Challenging Rest of the World With a New Order

NY Times ^ | October 12, 2004 | ROGER COHEN, DAVID E. SANGER and STEVEN R. WEISMAN

[neverdem]

Some girlie men got their panties in a wad.

[TheEnigma47]

This mexican FILTH joined with france, germany russia and china to TWARTH the US effort to REMOVE hussein with a LARGER coalition. NOW he wants to know WHY the PRESIDENT is aloof toward mexico? He belongs to the NTB crowd

NTB = Not TOO BRIGHT

[Darkwolf377]

"My sense is that Bush lost and never regained the gift he had shown for making you feel at ease," said Mr. Castañeda, who left office last year. "He became aloof, brusque, and on occasion abrasive."

The root of the UN's problems with Bush is...manners. BooHoo, he didn't ask them NICELY, he said "Get off yer butts and get the job done!" and they were all insulted.

Who the hell would want an ally who goes into a snit and abandons you over such piddly EGO issues? Let's say for the sake of argument Bush was rude or whatever--can't these "leaders" see the larger picture and think "OK, this guy's being a jerk but the real issue is important"?

Assuming, of course, we're talking about the non-bribed members of the UN.

[ConservativeVoice]

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[MNJohnnie]

"He became aloof, brusque, and on occasion abrasive." The brusqueness had a clear message: the United...


Gee I wonder how the leader of Mexico would respond if a Terrorists murdered 2818 unarmed, undefended Mexican Civilians and the US acted like it was bussiness as usual and no cause to radically restructure our joint border security?

[Remember_Salamis]

"Relations between Japan and America have never been better than with Bush," said Hatsuhisa Takashima, the foreign ministry spokesman in Tokyo, where spines have been stiffened by the North Korean threat and Mr. Bush's blunt approach to terrorism. "We have more than 500 troops in Iraq because we believe the American-British action prodded Libya to disarm, sent a strong message to North Korea and showed the price of noncompliance with United Nations resolutions. Failure in Iraq is unthinkable."

[bulldogs]

Remember the friggen Alamo.

[MissAmericanPie]

The rest of the world is crazy and headed towards destruction, the less we have to do with their entanglements the better.

[vaudine]

Listening to the state dept is like listening to Euros. This entire article, written by three Jewish Am. writers by their names is entirely with the elitist, let's parlay, let's have summits, let's get nothing done crowd.

Notice that other nations are not as interested in terrorism or concerned as we are. If Kerry wins, give them another 10 years and they will be wringing their hands. Not to worry. Their youth will welcome the takeover because resistance would be so physical, so rough, so very bothersome.

Sheesh and good grief!


vaudine

[Just Lori]

Mexico's hesitant stance at the United Nations on the war in Iraq became a source of tension. Yet Mr. Castañeda said, "I was never asked, 'What is it you need in order to be more cooperative with us? What can we do to help?' "


What is it you need to BECOME MORE COOPERATIVE WITH US????? Someone tell me this isn't real!

[Southack]

"Then, the acknowledgment that there were no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction and no proven links between Mr. Hussein and Al Qaeda cemented the view in Paris, Berlin and elsewhere that Mr. Bush governed from ideology first, facts second."

In that case, it is ironic that such European views were cemented from inaccurate portrayals.

Are there and were there links between Al Qaeda and Hussein? Yes, contrary to this article.

Are there and were there links between Hussein and 9/11? Possibly not.

Did the authors of this article confuse a link to al Qaeda with a link to 9/11? Apparently.

[Billthedrill]

A surprisingly even-handed article from the Times. The difficulty for the French in particular and for the UN in general is that the WOT has ended the comfortable world in which they could set rules without taking the trouble to enforce them or even, when it suits them, to obey them. A lovely deal for them, and it's lasted for a long time.

They aren't worried about the U.S. losing the War on Terror. They're worried about us winning it.

[Cate]

Excuse me... when we were hurting, why didn't those countries ask "what they could do for us?' We shouldn't
have to prompt them to help us. Nitwits.

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Yet Mr. Castañeda said, "I was never asked, 'What is it you need in order to be more cooperative with us? What can we do to help?' "

Are relations between nations all a one-way street Mr. Castaneda? The U.S. has gone out of our way to try to help U.S.-Mexican relations and in return we get little more than a slap in the face.

[truth_seeker]

"Still, anti-American hostility in the Islamic world is widespread."

And anti-islamic hostility in America is widespread. For good reason.

And we will prevail.

[Southack]

"Indeed, Iraq, many European officials say, was a costly distraction from fighting terrorism. They argue that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, whose images feed extremism across the Arab world, has been neglected. Iran, a more real and imminent threat than Iraq, and a source of further European-American division, was ignored for too long."

...And yet, there is no doubt that old Europe wants nothing to do with fixing the problem in Iran.

Moreover, the whole "Iran is worse than Iraq" argument rings hollow because *none* of these critics dared utter such words when we were building up our forces in Kuwait (positioned for an attack on *either* Iran or Iraq).

Attack either, and such idiots would have then claimed that the *other* was the "real" threat.

Perhaps Europe can tolerate such fools, but I can't.

[Texasforever]

They aren't worried about the U.S. losing the War on Terror. They're worried about us winning it.

That is one of the most profound statements I have ever read on FR. In 20 years we will be in a full blown cold war with the EU.

[Southack]

Germany and Iran Enjoy Traditional Close Ties

Lets face it: Germany and France are on the other side.

[CalmCorrectConservPatriotCCCP]

So, this pap only required the team effort of three girly men from NYC.

I predict, following President Bush's re-election, the Left will evolve from throwing epithets to throwing bombs. Call me wild-eyed, but actions follow words, and the bald hatred, by the Left, of America and Bush's leadership, is palpable here. What we are seeing in the pre-election attacks on GOP offices is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. There were fewer pre-election attacks against polling sites here in Afghanistan, chew on that.

FBI, are you listening? I hope someone is.

[rpgdfmx]

Maybe ego was involved, but the Mexican Ambassador to the U.N. complained about British and U.S. spying, and the whole thing has given the Bush administration a very bad reputation in Mexico.

President Fox might have been able to convince Mexican opinion-makers on the wisdom of at least remaining neutral in the Security Council, or providing some token assistance (military assistance was out of the question -- besides not having a military capable of an overseas operation, Mexico's constitution only allows for overseas operations if Mexico itself is attacked).

Casteñeda and Ambassador Aguillar Zinser quit. They were the last remnants of a small left-wing, pro-US, pro-Fox party that gave PAN its margin of victory in 2000. Fox, and PAN, looked like idiots after being "dissed" by the U.S., and suspicion over U.S. motivations is at an all time high. Congress is unlikely to pass legislation which would have supplied more energy (gas and oil) to the U.S.

The PRI and the PRD are winning local elections. The most popular politican in the country is from the Socialist PRD. Although his party has faced some serious scandals lately, anti-U.S. suspicions have kept him from losing too much support. Thanks to inept foreign policy, expect HIGHER Mexican oil prices, and closer Mexican ties to Brazil, Argentina, the European Union and Japan at the expense of the U.S.