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John Zogby changes mind. Now says Bush will win (Novak)
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Posted on 10/28/2004 6:28:25 AM PDT by slowhand520

Welcome back on the bandwagon!

Kerry unable to crack Bush base

October 28, 2004

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Advertisement

Pollster John Zogby surprised the political world back in April with a long-range prediction that John Kerry would defeat George W. Bush for president. On Monday this week, Zogby told me, he changed his mind. He now thinks the president is more likely to be re-elected because he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women.

That conclusion would be a surprise for frantically nervous Republicans and cautiously upbeat Democrats entering the campaign's final days. In fact, nobody, including Zogby and all the other polltakers, can be sure who will win this election. Yet, it is clear that President Bush's strategists have succeeded in solidifying his base to a degree that makes it much harder to defeat him next Tuesday.

The long, tortuous presidential contest has come down to who the ''security mom'' thinks can best protect her family against terrorism. Based on current polling data, Bush has won that argument in the face of Kerry's relentless attacks. That explains why the Democrat this week was not talking about health care or other standby issues of his party, but was trying to pierce Bush's security shield by harping on the disappearance of munitions in Iraq.

The difficulty that Kerry now encounters has been shrouded by misleading overnight tracking from last weekend, showing a Democratic surge that is common in Friday-through-Sunday polling. Otherwise, Kerry is in trouble. When Zogby had second thoughts Monday, he found Bush with a national lead of three percentage points and an undecided vote of only 2.7 percent.

The data shows the undecided voters in Bush's base are resolving their misgivings about the president. Zogby's subgroups in the Republican base -- such as investors, military and married couples -- are returning to Bush.

Zogby shows Kerry's advantage among women is only 3 percentage points, the same margin reflected in nightly tracking by Republican pollster Ed Goeas. The Goeas poll shows a 13-percentage-point Bush advantage among men. Goeas' poll has white men favoring Bush over Kerry, 58 percent to 35 percent. Remarkably, the count among white married women is not far behind: 53 percent for Bush, 42 percent for Kerry. The problem for the Democrats is Bush's continued large lead over Kerry concerning which candidate voters prefer to fight terrorism.

If these numbers hold up, the campaign strategy of Bush political adviser Karl Rove will be vindicated. While Kerry's strategy seems to have a thousand fathers, no presidential campaign in my experience has been so completely in the hands of one man as Bush's. Amid much private criticism in GOP ranks, Rove has concentrated on mobilizing the base behind Bush as the anti-terror candidate rather than making conventional overtures to undecided centrists.

With his base secure this week, the Bush strategy did turn to Democratic voters -- not with the usual leftward turn but appealing to hard-liners who have trouble accepting Kerry leading the war against terror. Campaigning in Wisconsin Tuesday, Bush invoked the memory of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy for their ''resolve in times of war and in hours of crisis'' -- drawing an unfavorable comparison with Kerry. Bush is after the security moms, Republican or Democrat.

On the same day, the Kerry campaign threw out previous plans and made the candidate's centerpiece a New York Times report of 380 tons of explosives found missing from Iraq. Although NBC embedded reporters said the explosives were gone when U.S. troops arrived in March 2003, Kerry insisted for two days that this was another example of Bush's inadequacy in waging the war on terror. Whether such a complex issue appeals to security moms is another matter.

A lot can happen in the next few days. In 2000, Zogby had Bush 3percentage points ahead at this stage, but Al Gore seized the lead because of the attack on Social Security privatization and the revelation of Bush's drunken-driving case.

Kerry needs what he has been unable to accomplish so far: a direct hit on Bush's anti-terrorism credentials. It is hard to imagine a Democratic victory without removing those security moms from under Bush's anti-terrorism banner.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; novak; polls; predictions; zogby
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1 posted on 10/28/2004 6:28:25 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

Special sauce bump.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 6:29:20 AM PDT by michaelt
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To: michaelt

He must have gotten his sauce mixed up with Dick Morris Sauce. Whoops.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 6:30:11 AM PDT by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: michaelt

We coulda told Zogby that. :-D


4 posted on 10/28/2004 6:30:20 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: slowhand520



The writing is on the wall...

Bush with 320+ EV's. He is owning everything right now.. New Mexico, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania..

Kerry cannot win.


5 posted on 10/28/2004 6:30:39 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: slowhand520

Well, all things considered, I believe him more than the toe-sucker!


6 posted on 10/28/2004 6:30:51 AM PDT by BP2
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To: slowhand520

Zogby needs to go back to being a judge at the Miss Camel Lot Beauty pagent


7 posted on 10/28/2004 6:31:51 AM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on her porch not a easily frightened, whining, French,"Surrender Poodle"..)
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To: slowhand520

In order to maintain an iota of credibility, Zogby must now admit what he has known for months.


8 posted on 10/28/2004 6:33:00 AM PDT by CaptainK
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9 posted on 10/28/2004 6:33:14 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: joesnuffy

Zogby..... sure wish he would find a new line of endeavor.


10 posted on 10/28/2004 6:34:01 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: slowhand520

I am going to post this message on every poll or poll-related posting from now through 11.2.04.

MSM is using polls to deter Republican turnout. They are garbage. The election is ours! W is going to win in a big way! Ignore them!


11 posted on 10/28/2004 6:34:46 AM PDT by blteague
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To: slowhand520

You can't tell whether these guys are calling it for Bush because their polls say so, or if their polls say so because they personally think Bush will win.


12 posted on 10/28/2004 6:34:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: slowhand520

Is he already getting calls from the Kerry campaign telling him he better hope they don't win?


13 posted on 10/28/2004 6:35:48 AM PDT by cartan
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To: slowhand520
On the same day, the Kerry campaign threw out previous plans and made the candidate's centerpiece a New York Times report of 380 tons of explosives found missing from Iraq. Although NBC embedded reporters said the explosives were gone when U.S. troops arrived in March 2003, Kerry insisted for two days that this was another example of Bush's inadequacy in waging the war on terror. Whether such a complex issue appeals to security moms is another matter.

Howard Fineman was suggesting last night that Kerry pushing this is a losing issue for him and is the wrong message for him in the final days to rely on. You could say it's the Wrong Message in the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time.
14 posted on 10/28/2004 6:36:13 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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He also mentions the fact that the Kerry "surge" of the last couple of days was false and it was because weekend polling always favors Dems.


15 posted on 10/28/2004 6:36:38 AM PDT by slowhand520
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Zogby will be the guest on the Late Show with Jon Stewart tonight. ha ha ha


16 posted on 10/28/2004 6:37:10 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: slowhand520

Attempting to salvage his reputation at the last minute, pathetic.


17 posted on 10/28/2004 6:37:35 AM PDT by Brett66 (Dan Rather, the most busted man in America.)
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To: slowhand520

The only way this race could be close is through voter fraud.


18 posted on 10/28/2004 6:38:28 AM PDT by Hatteras
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AS the election nears Zogby will predict the real winner and try to fix his poll so that he can say how close he was again.


19 posted on 10/28/2004 6:39:05 AM PDT by Bungarian
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To: CaptainK
Yep, sure looks like zogby just threw himself on the sword for credibility's sake.
20 posted on 10/28/2004 6:39:23 AM PDT by thingumbob (Kerry/Edwards are sKerry/Leftwards)
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