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Vanity - Bush Over-Prepped for Tonight's Third Debate?
Wednesday, October 13, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/13/2004 3:22:46 PM PDT by kristinn

I've been listening to ABC News radio's hourly reports during the Sean Hannity show this afternoon. Their reporter, Ann Compton (IIRC) said that President Bush has been cramming (my word) for tonight's third presidential debate in Tempe Arizona.

She reported Bush aides have told her Bush had two debate run throughs with his sparring partner today. And that Bush has been reading note cards containing data on John Kerry's Senate voting record while being driven around in motorcades.

I hate to be a gloom-and-doomer, but this doesn't fill me with confidence. The last thing I'd want before a debate is to have my head filled with loads of new information and statistics and get burnt out with two debate run throughs with the real one hours away.

I figure by this time you go with what's in your gut, your head and your heart.


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My apologies if I end up unduly alarming folks, but I am concerned.
1 posted on 10/13/2004 3:22:46 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Nah. The hourly news just want us to think it's worth missing baseball for.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 3:23:55 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: kristinn

Bush's performance in this first debate was due to fatigue. He had toured Florida earlier in the day while Kerry sat around a Miami hotel.

Don't worry. Bush will do fine.


3 posted on 10/13/2004 3:24:21 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://www.drunkenbuffoonery.com/mboards/)
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To: kristinn

It didn't say it was new info. I'm glad to hear he is preparing myself.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 3:24:42 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

"Bush's performance in this first debate was due to fatigue. He had toured Florida earlier in the day while Kerry sat around a Miami hotel. "

The President may actually win Florida because of his compassionate response that day.


5 posted on 10/13/2004 3:26:05 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: kristinn

I think it's great. It's similiar to final exams in college. I know that for me, I was studying right up to entering the door. I graduated with honors, so it must have helped. ;)


6 posted on 10/13/2004 3:27:11 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: kristinn

Does it matter - the media will tell you how things went -


Just as long as President Bush acts - Presidental - with no stupid grins or bad jokes or the like


7 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:03 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: kristinn
Its called full bottle, you have so much info you can't do anything but look like you know what your talking about.

No deer in the headlights for Bush tonight, he should be ready to kick Kerrys a$$

BigMack

8 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:18 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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To: kristinn

As Jesus and Sean say, "Let not your heart be troubled."


9 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:22 PM PDT by mombonn (kerry . . . he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it. íViva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: kristinn
Relax.

10 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:30 PM PDT by AnnaZ (John Kerry is a social clymer.)
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To: kristinn
Kristinn, if it wasn't an old soldier like you, I'd poke some fun with a counter-title like

Vanity - should we bother watching the debate, or just go right ahead and shoot ourselves?

But since it's you, I won't.

(c;
Dan

11 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:38 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: kristinn

Overprepped ? No Just walk over, call him an a$$hole, and clock him alongside the head ..
Bush Wins !!


12 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:58 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Aggie Mama

It doesn't matter. No matter what the President does or does not do he will be criticized and Kerry will be named the winner. The MSM already has the headlines written-Terry McAuliffe already sent the headlines out.


13 posted on 10/13/2004 3:30:19 PM PDT by Merry
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To: kristinn

Actually I heard on FNC this morning, if I recall the net correctly, that 43 had finished prepping yesterday and was going to relax today :)


14 posted on 10/13/2004 3:30:26 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kristinn

We're all praying like mad and crossing our fingers, too. The secret to these debates, when you're faced with a question...is to answer it, but mention your opponent's failure in that regard. So GW could bring up Kerry's famous Plans for everything, all those new programs costing trillions, but Kerry's saying he'll cut taxes on the middle class. How can you do that and still pay for pie in the sky, when the middle class is the meat and potatoes where tax revenue is concerned? Kerry cares so much about medicare but didn't bother to show up for votes on medicare. That fact GW hit Kerry with last time, and Kerry had no answer...just sat down and tried to look as if he were somewhere else. The big thing for GW is to be likeable tonight, knowledgable, personable, and on target. Don't let Kerry get away with one single lie. Or the moderator, either. GW has to take charge right from the opening gun.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 3:31:20 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Aggie Mama
I have just about decided that regardless of the performances of our president, the MSM will spin it as at best a tie and probably a defeat. After a few days those sheeple who came away with a stronger opinion of Bush will be convinced that they really didn't see what they thought they saw. (Sigh)
16 posted on 10/13/2004 3:31:34 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (If it talks like a liberal, votes like a liberal and spends like a liberal, it's a liberal.)
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To: kristinn

