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Sensational: Convicted Terrorist Alamoudi and CNN Prove Bush Right With Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection!
UMList ^ | 1Nov04 | SHZinser

Posted on 11/01/2004 5:48:04 PM PST by xzins

Convicted Terrorist Abdurahman Alamoudi, Al Qaeda, and Iraq were all at the same Anti-US, Anti-Israel CONFERENCE in Beirut, Lebanon in early 2001! Alamoudi's attendance at this meeting was part of the US government case that convicted Alamoudi in October on terrorism charges.

Testimony by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Special Agent Brent Guntrum specifies Alamoudi's transaction with international terrorism to include the following:

38. According to a Jerusalem Post article, dated June 22, 2001, Alamoudi participated in a Beirut Conference in January 2001 alongside leaders of Hamas , Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and al- Qaeda. A communique issued by the conference called for a boycott on American and Israeli products, stating: "America today is a second Israel."http://www.4law.co.il/Lea275z400.htm

Use of this testimony in the trial CONVICTING Alamoudi combines with the report of Andrea Koppel of CNN in February of 2001 about this very same meeting mentioned by Special Agent Guntrum.

This February 2001 article was put out by CNN only 20 days after President Bush took office and 7 months BEFORE 9/11. Highlighted below is CNN ace reporter, Andrea Koppel, testifying in February 2001 to an ANTI-US CONFERENCE attended by AL-QAEDA AND IRAQ!!

Sensationally, observers clearly sensed a dangerous combining of these terrorist organizations with Iraq itself....State Sponsorship of Terrorism.

There is no doubt of an Iraq/Al Qaeda connection at the conference. Given the nature of Iraq and Al Qaeda, it is reasonable to see Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden behind the scenes!

Anti-U.S., anti-Israeli groups meet in Beirut, U.S. says http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/02/12/terror.meeting/

February 12, 2001

Web posted at: 5:23 p.m. EST (2223 GMT)

From CNN State Department Correspondent Andrea Koppel

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. officials are eyeing the January meeting of several anti-Israeli and anti-American militant groups in Beirut, U.S. sources told CNN.

A number of groups that U.S. officials consider the most dangerous were represented at the Beirut conference, including Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida organization; Hamas; Hezbollah; and the Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said.

All of the groups have claimed responsibility in the past for attacks on American and Israeli targets.

One State Department official called the Beirut meeting a "cause for concern" but cautioned it "doesn't indicate that we (the United States) should expect a rash of coordinated activity."

Another reason for concern, officials say, was the presence of representatives from Iran and Iraq.

Since the Palestinian intifada began last September, Iran in particular has "stepped up its terrorist activity ... and stepped up its planning" for terrorist attacks," explained one U.S. official.

U.S. officials indicate that Iran is not only providing money, weaponry and training to Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon, but they said there has also been a "marked increase" in Iranian support for terrorist activity in Jordan, Syria, the West Bank and Gaza.

One administration source said the terrorist meeting in Beirut and Iran's stepped-up activity confirm the administration's fears about the potential for the Mideast peace process to "come off the rails." Another administration source said Iran is "trying to capitalize" on sentiment within the Arab world that the Israeli-Palestinian peace process was a mistake.

"They sense an opportunity ... to create a bloc of 'rejectionist' states to oppose the U.S., Israel and moderate Arab states," the official said. ....



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200101; abdurahanalamoudi; alamoudi; alqaeda; alqaedairaq; alqaida; beirutconference; dhimmi; hamas; hezbollah; ij; iran; iraq; iraqalqaeda; iraqibinladen; islamicjihad; jan2001; lebanon; terror; wot
Got them.

Bush was right and America needs to know!

