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I doubt there is anything really to this. I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Kerry is wrong for the Presidency more because of his lack of leadership in the Senate than because of his activity after Vietnam.

There is NO REASON why he would be given less than an Honorable discharge. I don't see that he did anything while in the service that would have earned him the ire of the Navy at the time. Whether we like it or don't, Kerry's statements after the war to the Senate and in demonstrations are protected speech.

We need to stick to politics here, not personal character assassination without real evidence. If we fail to do this, we will be no better than Michael Moore or others who claim Bush did cocaine. (There has been NO evidence that this was the case.)

Kerry has provided ample ammunition with his opposition to nearly every military activity since he joined the Senate. He made public statements to the press after nearly every one of those votes. He has claimed that we can go back to "a day when terrorism is just a nuisance" even though that day never was. This should be plenty.

I have said it before and I will say it again: we can oppose a candidate without having to demonize him. In all likelyhood, Kerry served with some degree of honor in Vietnam. Leave that alone. His weakness shows much better within his votes in the Senate. His lack of attendance. His lack of initiative, sponsoring nearly nothing of importance.
These are things Kerry is weak on. We should stick to that.

There is NO REASON why he would be given less than an Honorable discharge. I don't see that he did anything while in the service that would have earned him the ire of the Navy at the time. Whether we like it or don't, Kerry's statements after the war to the Senate and in demonstrations are protected speech.

You've never been in the service, have you? If you had, you would not make such statements. Kerry was conspiring with and giving aid and comfort to the enemy of the United States when he went to Paris and met with Madame Binh of the VC while he was still a member of the US Naval Reserve AND we were still at war. THAT, in and of itself, is treason and grounds for both a Dishonorable Discharge and a court-martial. We know that he didn't get one, we don't know that he didn't get the other.

All the time he was running around doing that, he was still the property of the US Navy - and the Navy frowned on sailors exercising their Free Speech Rights. It simply isn't done - not if you're as smart as Kerry claims to be.

It makes sense that Kerry's service records have been manipulated and massaged to make him look good, and I bet it was done with the collusion and cooperation of one Jimmah Carter and one Sen. Teddy Chappaquiddick.

"There is NO REASON why he would be given less than an Honorable discharge. I don't see that he did anything while in the service that would have earned him the ire of the Navy at the time."

Kerry still held a commission in the USNR when he went to Paris and met with the NVA/VC which is a violation of one or more articles in the UCMJ.

There is plenty to this. While still in the service of our contry Kerry met with our enemies, and undermined the chances of ending the war and getting our POW'S out. Amendment 14 sec. 3 of the constition says he cannot hold any public office. Why don't we press this issue and get the traitor out of the senate.....

I don't see that he did anything while in the service that would have earned him the ire of the Navy at the time. Whether we like it or don't, Kerry's statements after the war to the Senate and in demonstrations are protected speech.

You don't see. Period. And you are terribly wrong. Period.

LOL-Now I agree that there is plenty in skerry's present and past senate "career" to work against his election.

Also, it perhaps is not the best action to dis his active duty incidents.

However, if the veterans(especially the Swiftees)feel they need to address it-they have absolutely earned the right and I would be the last to criticize them.

With respect to his extraordinary activities with the VVAW I feel very strongly that the American people should know the full story to include any dishonorable discharge and punishment received for violations of the UCMJ.

John Kerry stated on Meet The Press that he would release all his military records-He has not signed the 180. After the way the press has hounded President Bush, I am outraged (OUTRAGED I tell you) that there has not been a steady, daily drumbeat insisting that skerry sign the 180!!!

If Mr. Kerry (who was Ensign Kerry still in the reserves) had a security clearance...and went to Paris, and met with members of a communist government (rules of the 1970s)...and never told the military about those meetings until after his 15 minutes of fame in the senate meeting...then there was just cause for a dishonorable. I admit the scenario has yet to be proven (or disproven), but thats the only way that the navy would have given him a less-than-honorable discharge. And whats interesting is that he had to wait until President steps into office and changes the rules about upgrades on discharge program within DOD. The timeline works perfect with this scenario.

I think most people want to know how he got originally discharged and if he did a upgrade...which would be easily proven if he released his records. And most folks would ask why a young fellow would get a less-than-honorable discharge. This is a issue-discharge and shows a character flaw....a serious flaw.