I noticed this article on the release date but it doesn't seem to resinate for some reason. From what I can gather from this article John Kerry's discharge was altered at some time after his service to be placed in a better light. This should be the October surprise if if could gain some footing to provoke the major media outlets to talk about it. What am I not seeing that allows this article to fall into the waste bin?
To: TheForceOfOne
That the MSM wants Kerry to be elected at all cost and their visceral hatred of Bush will not allow for any questions about Kerry to see any light of day. Those that do make it out, Swifts and the like, are instantly call liars and partisan hacks..I think that about covers it.
2 posted on
10/21/2004 8:34:04 PM PDT by
DSBull
(Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
To: TheForceOfOne
3 posted on
10/21/2004 8:35:40 PM PDT by
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
To: TheForceOfOne
Welcome to Free Republic. If you do a search on this site, you'll find this has been discussed numerous times and addressed by dozens of knowledgeable FReepers.
4 posted on
10/21/2004 8:36:44 PM PDT by
Lady Jag
(Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
To: TheForceOfOne
5 posted on
10/21/2004 8:37:26 PM PDT by
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
To: TheForceOfOne
The MSM just doesn't want to discuss it. I've rewritten to all the cable news about this and no reply. Even on the show Nightline, O'Neill brought this up but nothing further.
To: TheForceOfOne
Amendment XIV, Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
These are links to Kerry's staff making an ambiguous press release about his being present in the Phoenix project meeting where they discussed assassinating U.S. Senators.
Excerpt:
""If there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war," Wade said in a statement late last week."
Source:
Kerry Still Backpedaling on Presence at 1971 Anti-War Meetings
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
March 24, 2004
LINK
Another...
Excerpt:
"Senator Kerry of Massachusetts yesterday retreated from his earlier steadfast denials that he attended a meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which a plan to assassinate U.S. Senators was debated.
The reversal came as new evidence, including reports from FBI informants, emerged that contradicted Mr. Kerry’s previous statements about the gathering, which was held in Kansas City, Mo. in November 1971.
Source:
Publication:The New York Sun; Date:Mar 19, 2004; Section:Front page; Page:1
KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET
Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley
By JOSH GERSTEIN Staff Reporter of the Sun
LINK
8 posted on
10/21/2004 8:39:53 PM PDT by
Lady Jag
(Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
To: TheForceOfOne
I doubt there is anything really to this. I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Kerry is wrong for the Presidency more because of his lack of leadership in the Senate than because of his activity after Vietnam.
There is NO REASON why he would be given less than an Honorable discharge. I don't see that he did anything while in the service that would have earned him the ire of the Navy at the time. Whether we like it or don't, Kerry's statements after the war to the Senate and in demonstrations are protected speech.
We need to stick to politics here, not personal character assassination without real evidence. If we fail to do this, we will be no better than Michael Moore or others who claim Bush did cocaine. (There has been NO evidence that this was the case.)
Kerry has provided ample ammunition with his opposition to nearly every military activity since he joined the Senate. He made public statements to the press after nearly every one of those votes. He has claimed that we can go back to "a day when terrorism is just a nuisance" even though that day never was. This should be plenty.
I have said it before and I will say it again: we can oppose a candidate without having to demonize him. In all likelyhood, Kerry served with some degree of honor in Vietnam. Leave that alone. His weakness shows much better within his votes in the Senate. His lack of attendance. His lack of initiative, sponsoring nearly nothing of importance.
These are things Kerry is weak on. We should stick to that.
11 posted on
10/21/2004 8:42:34 PM PDT by
AdequateMan
(I keep wanting to type "Feral" government instead of "Federal". Is that a freudian slip?)
To: TheForceOfOne
There is one odd coincidence that gives some weight to the possibility that Mr. Kerry was dishonorably discharged. Mr. Kerry has claimed that he lost his medal certificates and that is why he asked that they be reissued. But when a dishonorable discharge is issued, all pay benefits, and allowances, and all medals and honors are revoked as well. And five months after Mr. Kerry joined the U.S. Senate in 1985, on one single day, June 4, all of Mr. Kerry's medals were reissued.
I believe they are laying the foundation for the GOP's "October Surprise". The case is very well presented and explains much about his multiple medal citations and other anomalies about his military service.
Good find.
14 posted on
10/21/2004 8:44:45 PM PDT by
DustyMoment
(Repeal CFR NOW!!)
To: TheForceOfOne
To: TheForceOfOne
OK.... I have a question:
(putting aside everything skerry did, which he should have been investigated and/or tried for treason)
If one is discharged from the military, any other way, other than an Honorable Dis. - can they still run for [any] kind of office? Or is it just CIC? Or... is it just because it's just looks really bad?
To: TheForceOfOne
A Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, was asked whether Mr. Kerry had ever been a victim of an attempt to deny him an honorable discharge. There has been no response to that inquiry. Can anyone think of a reason why the Kerry Kampaign would refuse to respond if the answer is "no"?
To: TheForceOfOne
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56 posted on
10/21/2004 11:02:25 PM PDT by
Stellar Dendrite
(These Commies are ruining our country...........WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE)
To: TheForceOfOne
66 posted on
10/23/2004 8:19:42 PM PDT by
Dante3
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