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Presidential bid a 'roller coaster' for Libertarian
Houston Chonicle ^ | October 31, 2004 | KRISTEN MACK

Posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: hinckley buzzard

Bingo! And he's being supported by many of his fans around here...despite his obvious agenda of being nothing more then a spoiler.


201 posted on 10/31/2004 9:29:54 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: nopardons
Accuracy in Media

Dirty Money from Soros? By Cliff Kincaid | October 28, 2004

In a major development that has national implications, a political party backed by billionaire leftist George Soros has been caught illegally involving itself in a New York Democratic primary, in order to defeat a tough-on-drugs District Attorney. Soros, who favors legalization of dangerous drugs, has been spending millions of dollars to put John Kerry in the White House.

The pro-Soros national media have refused to examine the implications of a ruling by New York State Supreme Court Justice Bernard Malone. He ruled that it was improper for the Soros-backed Working Families Party to get involved in a Democratic primary for DA and he referred the case to local prosecutors and New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer for a possible criminal investigation.

Using money from the Soros-funded Drug Policy Alliance Network, the Working Families Party influenced that DA race with mass mailings on behalf of David Soares, who was described by UPI as the "pro-drug legalization candidate for district attorney of Albany County." Soares is opposed to tough drug laws and wants drug criminals treated more leniently. Thanks to the money provided by Soros, he defeated incumbent District Attorney Paul Clyne in the Democratic primary. At the time of Clyne's defeat, Ethan Nadelmann of the Soros-funded Drug Policy Alliance Network said he was proud that his group had "contributed to this race." He went on to say that "what happened in Albany" has "national resonance." That suggested to some that Soros, if he is successful in putting John Kerry in the White House, would change the nation's anti-drug policy.

Soros, who lives in New York, has also contributed $150,000 to a California ballot measure, proposition 66, to overturn the three-strikes law, which mandates prison terms of 25-years-to-life for defendants convicted of a third felony. Proposition 66 would remove several crimes from the "serious felony" list. Voters passed the law in the wake of the 1993 murder of 12-year old Polly Klaas by a paroled felon. The law has been credited with a 32 percent decline in California's crime rate, versus a 13 percent drop for the rest of the nation.

Soros apparently believes that too many drug users and abusers have been put in prison under the law. But Proposition 66 won't just free drug traffickers and dopers. The website threestrikes.org has published the mug shots and rap sheets of criminals currently serving time under Three Strikes sentencing guidelines that will be released or have their sentences reduced if the measure passes.

One of them, Dean Bandarras-Ross, is a killer, once sentenced to life in prison and then released, who has a history of sexual violence. He is now being prosecuted for giving false or misleading information while registering as a sex offender. If convicted under the three-strikes law, he could get 25-years-to-life. But under Proposition 66, his sentence could be no more than five years, and he would be required to serve only half. From Albany to California and the nation as a whole, George Soros is throwing his money around. And the media have given him a free pass from scrutiny.

202 posted on 10/31/2004 9:32:11 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Chief, I'm sure you read more threads than I do.
Having been on the inside though, I found that
the LP drew it's base from libs and Conservatives.
The Conservatives were forced back to the GOP due
to the Isolationist Blame America game that the LP
has settled on. That platform can only have sway with
the left leaning voter. The Right-minded, don't give
the terrorists another chance, voter will vote Bush.
I believe the posters here are just the more vocal die-
hards. I hope I'm right!
203 posted on 10/31/2004 9:40:05 PM PST by higgmeister
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To: nopardons


204 posted on 10/31/2004 9:40:53 PM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: higgmeister

I'm with you on that. THEY call themselves "true" conservatives. Me, I don't see any difference between them and anyone else working to elect John Kerry.


205 posted on 10/31/2004 9:42:01 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Yes,that's but one of the published stories. :-)


206 posted on 10/31/2004 9:45:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Badray


207 posted on 10/31/2004 9:46:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I know. I posted several stories about Soros' unsavory conduct on the annual Mr. Leroy Dopitarian Tribute thread. They sure do get defensive of their sugar daddy when the truth is revealed.


208 posted on 10/31/2004 9:48:13 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Ahhhhhh...nothing new,they get extremely defensive whenever any facts about the LP is disclosed and/or when factual historical facts are used as refutation for their delusions.
209 posted on 10/31/2004 9:53:01 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Or accuse you of making baseless assumptions...despite the LP's own press release.