1 posted on 11/01/2004 5:48:05 PM PST by xzins
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To: christie

ping


2 posted on 11/01/2004 5:54:33 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; VaBthang4; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Blueflag; Travis McGee; aristeides; ...

ping


3 posted on 11/01/2004 5:55:50 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins

Of course he was.

we went after Saddam with more intelligence pointing to him as a threat than we had on al Qaeda before they attacked us. That's the bottom line. Quoting from David Kay's testimony(at http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2003/david_kay_10022003.html ): "EVEN THE BULKIEST MATERIALS WE ARE SEARCHING FOR, IN THE QUANTITIES WE WOULD EXPECT TO FIND, CAN BE CONCEALED IN SPACES NOT MUCH LARGER THAN A TWO CAR GARAGE"

Colin Powell testified before the war: "Less than a pinch of ricin" causes "shock followed by circulatory failure. Death comes within 72 hours and there is no antidote, there is no cure. It is fatal."

Iraq provided al Qaeda with wmd expertise and technology in the 1990s. The 911 Commission, Richard Clarke and Clinton knew about it. Election amnesia prevents the lib media from reminding people on this.

the president won the argument when he said "Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans [...] It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. [...] Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent."


4 posted on 11/01/2004 6:01:02 PM PST by Sirc_Valence (As socialists formed trade unions against employers the ACLU formed against the U.S.)
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To: xzins

Course he was right, though it's cool to find this kind of validation from this particular source. Is she related to Ted or is the name just a coinkydink?


5 posted on 11/01/2004 6:03:18 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: xzins

Kerry says that we now know there were no connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq.

He must not have read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report or the 9/11 Commission Report, both of which cited the many connections between Iraq and AQ.

An Iraqi national attended at least one pre planning 9/11 meeting with AQ.

Saddam knew 9/11 was coming and where we were going to be hit.

Even the Clinton Justice Department was able to obtain an indictment against OBL which cited the terrorist's ties to Iraq.

A federal judge has granted two 9/11 families a multi-million dollar judgement - against Iraq.

During the 90's, the mainstream press wrote about the world's alarm at the growing relationship between Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Old Media thinks we can't look these things up.

Hundreds of articles and links in this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1224050/posts


6 posted on 11/01/2004 6:05:23 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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To: GoLightly; xzins

Andrea Koppel is Ted's daughter.

She didn't fall far from the tree, which is a willow and bends with the wind.


7 posted on 11/01/2004 6:11:21 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

CNN proving the case made this especially delicious. Knowing she's Ted's daughter makes it even better.


8 posted on 11/01/2004 6:13:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Peach
Kerry says that we now know there were no connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq....He must not have read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report or the 9/11 Commission Report,....

One of the many meetings he didn't attend!

9 posted on 11/01/2004 6:17:18 PM PST by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: xzins

bttt


10 posted on 11/01/2004 6:22:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks for the info.


11 posted on 11/01/2004 6:24:18 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: xzins

Did you see the other stories on the bottom of that CNN page?


12 posted on 11/01/2004 6:28:05 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: xzins

Wow! I'm shocked that the MSM hasn't run with this. I mean, surely they would want the American public to know! /sarcasm


13 posted on 11/01/2004 6:30:48 PM PST by freakboy
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To: xzins

read later..


14 posted on 11/01/2004 7:12:13 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Calpernia; Alabama MOM; Velveeta

Ping


15 posted on 11/01/2004 7:40:04 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: Peach

And even if they couldn't find a connection with 9/11, go back to 1995 to the Oklahoma City bombing. I read some very startling info connecting Iraq with Terry Nichols. So never at any point did I think we weren't justified in going in there, something that wimpy Clinton should have done. Does anyone else think it strange how quickly Timothy McVeigh was convicted and executed? My stepson was in Iraq for six months and I'm very proud of him. He said they received them very cheerfully. Those poor Iraqis being oppressed for so long are now free of Saddam (spelled backward maddas). Now all we have to do is take out some terrorists (insurgents). I call them as I see them.


16 posted on 11/01/2004 8:05:45 PM PST by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

Thank your stepson for all real Americans.


