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Who Influenced the Electorate More, Mel Gibson or Michael Moore? (vanity)
na ^ | 11-03-04 | Flying Elvis

Posted on 11/03/2004 8:02:28 PM PST by flying Elvis

The MSM has made much over values and morality being a determining factor in this election. They specifically cite the gay marriage bans as well as abortion and stem cell research as reasons the so called Religious Right came out in huge numbers. I think The Passion also played a role in this election, much more than Farenheit 911. The liberal intolerance surrounding The Passion woke up a lot of people to the fascism of the left and forced many Protestants and Catholics to choose sides. Your opinions?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bushvictory; gwb2004; influence; melgibson; michaelmoore; thepassion
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Gibson definitely awoke the sleeping giant that is the Catholic Church in America.

I disagree. Gibson's reluctance to endorse Bush over objections to Iraq was really pissy on his part.

The Passion was a non-factor in the election.

21 posted on 11/03/2004 8:14:11 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: flying Elvis
Trey Parker and Matthew Stone influenced the electorate more than Lumpy Reifenstahl.

-Eric

22 posted on 11/03/2004 8:14:30 PM PST by E Rocc (Flipper is floating upside down in Lake Erie.)
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To: peyton randolph
Parker and Stone with "Team America."
The "Vote or Die m-f-" video in the first South Park episode just as much.

-Eric

23 posted on 11/03/2004 8:15:46 PM PST by E Rocc (Flipper is floating upside down in Lake Erie.)
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To: flying Elvis

I saw an earlier thread that talked about "The Mother Angelica" vote. That is a big part of what won it.


24 posted on 11/03/2004 8:16:19 PM PST by MrFred
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To: flying Elvis

Americans saw Kerry as the baby butcher he is (embryo cloning for stem cells, abortion).

I don't think Mel affected anything. Other than it is nice to have a moral, family man in Hollywood.


25 posted on 11/03/2004 8:19:10 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: flying Elvis

Definitely "The Passion of the Christ" stirred people more than anything else this year.

It swept the nation.


26 posted on 11/03/2004 8:21:46 PM PST by Cedar
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To: flying Elvis

27 posted on 11/03/2004 8:22:41 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: flying Elvis
Frankly, the Massachusetts Supreme Court won this election for Bush.

Sweet, delicious irony.

28 posted on 11/03/2004 8:24:39 PM PST by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: flying Elvis

I vote for Michael Moore. His brand of hate-speech may well have driven millions of voters to Bush. People saw right through his brand of propaganda and his cheap trashy little movie will soon end up in the trash bin, whereas Bush won the largest popular vote in history.


29 posted on 11/03/2004 8:25:32 PM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: flying Elvis
A sincere thanks to you, so very much, Master Michael Moore (you total a$$hole!), for the results of your efforts to dish GWB and the American Way. The results is to be blessed with FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

Please don't loose any weight, you lard a$$; don't shave your ugly face; but please explode like the great dead whale on the Oregon beach, as soon as possible and be gone for ever!

The thought that your trashy 'videos' are known as 'documentary films' is so obserd it defies any logic, whatsoever.

30 posted on 11/03/2004 9:41:55 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: flying Elvis

I honestly don't think it was either one of them so much as it was Bush's own character and decency which influenced voters.


31 posted on 11/03/2004 9:53:45 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("I see a great future ahead for America."-George W. Bush)
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To: flying Elvis
The only way in which Gibson attempted to influence the election was to campaign against prop. 71. It passed by a landslide, and it appears his opposition was a non-factor. He did not do anything w.r.t. the presidential or any other races. In contrast, Michael Moore fired up the democratic base with his "documentary," and that probably kept the presidential race closer than it otherwise would have been.

So, I'm sorry to say, the answer to the question is Michael Moore.

Some people think evangelicals got fired up to vote Bush as a result of The Passion. I doubt it very much. It's been 7 months since the movie was released. Most people weren't even thinkng about the election at that point. Events such as the passion seldom have a political impact that lasts that long.

32 posted on 11/04/2004 6:18:02 AM PST by curiosity
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To: Lord Nelson
Americans saw Kerry as the baby butcher he is (embryo cloning for stem cells, abortion).

Unfotunately, most Americans favor butchering babies for stem sells. If anything, this issue helped Kerry. His support for partial birth abortion, however, probably did hurt him, and his pro-abortion stand probably hurt him with Catholics.

The pro-life movement has done a decent job in moving the country to where many (if not most) Americans see it's wrong to kill a baby in the womb for the sake of convenience. We've got a long way to go in convincing Americans that it is unacceptable to kill babies created outside the womb for the sake of science.

33 posted on 11/04/2004 6:23:35 AM PST by curiosity
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To: flying Elvis
As for moore, with the assumtion that "there's no such thing as bad press", it didn't hurt to have millions of young people pay their own money to spend 3 hours in a darkened theatre and ponder their President.
34 posted on 11/04/2004 6:26:48 AM PST by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: flying Elvis

35 posted on 11/04/2004 6:59:07 AM PST by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: flying Elvis

Neat question. Sort of sounds like one a teacher might ask.


36 posted on 11/04/2004 7:02:07 AM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: curiosity

Yeah, it is rare to find a person who is against cloning people. To me it is just so wrong. These clones will become our slaves and our inventory for "parts". I have no doubt about it. The left has made stem cell research an emotional issue. (Ends justify the means) Hitler made emotional issues as well - and he tortured and mutilated the mentally and physically handicapped.


37 posted on 11/04/2004 7:32:02 AM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: flying Elvis

Mel's Passion caused many lukewarm Catholics and backslid Protestants to reawaken and recommit to their faith -- this gave many the wisdom and strength to resist Moore's lies and appreciate the quiet courage and rock-solid faith of President Bush.


38 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:32 AM PST by karenbarinka (Trust no one who slandered Mel or Passion)
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To: Lord Nelson
Yeah, it is rare to find a person who is against cloning people.

Most Americans are against cloning. What they want is scientists to do research on "leftover" embryos that were created from in vitro fertilization.

39 posted on 11/04/2004 4:08:56 PM PST by curiosity
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To: flying Elvis

This election should have been named "GOOD VERSUS EVIL."
Once again Good triumphs over Evil!


40 posted on 11/04/2004 4:46:10 PM PST by joanofarc
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