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Do lead bullets continue to be a hazard after they land?
Virginia Tech ^ | 11/01/04

Posted on 11/02/2004 7:05:35 AM PST by ZGuy

Blacksburg, Va. – There were 20 million metric tons of lead bullets fired in the United States in the 20th century. Is that lead having an environmental impact? Not at or near the U.S. Forest Service firing range near Blacksburg, Va., according to research by Virginia Tech geological scientists. Donald Rimstidt, a professor in the Department of Geosciences, College of Science at Virginia Tech will report the conclusions of a five-year study at the 116th national meeting of the Geological Sciences of America in Denver Nov. 7-10.

There are 9,000 nonmilitary shooting ranges and a lot of military ones in the United States. Some 60,000 metric tons of lead are expended by shooting. (a metric ton or "long ton" is 2,200 lbs.). "So there is lead shot and bullets everywhere," Rimstidt said.

"We were invited by the U.S. Forest Service to look at the shooting range in the National Forest near Blacksburg."

The researchers' survey found 11 metric tons of shot in the shotgun range and 12 metric tons of lead bullets in the rifle range. "These ranges are 10 years old. Most of the lead shot has accumulated on about four or five acres. Some shots have been into the woods, which cover hundreds of acres," Rimstidt said.

Professor James Craig, now retired, and Rimstidt looked first at lead corrosion and whether lead is leaching into the water table or streams. "Lead metal is unstable when it is in contact with air and water. It corrodes and forms hydrocerrussite, the white coating seen on old bullets in museums. That slows corrosion," Rimstidt said.

However some lead escapes, he said. "But we learned that it is absorbed in the top few inches of soil and does not migrate beyond that," Rimstidt said. "Lead is not very mobile. It does not wash away in surface or ground water."

Another finding is that there are large amounts of lead in the trees near the shooting range – but not in a large percentage of the trees, Rimstidt said. "If and when those trees are harvested, they would be contaminated with lead "

Fisheries and Wildlife Professor Pat Scanlon was an investigator on the project until his death in 2003. "He found no evidence that birds eating shot, but this portion of the research was not completed," Rimstidt said. "We are not saying that wildlife would not ingest lead, but it does not appear to be a problem on this range. Other shooting ranges may be different."

Rimstidt will give their recommendations to the Forest Service representatives so they can develop best management practices. "They already knew to put lime on the range to limit corrosion, to take measures to prevent soil erosion, and now, to keep track of the trees if they are cut. They are the experts in management. I will give them the facts and they will make the decisions," Rimstidt said.

Rimstidt's conclusion is that shooting on controlled ranges reduces the overall risk to the public from lead in the environment.

### He will present the paper, "Lead behavior at National Forest Shooting Ranges," by Rimstidt, Craig, and Caleb Scheetz at 11:15 a.m., Nov. 8, in rooms 709/711 of the Colorado Convention Center as part of the Environmental Geosciences session. Scheetz, of Lemont, Pa., recently received his M.S.. in geosciences from Virginia Tech.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: ammo; bang; banglist; bullets; environment; lead; vatech
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1 posted on 11/02/2004 7:05:35 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: farmfriend

Ping


2 posted on 11/02/2004 7:06:18 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

"Do lead bullets continue to be a hazard after they land?"

Depends where they "land"...


3 posted on 11/02/2004 7:06:53 AM PST by Hotdog
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To: ZGuy

Don't we get the lead out of the ground? What's wrong with putting it back?


4 posted on 11/02/2004 7:07:03 AM PST by Defiant (Kerry was a useful idiot during the cold war. In the war on terror, he's just an idiot.)
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To: Defiant

Exactly! Which is why we shouldn't have ranges. It would be better if people just shot in every direction, every where like they do in any innner city socialist planned paradise.


5 posted on 11/02/2004 7:11:58 AM PST by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21

We got the lead out of the ground in the first place!

