer run a story on TV in which Putin was presented as a military general, a church bishop, a successful businessman, the president, a religious saint. It was sort of political satire showing that Putin was taking over all forms of power, even the spiritual power of the country.

My friend thought this was funny, but also thought, "this is too much", and a week later it was announced that this writer would be mysteriously retiring.

On the other hand, you have to accept that this is all they know. To them our democracy appears to be a chaos. How can we let Michael Moore say the things he says, how can we survive this disaster of the Florida recount, how can we let everyone do as they please with the land?

It is all just a completely different perspective than ours. If they had our democracy they would be scared to death and would be demanding some stability. It will just take time for them to understand how it works.

56 posted on 10/09/2004 6:52:36 PM PDT by manx
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To: mississippi red-neck
Mississippi wrote: "Now I would like you to tell me who killed those American citizens and who's to blame for deliberately targeting and slaughtering those Beslan School children."

I don't know...but I'm working on it! BTW, you are right to point out the US gives foreign AID to the PLO, both directly and through the UN. This needs to be stopped ASAP. However, I am not aware of the US ever selling weapons to the PLO. If you have evidence that we have, please post the links so I can warn other FReepers.

As for arms sales to Arab countries, I don't mind so long as they are proven contributors to stability in the region (that would, of course, leave out Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, and some others).
57 posted on 10/09/2004 6:57:41 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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To: Just mythoughts
Stalin was never, never, ever our ally!


58 posted on 10/09/2004 7:01:39 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreeReign

Now I would like you to tell me who killed those American citizens and who's to blame for deliberately targeting and slaughtering those Beslan School children.


FreeReign's respons: "The answer to that is easy: The terrorists.

Where's FearGodNotMen on this??"




Couldn't agree with you more, FreeReign. It was the terrorists. Now, who they're working for is open to debate. But it was definately the terrorists.


59 posted on 10/09/2004 7:03:14 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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To: FreedomCalls
lol

Stalin was never, never, ever our ally.

He was a brutal, evil, low life a communistic "god".
60 posted on 10/09/2004 7:08:12 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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