Posted on 10/27/2004 7:11:06 PM PDT by The G Man
Nothing further. Freaking Russians ...
OK I'm going to sound like one of the end times nuts despite being a non-religious agnostic, but doesn't it say somewhere in the book of revalations that the armies of the world will march towards israel and that the army from the north turns their back on everyone else?
Russia Touts Return Of Iraq Arms Inspectors 27 October 2004 -- Russia has called for the United Nations Security Council to discuss the return of UN weapons inspectors to Iraq following the disappearance of 342 metric tons of high explosives in the country.Russia's Ambassador to the UN Andrei Denisov said the explosives could pose a dangerous threat. He said at least some Iraqi officials would welcome a renewal of UN weapons inspections.
However, U.S. Ambassador to the UN John Danforth, did not back new UN involvement in weapons searches in Iraq.
Danforth said the most immediate need was to find out when the explosives disappeared and what happened to them. He said this was a job that would be best carried out by the CIA-led Iraq Survey Group.
Iraqi officials have said the explosives at the Al-Qaqaa facility went missing after 9 April 2003 due to theft and looting.
(AP/Reuters)
I read this as:
www.nicedoggie.net
Full disclosure: Language worse than South Park. And rather addictive.
"Putin did kinda sorta endorse W a week ago."
Putin has been playing us (and Europe) like a fiddle.
Suppose that this was all PLANNED w/ Russia during the run up and the pussy-footing at the UN....sort of like good cop/bad cop - Saddam (and his cohorts at the UN) are the perps.
Russia does not want to lose big bucks when Saddam goes out - but really would prefer he were gone. So, they "work with him" but not really. They get their stuff, get the dangerous goodies out of what they know will soon be a war zone, and don't tip France and Germany by siding outright with the US. This would explain the reports that Russia convinced Saddam that we wouldn't actually invade. This sounds to me like the ultimate double cross. Sounds like a KGB novel. Oh, wait...KGB....
Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight...but NOTHING would shock me here...
And finally, to answer your question....if this were the case, the MSM will spin it that Bush LIED and kept all this secret. Oh, and they might mention that BUSH LIED.
Saddam and Chirac were positive we would not. Putin knew the jig was up and pulled his weapons outta there.
When we went in, we found illegal weapons from France, Germany and China.
LOL! These guys are grasping at any straw the can to try and dispel this story!
maddezmom - Wed Oct-27-04 10:49 PM
Response to Original message
3. John Shaw...on record blaming it on the Russians...spin this rove
But in a further development, John Shaw, a deputy under-secretary of defence, suggested that “Russian units” had transported the explosives out of the country.
In an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Shaw said: “For nearly nine months my office has been aware of an elaborate scheme set up by Saddam Hussein to finance and disguise his weapons purchases through his international suppliers, principally the Russians and French. That network included. . . employing various Russian units on the eve of hostilities to orchestrate the collection of munitions and assure their transport out of Iraq via Syria.”
The Russian embassy in Washington rejected the claims as “nonsense”, saying there were no Russian military in the country at the time.
Desperate bunch of buggars aren't they?
he he , What if: sKerry is given enough time to jump all over how Russia did this without our knowing/Bush is an idiot blahblahblah --and THEN: Putin/Bush checkmate...and why didn't sKerry know?
'cause he was always AWOL from the security briefings.
It just keeps giving,,,
Thanks for the link. Very well written and informative.
That is really, really, sick.
And totally over the top, for a US Senator that does nothing but talk, and grow the gov.
Sick.
Of course I have hated every Senator for years now, their careers in gov have made them too elite.
(well, maybe not Jeff Sessions, he impresses me during hearings)
My Senators are Levin and Stabacow, as we call her.
"OK I'm going to sound like one of the end times nuts despite being a non-religious agnostic, but doesn't it say somewhere in the book of revalations that the armies of the world will march towards israel and that the army from the north turns their back on everyone else?"
Yes but it also says that a two million man army will march over the River Euphrates. Only country I know that has that many foot soldiers is -- Red (and really Red) China.
One time ping, this is an interesting article about Russians selling WMDs to Iraq and then providing a weapons 'clean up guy' just before Op. Iraq Freedom.
Thought some of you might have an interest. Thanks to Avenger for finding it.
http://www.peterlevine.ws/iraqblog/archives/000141.html
Russian defence minister doubts UN will ever lead peacekeeping in Iraq 10/27/04
Do you post there?
I'm "ms heather"
Bad language definitely, but so funny and right on, imho.
Defense officials said the Russians can provide information on what happened to the Iraqi weapons and explosives that were transported out of the country. Officials believe the Russians also can explain what happened to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs
self_ping
This thread is moving so fast it's almost a fricken chatroom.
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