Semper Fi


6 posted on 11/02/2004 7:14:31 AM PST by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: Defiant
My father in law retired after 41 years with the Forest Service in Arkansas. On the topic of public firing ranges on FS land, he advised that, due to the sloppy habits of the local shooters (leaving trash, shooting through target stands, etc.) the Forest Service wanted to close the local public range. However, they could not because if they did the site would be considered a hazardous waste site and all of the lead, etc. would have to be dug out of the mountain side and hauled off. Of course, he pointed out that lead comes from the ground originally anyway, but no one at the FS had a sense of humor...
7 posted on 11/02/2004 7:15:24 AM PST by colt1911
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To: Hotdog

Indeed. This is something folks should be careful of, however.


8 posted on 11/02/2004 7:15:58 AM PST by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: ZGuy

Lead bullets are seen as a factor in contaiminating ground water. But what's more -- indoor ranges that don't have the proper ventilation systems are also dangerous to those who shoot there, particularly children. Not addressing this problem with new technology and range systems will only cause the number of ranges in this country to dwindle.


9 posted on 11/02/2004 7:16:13 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Hotdog

Dang. You beat me.


10 posted on 11/02/2004 7:16:21 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance, bigotry, envy, and gluttony are a few floor joists in the democratic platform.)
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To: ZGuy

If they land in your chest, yeah.


11 posted on 11/02/2004 7:17:07 AM PST by Richard Kimball (Four more years)
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To: ZGuy
No, it has little or no environmental impact. This won't stop hoplophobes and anti-gunners from trying to use the EPA to shut down ranges, though.
12 posted on 11/02/2004 7:17:49 AM PST by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: ZGuy
I had a few pieces of hot lead land on me once.

However they landed right through my shoulder.

13 posted on 11/02/2004 7:18:32 AM PST by R_Kangel ("Liberals are like a broken pencil.......useless with no point.")
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To: ZGuy
Rimstidt's conclusion is that shooting on controlled ranges reduces the overall risk to the public from lead in the environment.

OMG! This won't do! The Greens will have to bus in some inner-city kids to eat the range dirt so they can test positive for lead. (/sarcasm)

14 posted on 11/02/2004 7:19:01 AM PST by elbucko ( Feral Republican)
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To: Defiant
Don't we get the lead out of the ground? What's wrong with putting it back?

Actually, lead has a non contaminating commercial value. It is used for ballast in the keels of sailboats.

15 posted on 11/02/2004 7:23:58 AM PST by elbucko ( Feral Republican)
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To: elbucko

This isn't a big deal for hunters, but for competition shooters this is a very big deal indeed and could impact the sport for years to come. However, there are solutions that are being worked out --

http://aec.army.mil/usaec/technology/rangexxi00a01.html


16 posted on 11/02/2004 7:29:08 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: ZGuy

This is so typical of Liberal thinking. Lead comes from the earth, it is returned to the earth, thats what we call a closed system. No problem. Same issue with Carbon Dioxide CO2 if we release a large amount by burning fossil fuels then the plant life on earth will grow greener and re-absorb it and correct the imbalance. This Earth is a wonderful system that takes care of most all of these liberal scare tactics.


17 posted on 11/02/2004 7:30:42 AM PST by pwatson
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To: Little Ray

This is another angle the gun grabbers will use to further their cause of ultimate gun confiscation...use the environment excuse to close down shooting ranges...watch for it.


18 posted on 11/02/2004 7:32:21 AM PST by 38special (real sportsmen vote Republican)
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To: ZGuy

"Do lead bullets continue to be a hazard after they land?"

Only to the "perp," if your aim was correct!


19 posted on 11/02/2004 7:34:39 AM PST by Spottys Spurs
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To: 38special

The science on this is real -- that's why the armed services are so concerned about it. But there are solutions, among them, changing ammo and building ranges differently. Those are want to fight it as a "gun grabbing" scheme will lose and cause the eventual closure of ranges. A bette tactic would be to find a solution to the problem.


20 posted on 11/02/2004 7:35:34 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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