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Presidential bid a 'roller coaster' for Libertarian
Houston Chonicle ^ | October 31, 2004 | KRISTEN MACK

Posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: jmc813
"What's this "you folks" crap?"

You folks who don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that the world is entirely different from the one our founders lived in. It's actually a pretty simple concept to grasp.

161 posted on 10/31/2004 7:39:12 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
You folks who don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that the world is entirely different from the one our founders lived in. It's actually a pretty simple concept to grasp. What specifically do you disagree with me on here? Do you not believe in a literal interperetation of the Second Amendment?
162 posted on 10/31/2004 7:47:46 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: Drango

"He's spent about $1 million on his campaign, with $300,000 going toward TV ads in a few states, primarily New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona."

He's lying. I've seen a number of his Bush-bashing ads in Ohio. They have had to cost six figures here alone. It is obvious, given this interview, that his strategy is to attempt to win "legitimacy" by throwing Ohio, and the election, to Kerry by siphoning off Bush votes.

Somebody needs to have a serious question and answer session with this anti-American parasite.


163 posted on 10/31/2004 7:47:58 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: jmc813

Trying to run away from your original presumption?


164 posted on 10/31/2004 7:50:16 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
From the list of Communist goals in Amerca...

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. Accomplished by the Declaration that the Constitution is a living document

165 posted on 10/31/2004 7:52:11 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: nopardons

LOL

Stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night, huh?


166 posted on 10/31/2004 7:52:18 PM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: CWOJackson
Trying to run away from your original presumption?

What was my original presumtion?

167 posted on 10/31/2004 7:53:54 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
LOL! And that applies to:

"Not at all, realizing that we don't live in the era of the founders is far from dangerous. Pretending that the world hasn't changed is dangerous...and very foolish."

how?

168 posted on 10/31/2004 7:54:15 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Badray
Stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night, huh?

LOL

169 posted on 10/31/2004 7:55:21 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: MJY1288
Badnarik will garner the fewest votes ever for a Libertarian Presidential candidate. I doubt he will recieve more than .05% of the vote, or 600,000 votes

Do you mean 60K? Browne got 0.36 percent or 384k in 2000.

170 posted on 10/31/2004 7:56:41 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
I put three stories up on that "other" thread regarding Soros. You might find them interesting reading. He has his tentacles in all sorts of unsavory activities.
171 posted on 10/31/2004 7:58:03 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
"Not at all, realizing that we don't live in the era of the founders is far from dangerous. Pretending that the world hasn't changed is dangerous...and very foolish."

The logic you are employing there can and has been twisted numerous times by enemies of freedom. You and I both agree that the LP is f@#&ed up. Big time. There's a ton of things to trash them on. Why must you use an unconservative argument to do so?

172 posted on 10/31/2004 7:58:13 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
"Why must you use an unconservative argument to do so?"

The fact that the world is an entirely different place then the one the founders lived in is not an argument conservative or otherwise, it's just a statement of simple fact.

173 posted on 10/31/2004 8:00:22 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson; Lord Nelson

Lorde Nelson explained my point much more eloquently than I can in posts 145 and 146. Check them out for an idea of where I am coming from on this.


174 posted on 10/31/2004 8:00:27 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: CWOJackson
The fact that the world is an entirely different place then the one the founders lived in is not an argument conservative or otherwise, it's just a statement of simple fact.

Can we at least both agree that human nature remains the same and that we should hold absolutionist views on issues such as the first and second amendments? Can we meet in the middle there?

175 posted on 10/31/2004 8:02:36 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: WildTurkey

Yes!


176 posted on 10/31/2004 8:02:47 PM PST by MJY1288 (A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK HAS NEVER LED ANY TEAM TO VICTORY)
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To: jmc813

Lord Nelson was rambling about national values, whereas I was responding to a statement about foreign affairs...there is hardly any relationship to either posts.


177 posted on 10/31/2004 8:06:25 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: jmc813

See 177. When dealing with foreign enemies of this nation, which prompted by original responses, trying to pretend that the world hasn't changed since the time of the founders is foolish.


178 posted on 10/31/2004 8:07:57 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Lord Nelson was rambling about national values, whereas I was responding to a statement about foreign affairs...there is hardly any relationship to either posts.

So you are indeed then an absolutionist on Constitutional rights? You claim not to disagree with any of Ron Paul's domestic positions, so I suppose you are.

179 posted on 10/31/2004 8:08:56 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: CWOJackson
See 177. When dealing with foreign enemies of this nation, which prompted by original responses, trying to pretend that the world hasn't changed since the time of the foundsoers is foolish.

As a former MI soldier, I agree. What about when dealing with domestic issues though?

180 posted on 10/31/2004 8:10:08 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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