So he was underprepped in debate one, now he's overprepped in debate three.

Get a grip!

He was out campaigning yesterday and Kerry took the day off to prepare.

I haven't heard anybody say that Kerry was overprepped.

It's all mirrors and smokescreens. The MSM will spin it as a loss, so prepare yourself.

I just finished reading Lowry's article about why debate 2 was a bomb in the polls for Bush. We thought he did great, the electorate evidently thought he was too agressive.

The poor man can't get a break! We need to finish the debates, they'll be spun, polls will move up and down, and the only poll that counts is on election day.


17 posted on 10/13/2004 3:31:50 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: kristinn

Consider the source, too. Ann Compton. Snort.


18 posted on 10/13/2004 3:32:22 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kristinn

I think it is a case of the media trying to paint an upprepaired contender. The local station down here KFYI 550 am in phx has been tracking Bush most of the day they have a person at the hotel where he was at the traffic copter as close as they can get it, and lots of reporters checking in with both the Kerry and Bush campaigns. I have not heard them mentioning anything about Bush similar to this. The media is just trying to tip the scales Kerry's way. But if you look at the Media reports after the first two debates. Some saying that Kerry won both, but yet in Rassmussens polls he still trails Bush. If the american public really thought Kerry's performance was that good. I think we would have seen vastly different poll #'s. Same with this evening. If Kerry were to win logic would dictate that we would see a jump in the poles the end of this week and begining of next.


19 posted on 10/13/2004 3:32:29 PM PDT by Americanwolf ("Be vwey vwey quite! I am hunting DU Twolls! ---Elwer Fuwd Fwee wepubwic member and cawtoon icon)
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To: kristinn

The die is cast. The best we have have done their best. President Bush will do a stellar job.


20 posted on 10/13/2004 3:32:49 PM PDT by Marylander (Now, where did I put that memory hole?)
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To: kristinn

> I hate to be a gloom-and-doomer ...

But you will anyway, eh? :-)

> I've been listening to ABC News

Did you expect encouraging news & spin from ABC?

Keep in mind that Bush has a day job, and only has night
school and commuting time for campaign studies.

Kerry's 24x7 hobby is his campaign.


21 posted on 10/13/2004 3:33:37 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: kristinn

the debates don't even matter. there is a long time after tonights debate. with the super fast news cycles today the debates are crap. nobody cares, its what happens after that matters.


22 posted on 10/13/2004 3:34:40 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Renegade

I think he should open with: "Jane Kerry, you ignorant slut!"


24 posted on 10/13/2004 3:34:44 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: AnnaZ

I agree.
If that first debate didn't do us in... it is very unlikely that tonights performance, even IF it were dismal (which it won't be), would hurt us either.

After last week's performance... I think Kerry may be more wary of his style of bs'ing his way out of tough questions. And tonight, W will be feeling positive about this week's rather good news... Afghan elections, Howard winning in Australia, the locals turning on insurgents in fallujah... and other items as well.

I think this might be extra good for W tonight.
He can keep his foot on Kerry's throat... and it's just about 'go time' for the elections.

no worries, for W, I should think.


25 posted on 10/13/2004 3:34:45 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: dawn53

Bob Scheiffer undoubtedly faxed the questions to Kerry yesterday so Nuancyboy could memorize the answers (prepared by his loyal staff), and get them all down to under two minutes. Sound familiar?


