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Navy Stripped Kerry Of Security Clearance!!!!!! Unauthorized Contacts With Enemy Agents!
DC Reporter | DC Reporter / MB26

Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Kerry Lost Security Clearance!

Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerry’s Navy security clearance.

Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.

Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.

Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.

Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the “Peace Talks.” While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.

These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.

Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.

However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

Today, he couldn’t get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!


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KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; benedictarnold; gigolo; kerry; kerrybio; liar; liedtocongress; liedtomedia; lurch; napalminthemorning; northvietnamese; securityclearance; traitor; treason; unfitforcommand; usefulidiot; vietnam; vietnamwar; vkpac; wot
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This will break HOT!
1 posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:01 AM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

This will break NOT!


3 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("We will crush Al Qaeda"....Silky Pony)
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To: MindBender26

Gonna need more than a blog.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:19 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: MindBender26

Well, well, well, it's October and I'm surprised.


5 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:37 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: MindBender26
This will break HOT!

If you think this will be a big deal in the press, you will be sorely disappointed.

6 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:38 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: MindBender26

This should "break HOT!"


7 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:43 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: MindBender26
A link would be nice.
8 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:57 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: MindBender26

Whoa!

B U M P ! ! !


9 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:11 AM PDT by thchronic ("I was talking about was a test of legitimacy, not just in the globe, but elsewhere."--John Kerry)
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To: MindBender26
link, please
10 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:15 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: MindBender26; P-Marlowe; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Ping.

Do we have a link?!


11 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: MindBender26

BUMP


12 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:28 AM PDT by Slicksadick (He's French. His hairdresser also grooms poodles. He's a rich woman's pet. That cover's it)
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To: MindBender26

I publish an online paper in Maine, Christian-news-in-maine.com please keep me informed regarding this will you.


13 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:33 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: MindBender26; Interesting Times; The Shrew; Nick Danger; diotima; Bob J; MinuteGal; abner

ping.........


14 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:37 AM PDT by Seeking the truth ( www.0cents.com - See Vietcong Vets for Kerry stuff here!)
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To: MindBender26

no it won't. Noone in the MSM, including FOX now, wants W to win. Must have taken a lot of $$$.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:51 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: MindBender26

yawwwwwwwwwwn


16 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:59 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech." - Senator Zell Miller)
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To: MindBender26

I have been curious about this for years.
I have always felt that his Paris trips could not pass without a serious response from the USN.


17 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:07 AM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, but some are still hoping!)
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To: unspun

File this away with B-1 Bob's claim he has proof
Kerry either pissed on or burned the flag.


18 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:46 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: FRMAG

Can your guys get anything on this?


19 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:47 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: MindBender26

Interesting, but I'll wait to be excited until I see it in the press.


20 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:51 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: Rebelbase; MindBender26

This will break, if at all, on page C19. Security Clearances are just another "Lifestyle Choice." No MSM gives a crap.


21 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:28 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: MindBender26
"Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!" ROFL!
22 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:35 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: MindBender26

This was discussed a few weeks back. Proof??? What about reinstatement of clearance?


24 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:38 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: MindBender26
“Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

LOL!

25 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:41 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (One Day at A Time || Blue Angel in PJs)
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To: MindBender26

If you think this will be considered news fit to print by the NY Times or broadcast by Dan Rather in any kind of way that would ever hurt Kerry, you have a whole lot of misplaced faith in a hopelessly corrupt media. If they mention it at all, it will in a way calculated to take potshots at Republicans.


26 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:46 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: MindBender26

This needs to hit the MSM.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:57 AM PDT by lahargis
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To: MindBender26

Then how could he serve on the Intelligence Committee?


28 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:00 AM PDT by kkalman
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To: MindBender26
Absent the paperwork documenting the specifics of when/why of any clearance revokation, you are wasting keystrokes.

With less than 3 weeks to go, friend of a friend rumors won't cut it.
29 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:01 AM PDT by sdkhaki
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To: MindBender26

I just read an interesting article on Michael Savage's web page. regarding Kerry's family history, the article is detailed about his family history dealing in the drug trade with China.

http://www.paulreveresociety.com




30 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:05 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: MindBender26
Unfortunately, this won't even be a blip on the screen in the press.

Should be.

But it won't.

Kerry gets a pass AGAIN.

31 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:05 AM PDT by Allegra (GO ASTROS!!! (Don't Break My Heart AGAIN!))
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To: MindBender26

Give what Kerry did, NOT to initiate action to strip him of his security clearance would have been neglect of duty on the part of his official Commanding Officer.


32 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:11 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: dwilli

Nobody has disproven either. Let's not let the MSM dictate what we can and cannot say.


33 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:14 AM PDT by dubyain04jebin08and12
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To: Rebelbase

Scary and shocking but I hate to say it: So what. The old media, where most people still get their info, will not report this. Just like with the charges from the SB vets. It may have some minor impact but unless it becomes the big story all the pundits and talking heads concentrate on, it will not change the race. If it does get any traction it will just be dismissed as another dirty trick personal attack, etc etc.


34 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:17 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: JudyinCanada

Not as surprised as I will be to see this show up anywhere in the MSM.


35 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:00 AM PDT by thecanuck
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To: MindBender26
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36 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:07 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: MindBender26
This will break HOT!

I want to believe, but Dan Rather and Peter Jennings won't mention this unless 90 percent of the country has already heard it from somewhere else.

37 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:16 AM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: ruiner

Spoken like a bonafide anti-American scum.....


38 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:32 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: MindBender26
However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

Johnny sure has some explaing to do

39 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:35 AM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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To: MindBender26
If true, and he becomes (God forbid) President, how could he get clearance?

Yikes.

40 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:01 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The old FR fishbowl.


41 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:02 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: MindBender26

Sounds like a DOD clearance -- not that big of a deal.


42 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:21 AM PDT by ez2muz
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To: MindBender26

If this breaks, at the very least it will allow a lot of people to hear the Kerry Paris Peace Talks story for the firat time. That could be worth 1 to 2 points on Nov 3.

But if it does break hot, it could do real damage to Team Kerry.


43 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:30 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: MindBender26
Why was "a top secret clearance was required for his work at that time" (1967)?

Was it SOP?

44 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:39 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: dubyain04jebin08and12

Statements with the potential power of those two need proof.
Our wishing won't make it effective.


45 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:44 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: MistyCA

ping


46 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:55 AM PDT by proust
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To: MindBender26

In the words of a certain famous Freeper,

This needs to be pursued aggressively.


47 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:59 AM PDT by kidd
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To: MindBender26

I thought to be a CIC you had to be able to get TS clearance?

I had SAR clearance and they had all kinds of requirements you had to meet.

Kerry is going to lose big with this one, good job MB26!


48 posted on 10/13/2004 9:57:05 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mo1
“Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

Some things never change. He still doesn't know what time it is, he thinks, or at least wants us to think, it's September 10, 2001.

49 posted on 10/13/2004 9:57:37 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: MindBender26

crossing my fingers....again.


50 posted on 10/13/2004 9:57:49 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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