17 posted on 11/01/2004 8:29:52 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (RATmedia will no longer control American politics if patriots have their way.)
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To: xzins
* Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi : (arrested) one of the founders of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veteran Affairs Council; also, [he's] a board member of another Washington, D.C.-based group called the American Muslim Council. - "FBI Arrests Man Linked to American Muslim Groups," Reuters, Mon September 29, 2003 10:02 AM ET
18 posted on 11/01/2004 9:45:30 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: GoLightly; browardchad
* Abdulrahman Alamoudi : was also the first exclusive endorsing agent for Muslim Chaplains for all branches of the US Armed Forces, head of the famous “American Museum Council” of Hillary Clinton Senatorial campaign fame, and a former “good will ambassador” for the U.S. State Department. -freeper Browardchad
19 posted on 11/01/2004 9:46:23 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sirc_Valence; genefromjersey
* Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi : Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi, a Board member of the American Muslim Council, and co-founder of The American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans' Affairs Council, was arrested on as-yet-unspecified criminal charges at Dulles International Airport, after returning from London.
The American Muslim Council has been under investigation for furnishing money to terrorism, and the Veterans' Affairs Council, which helps the US military select Muslim chaplains,has become part of a broadening probe into the activities of Muslim service members at Guantanamo Bay, and elsewhere.
Al-Amoudi was identified in a 1996 Wall Street Journal article as a member of Hamas, and that had collected funds for the defense of one of the accused World Trade Center bombers. Nonetheless,according to author Steven Emerson,Hillary Clinton "worked closely with al-Amoudi".
The close relationship between the Clintons and al-Amoudi was traced back to 1995,when al-Amoudi was appointed a "Good Will Ambassador" to the Middle East. Once overseas, al-Amoudi was quoted as being thankful he could now speak freely, and he engaged in violent anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric. Despite this, the Clinton administration gave him high marks.
The "close relationship" with Hillary Clinton seems to have continued. In June 2000,the American Muslim Council donated $ 50,000. to Mrs. Clinton's senatorial campaign, and al-Amoudi added his own personal contribution of $ 1000.
The American Muslim Council donation was reported to the Federal Election Commisssion as a gift from "The American Museum Commission".When the discrepancy came to light, the Clinton campaign claimed the false entry was a "typographical error"; and eventually, the contribution was returned.
Al-Amoudi came to attention again on 6/26/01, after being arrested during an anti-Sharon protest at the White House.
On 9/11/01,while the United States was reeling from the attacks of violent Muslims,al-Amoudi was one of several influential Muslims who rushed sizeable contributions to the Cynthia Mc Kinney for Congress campaign: earning her lone opposition to American retaliation.
You may have read posts containing part of this information. I urge you to pass the WHOLE story along !
- "Clinton Era "Good Will Ambassador" Arrested," multi-sourced , 9/29/03 , vanity by Freeper Genefromjersey, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991722/posts
20 posted on 11/01/2004 9:49:02 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Peach
* Abdurahman Alamoudi : a founder and longtime leader of the American Muslim Council (AMC) who describes himself as a supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah...Alamoudi's AMC is a leading member of the NCPPF.[National Coalition for the Protection of Political Freedom ]
-- see "Domestic Front in the War on Terror," December 17, 2001
21 posted on 11/01/2004 9:50:23 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: GoLightly

The uranium buy by bin Laden sort of gets your attention, doesn't it?

Prior to this being politicized, there was little doubt about these things and significant evidence.

I'm afraid that public opinion is a result of media leading sheeple where media wants those people to go.