210 posted on 10/31/2004 9:54:51 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

That too.


211 posted on 10/31/2004 10:12:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Commie Basher
In other words, being a rich man is the cause of robbery. Normal, non-ideologically-addled people will fail to see the nuance.
212 posted on 10/31/2004 11:51:44 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: nopardons
In other words, being a rich man is the cause of robbery.

What point are you trying to make?

You'd said that Harry Browne claimed that America "deserved" to be attacked. He didn't. You were confusing causality with moral blame. Browne said that America's interventionist actions caused Muslim anger at the US, not that America morally deserved 9/11.

Being rich is not an action. Walking down a dangerous alley or meddling in foreign countries' affairs is.

213 posted on 11/01/2004 1:09:45 AM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
You've not only used quotes that I did NOT write,but have misquoted that vaunted cretin Harry Browne.

A member in good standing of FORTRESS AMERICA,are you? And you use a nic claiming to be a "Commie Basher"? And just HOW,pray tell,did YOU ever "bash" a Commie...with your inability to read/comprehend/write cogent,logical English?

ROTFLMSO

214 posted on 11/01/2004 1:20:03 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
We needed Homeland Security,because Gorelick made it IMPOSSIBLE for interagency transfers of knowledge and lots of other reason;which apparently you don't know about.

This is just silly reasoning. Gorelick's actions could have easily been overruled by the President, the Attorney General or by the Patriot Act. Do you think that Gorelick somehow got the power to put something in place that no one could ever change?
215 posted on 11/01/2004 1:53:26 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: nopardons
You've not only used quotes that I did NOT write,but have misquoted that vaunted cretin Harry Browne.

That's odd. My Post #213 was in response to Cultural Jihad's #212 -- which immeadiately preceded it. I don't know how it came posted to your ealier post. Might be a computer glitch.

That said, I don't see anything so awful about Fortress America. May not be best for some of our "allies," but if it's best for America, well, shouldn't that be the priority concern?

216 posted on 11/01/2004 3:26:02 AM PST by Commie Basher
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To: CWOJackson
I didn't know this site had "a" point.

What is our mission? Free Republic is dedicated to reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and is advocating a complete restoration of our constitutional republic. Listed below are some of the issues we feel strongly about. Basically, we believe that the Founders designed our system of government in the form of a constitutionally limited republic, with maximum freedom intended for the people and minimum government control or interference into our personal lives and business affairs. The united states of America was intended to be a federation of sovereign states, each with its own constitution and state government. Governments at all levels -- federal, state and local -- were to be controlled by the people. Our Constitution explicitly restricts the power of our federal government; and our Bill of Rights guarantees that NO government may infringe upon our God given unalienable rights. This is to ensure that the real power remains close to home, with the states, the local governments and always in the hands of the people. We the People have granted our federal government limited powers to oversee certain things, such as national defense, interstate commerce, the postal service, the coining of money, and the operation of a court system. Most other powers now in the hands of the federal government were illegally usurped from the states and from the people. Somehow, over the years, our guiding principles of law, as set forth in the Constitution, have been eroded to the point that the federal government now has total control -- leaving the states impotent and the people as captive servants to the federal government. This must be reversed if we are to survive as a free Republic and a free people. We at Free Republic are determined to return the Constitution to its rightful place as the Supreme Law of the land as the Founders intended.

217 posted on 11/01/2004 5:47:52 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: CWOJackson
Bingo! And he's being supported by many of his fans around here

Name one.

218 posted on 11/01/2004 5:51:05 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
Haven't we heard this chant "times are different" before? That was the rally call of the 1928-29 market run-up. The party was to go on forever. It was also the excuse for the dot com bubble. "Profits? That's so old school.". We had naive 20 somethings running around telling veteran workers how to run a company in the "New Age" or "New World Order". There is never, IMHO, anything new under the sun.

I guess I'm of the thinking that there is no half measures. You either are a statist or you are not. You support corporate fascism and the welfare state or you don't.
219 posted on 11/01/2004 12:54:22 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: jmc813
Do you have stats and the size of the US government's percentage of economic output? I believe it is around the 40% level. (Not far from the average for Western democracies).

The problem currently being is trying to divide the GDP figure into what is true consumer-based economic growth and what is government service driven. If the government portion is the real driver we are in trouble, as it requires a continuous growth in government. Something the Keynsians failed to explain, heh?
220 posted on 11/01/2004 1:04:52 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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