26 posted on 10/13/2004 3:35:35 PM PDT by hershey
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To: kristinn

I have read somewhere that President Bush has a phenomenal memory.As long as he is relaxed and not fatigued before the debate,I think that getting all his facts can only help him,as he's not as quick on his feet in finding words and phrases.Having a good command of facts committed to memory should be helpful to him.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 3:36:42 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: kristinn
Why can't Bush just make up numbers like Kerry?

"John Kerry voted for a $2 per gallon gas tax. Is that the kind of big government we need in these times?"

Worry about the details later - at least people will be talking about Kerry's senate record at that point.

28 posted on 10/13/2004 3:37:42 PM PDT by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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To: kristinn

Let's hope somebody has the sense to make him eat steak, eggs and rye toast before he goes in.

Try not to worry.


29 posted on 10/13/2004 3:37:58 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: kristinn

More bullsh*t coming from our enemies!!!!


30 posted on 10/13/2004 3:38:20 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: kristinn
Would you be brimming with confidence if it was reported the Prez did no debate prep whatsoever?

I gave Bush a "C" for his first debate performance, but a straight "A" for his second. I predict tonight he will even top that.

31 posted on 10/13/2004 3:40:20 PM PDT by GLDNGUN (.)
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To: mewzilla

Snort? I dunno, but she does sound pretty ditzy sometimes. Today on one of the breaks for Rush, she said that Bush was gonna say stuff like "he is just gonna raise your texas" I swear it sounded so slurred and weird I had to repeat it, what the heck, raise Texas?


32 posted on 10/13/2004 3:41:18 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: BibChr

You can slap me around. It's just that as I was working on the other thread about the Vote for Change freep, I kept hearing these reports on the breaks during Hannity. They were stated matter of factly, not like she was trying to paint Bush as unprepared.


33 posted on 10/13/2004 3:41:36 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Yet just the other day we were told how Kerry spent TWO WHOLE DAYS doing debate prep while Bush was on the camaign trail, and how he was "really confident." Guess Bush can't win, huh?


34 posted on 10/13/2004 3:42:32 PM PDT by LS
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To: mombonn

Who is Sean ? Sean Hannity ?


35 posted on 10/13/2004 3:46:57 PM PDT by somerville
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To: Marylander

I was one of the few not ready to jump out a window while the first debate was goin on. I'm not ready to jump out the window tonight, either. Just concerned.


36 posted on 10/13/2004 3:47:18 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn; All

I say we ditch the debates and just have a brawl on stage. My money's on Dubya, though I'm sure Kerry will make it tough by trying to pull his hair and bite the ankles. LOL

Relax. What will be, will be.

All we can do is Pray, which is powerful in its own right.

No matter how he does tonight the media will spin it as a loss or a draw. The wonderful news is that we don't have to see the Senator on stage with his better after tonight!

Three weeks to go and I expect everyone to stop letting the MSM dictate your mood and go round up those votes for our Prez.


37 posted on 10/13/2004 3:49:15 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: kristinn
I hope that, during all this prepping, they managed to get his eye blinks per minute down... that was the one thing which bothered me about the last debate.

Go get 'em, Dubya!

38 posted on 10/13/2004 3:50:30 PM PDT by Serb5150 (Look at me! I don't need subtitles!)
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To: kristinn

No matter how well Bush does tonight we know the MSM has already declared Kerry the winner. The most important thing Bush needs to do is go after Kerry on his record. He may not have done it enough in the second debate, but when he did I thought Kerry was knocked off balance. The senator is so super-sensitive about his voting record being scrutinized that the President needs to mention some tidbit about it after each answer. Bush will do fine tonight, but we need to prepare again for the media spinjob for Kerry.


39 posted on 10/13/2004 3:52:55 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: kristinn
Just concerned. I don't think there's a need to be concerned--nor do I think we should be complacent. If you're a praying gal, Kristinn, then pray. I know I'm going to. I firmly believe that pro-Bush/Cheney prayer has helped greatly in the last two debates.
40 posted on 10/13/2004 3:53:48 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Kicking Ass & Taking Hyphenated Names!)
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To: kristinn
If I seem overly optimistic about tonights debate, well too bad.