22 posted on 11/01/2004 9:50:56 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Peach
* Abdurahman al-Amoudi & Sami al-Arian : [Sami] Al-Arian is also chairman of the National Coalition for the Protection of Political Freedom (NCPPF), a legal-aid group based in New York for U.S. and foreign terrorist causes (see "Domestic Front in the War on Terror," December 17, 2001). Alamoudi's AMC is a leading member of the NCPPF.
-- "Supporters of Hamas and Hezbollah File Suit Against Bush," by Michael Waller, Insight on the News, July 17, 2002
23 posted on 11/01/2004 9:52:04 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Peach
Speaking of the NCPPF:

1960s : (NCPPF IS FOUNDED TO PROVIDE LEGAL SUPPORT FOR WEATHER UNDERGROUND, FALN & BLA) The National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom, or NCPPF, was founded in the 1960s to provide legal support to New Left terrorists in the Weather Underground, the Puerto Rican FALN and the Black Liberation Army;[ it would be revived decades later to push for Islamist terrorist causes.] -"Undermining war on terror : Muslim groups weakening fed laws under guise of protecting civil liberties," World Net Daily, March 10, 2003

24 posted on 11/01/2004 9:56:32 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

That reminds me of that Clinton pardon for FALN terrorists...


25 posted on 11/01/2004 9:57:21 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: xzins


26 posted on 11/01/2004 9:57:59 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: xzins

c'mon folks: Bush lied, kids died, no plan for peace, no WMD...the media's already spun this up! can anyone say Sandy Berglar??? and very soon the forgotten and spun-up Rather? and while we're at it Team America was quite funny and F'nHYPE 911 quite good!


27 posted on 11/01/2004 9:58:33 PM PST by ehard (COURAGE!)
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To: xzins

reminder to self to read this should I ever sober up enough to do so bump


28 posted on 11/01/2004 9:59:34 PM PST by txhurl (Omitting sarcasm tags gets me in lots of trouble)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

amen to that, I have said for years that OK and 9/11 are all tied into one big ball, I just had a talk with a girl that came to my office that said she wasn't sure how to vote until the tape of Bin Laden this weekend and I brought up all of Clintons failures and I said to her think about it wasn't Tim McVeigh the fastest excuted man in the united states history in the last several decades you have ever seen She left with I am voting for BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 11/01/2004 10:04:24 PM PST by RightWingBev
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To: txflake

Better to read it now and then again later after you've sobered up.

Then you can participate in research on the effects of alcohol on reading comprehension.

:>)


30 posted on 11/01/2004 10:04:27 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Peach
I've suspected lawsuit-avoidance in just about everything Iraq for about a year now....the ONLY thing that makes sense. Wouldn't do much good to liberate a country and then turn them over to 375,000 suits before the ink is dry on the constitution.

First thing, kill all the lawyers.

31 posted on 11/01/2004 10:09:23 PM PST by txhurl (Omitting sarcasm tags gets me in lots of trouble)
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To: xzins

That was one of the things that caught my eye. The other was the time our government seemed to think they had before we were due to be hit, 20-25 years!!


32 posted on 11/01/2004 10:14:48 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: piasa

WOW I wanna say unbelievable, but I can't.


33 posted on 11/01/2004 10:23:08 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: xzins; raivyn

ping.


34 posted on 11/01/2004 10:25:56 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: fortheDeclaration

ping


35 posted on 11/01/2004 10:26:37 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde
From one not a dumb blonde to another :-) yes, there is very credible evidence about OC and Iraq. But we can't expect the media to tell us that, well not all of the media that is! It helped Clinton get reelected to cover that up!
36 posted on 11/01/2004 10:32:45 PM PST by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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To: xzins

America does know and will show it this election day!


37 posted on 11/01/2004 10:40:25 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration

I know that there were a good many people who were able to sift through the obfuscations of the media, but many were not.

I think this is about as clear as it gets.

1. It demonstrates that the government used this information as some part of their case which recently convicted Alamoudi of terrorism.

2. It clearly shows Al Qaeda and Iraq in the same place at the same time with the intention of conferencing.

3. It is prior to 9/11 so that there is no danger of the information being tainted by any kind of 9/11 bias.


38 posted on 11/01/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

My stepson was in Iraq too. Bless them all!

And read Jayna Davis's book The Third Terrorist which is endorsed by James Woolsey, former CIA director. Iraq was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing. Bank on it.


39 posted on 11/02/2004 2:06:39 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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