Bush`s performance in the first debate was unfocused and defensive. Kerry may have won on debate points, but his inability to express a substantive alternative policy agenda, I called it a draw. Public opinion said Kerry won. So be it.

In the second debate, I said Bush needed to be more mentally focused, less defensive, better prepared and he needed to challenge Kerry on his 20 year Senate voting record. Bush came prepared, focused and he defended his record without being defensive. Bush was also combative. Good for him. While Bush didn't challenge Kerry as much as I thought he should have, I think he still won the second debate. Public opinion said it was a draw or a close win for Kerry. So be it.

I think in tonights debate, people will be surprised at how good PresBush will perform. I think Bush needs to challenge Kerry at every opportunity and stay combative, even aggressive. I think the President is ready to defend his economic agenda and call Kerry for what he is. A big government bureaucratic, big taxing liberal.

41 posted on 10/13/2004 4:00:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: kristinn
I guess I'm the only one who thinks that President Bush kicked butt in both debates? In the first debate, Kerry did not answer one single question that was asked of him. He danced around and stated his talking points (which had NOTHING to do with the question asked.) And the second debate... he stumbled, fumbled and made A LOT of promises that he knows that he can't keep ("I will NOT raise taxes on the middle class.") He looked like a buffoon!

MHO
42 posted on 10/13/2004 4:01:10 PM PDT by N8VTXNinWV (I have a plan...But.....I have a plan......But)
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To: kristinn

Relax....Good will triumph over evil.


43 posted on 10/13/2004 4:01:17 PM PDT by Seeking the truth ( www.0cents.com - See Vietcong Vets for Kerry stuff here!)
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To: silent_jonny
I don't Kristinn is a praying gal, with that beard... thanks for the laugh!
44 posted on 10/13/2004 4:03:50 PM PDT by ikka
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To: kristinn

Long, repetitive preparation and drilling are absolutely one of the keys to a great performance. Ask any dancer or singer.

Don't worry about Bush being prepared. It's what he needs to do.


45 posted on 10/13/2004 4:05:41 PM PDT by paulklenk (Blue Fairy, please make Dan Rather a real boy!)
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To: kristinn

"The last thing I'd want before a debate is to have my head filled with loads of new information and statistics and get burnt out with two debate run throughs with the real one hours away."

I figure by this time you go with what's in your gut, your head and your heart.


Some people retaining information by this method...I am definitey this way and can see this in Bush....he will be fine....by the 3rd debate he knows what he needs to do...have faith...but don't expect MSM to give him a win or a tie...they have set this up that way....Bush will still win re election....America will see the goodness, and that character and trust matters!


46 posted on 10/13/2004 4:11:51 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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To: somerville
Have you never heard Hannity say, "let not your heart be troubled"?

I don't know anyone else in the media who routinely quotes John 14:1.

47 posted on 10/13/2004 4:14:19 PM PDT by mombonn (kerry . . . he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it. íViva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: kristinn

"The last thing I'd want before a debate is to have my head filled with loads of new information and statistics and get burnt out with two debate run throughs with the real one hours away."

I figure by this time you go with what's in your gut, your head and your heart.


Some people retaining information by this method...I am definitey this way and can see this in Bush....he will be fine....by the 3rd debate he knows what he needs to do...have faith...but don't expect MSM to give him a win or a tie...they have set this up that way....Bush will still win re election....America will see the goodness, and that character and trust matters!


48 posted on 10/13/2004 4:16:16 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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To: mombonn

I'm embarrassed to say that I go to bed at nine pm,(like our President)so I usually miss Hannity.


49 posted on 10/13/2004 4:17:05 PM PDT by somerville
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To: hershey

Yeah, and we had better watch closely tonight to see if Kerry brings papers and pens to the debate like he did last time!


50 posted on 10/13/2004 4:18:55 PM PDT by LUV W (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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