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Swiftvets' Cause Might Live On (Kerry Not Able "To Go Back Peacefully Into the Senate")
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/04/04 | Art Moore

Posted on 11/04/2004 5:02:44 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Swift Boat Vets and POWs for Truth achieved its primary goal yesterday with Sen. John Kerry's concession to President Bush, but the deeply divisive issues the group has raised and the activists it has spawned might not fade with the closing of the 2004 election.

"The whole group was oriented to beating Kerry; now that that's been accomplished, there is a formative discussion to say, 'Where do we go from here?'" said Jerome Corsi, co-author of the group's influential New York Times No. 1 best seller "Unfit for Command."

Corsi believes current discussions indicate there will be post-election follow up, whether through some or all of the more than 250 veterans, or through independent investigators and journalists.

"There is a movement to get Kerry to continue to release all of his documents and to press forward on the military discharge issue," Corsi said, referring to discrepancies in Kerry's record suggesting he is hiding a less-than-honorable discharge.

Corsi also notes that the concerns about Kerry's anti-war activism have grown into a movement to restore the honor of veterans who contend they have been besmirched by the conventional, leftist interpretation of the Vietnam War.

"That's going to continue," he said. "So I see Kerry is not going to simply be able to go back peacefully into the Senate and shut the door on the Vietnam chapter of his life."

"It will dog him," Corsi said, "certainly in the next two years and when he attempts to run for re-election."

In a statement issued yesterday, the 527 group's organizer, retired Adm. Roy Hoffman, gave no indication of the group's future, but expressed pleasure at the election result.

"As we have stated since we formed, we believed that John Kerry's actions in Vietnam, coupled with the reprehensible statements he made after he returned, were serious and consequently made him unfit for command," he said.

Hoffman, one of Kerry's commanders during the war, said the group sought to "provide a voice for the courageous and honorable veterans of Vietnam, more than 280 Swift Boat Vets, Coast Guardsmen and POWs who served their country with honor."

He noted the grassroots effort attracted donors from every state, who gave more than $26 million, including more than $7 million in online contributions.

"We were the true embodiment of grassroots citizen action, complied fully with federal election law and had every right to participate in the public discussion of John Kerry's qualifications as commander in chief," Hoffman said.

'Negative, awful ads'

In their assessment of Kerry's campaign, many of the senator's defenders grudgingly point to the swiftboat vets' well-organized effort.

Asked to come up with a key moment in the campaign, analyst Juan Williams told Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace "the turning point" was "distortions and caricatures" of Kerry, epitomized by the swiftboat vets.

Just after the Democratic convention, in which Kerry made his Vietnam service the foundation for his argument he is fit to lead the nation in a time of war, the swiftboat vets "came out with such negative, awful ads," Williams said.

"Initially, I think, the Kerry campaign didn't understand the damage that was being done [and] was slow to respond," he recalled.

"And that damage has been incalculable," Williams said. "It has stayed in the voters' minds. It has defined this campaign in such as way as to damage his opportunity to have a say. When he went into the debates, when I do focus groups and talk to people, they're still hearing the image and the echo of Swift Boat Veterans."

Discussing highlights of the campaign Tuesday, National Public Radio's Tavis Smiley told syndicated columnist Clarence Page, "We'll never forget this phrase, either, Clarence: Swiftboat ads.

"There was a flurry of political advertisements on both sides, but John Kerry was hit awfully hard by the Swift Boat Veterans," he said before playing a clip from one of nine advertisements that aired in battleground states from August through the end of the campaign.

Smiley then played a soundbite from an anti-Bush ad with "Fahrenheit 9/11" producer Michael Moore.

"So you get the swiftboat veterans on one side, you got Michael Moore on the other side. This campaign, Clarence, was unparalleled in the level of propaganda."

Page replied, "That's true, and both of those soundbites you have were turning points where you saw the anti-Bush side really began to take shape and get new energy after Michael Moore's movie came out."

Page said the swiftboat vets turned Kerry's "biggest positive into a big negative, or at least a big controversy. It really began to hurt his forward momentum, and as we saw, Kerry began to struggle going into the debates after his polling numbers fell behind those of George Bush."

Kerry campaign senior strategist Tad Devine has admitted the senator's low point was not answering the swiftboat ads right away.

But Douglas Brinkley, author of "Tour of Duty," the account of Kerry's war record that angered the swiftboat vets and prompted their campaign, has a different take on the group's effectiveness, contending they may even have helped him by energizing his base.

Brinkley wrote Tuesday in an article in the Financial Times that, "Nobody in U.S. politics can endure as many body blows without suffering psychological dents" as Kerry.

Brinkley said Kerry's initial silence amid the swiftboat vets' charges was part of his style and strategy.

"Mr. Kerry welcomes abuse," he said. "He goads his opponents to come out in the open and go for his jugular. They always do. They rise to the bait. When a group of Swift Boat vets attacked Mr. Kerry's record in August he said nothing for two weeks. Why not swing back immediately? That is not his style."

Brinkley maintains Kerry waited until the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Washington Post "exposed his critics as liars and frauds."

A defensive player by nature, Kerry waited," he said. "Ultimately, the Swift Boat attacks only helped Mr. Kerry solidify his base."

Moral values

On MSNBC's "Hardball" yesterday, reporter Andrea Mitchell tied the swiftboat campaign to the reported impact of moral values on the voting Tuesday.

She said "the way the swiftboat veterans and the other groups define John Kerry early in the campaign, is to make him seem as though he were as not in sync with moral values, because he was, you know, a flip-flopper or whatever. By having defined him that way they really put him in a box. And it was very hard for him to get out of that box.

Corsi sees a clash-of-moral-values angle also, noting parallels to Kerry's first run for Congress in 1972 as an anti-war candidate in the traditional, working-class town of Lowell, Mass.

After a big primary victory, financed by New York and Hollywood luminaries such as George Plimpton and Otto Preminger, Kerry encountered the disdain of what President Nixon termed "the silent majority," Corsi said, the people of traditional religious values who rejected the radicalism of Kerry and Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern.

But Corsi believes Kerry's biggest miscalculation was a lesson he should have learned from Nixon -- thinking he could lie to the American people and get away with it.

Kerry's lie, Corsi contends, was to "exaggerate his four short months of service in Vietnam and his minor wounds into a self-advanced glory of mythic proportions" and to falsely characterize Amerian servicemen as war criminals.

The senator, for example, was forced to backpedal on assertions he had made for decades, such as his presence in Cambodia during the war. And his refusal to release all of his military records amid numerous unanswered questions hurt his credibility, Corsi pointed out.

In his 1971 testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry described the U.S. military as the "army of Genghis Kahn, "disgracing" the service of more than 2 million Americans who served with honor, Corsi added.

"All of this the American public might well have accepted and forgiven," he maintained, "if only John Kerry had told the truth and asked for forgiveness."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jeromecorsi; johnkerry; kerry; kerrylies; swiftboatveterans; swiftboatvets; vengeanceatlast
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1 posted on 11/04/2004 5:02:44 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Cool! I'll send them more!


2 posted on 11/04/2004 5:06:19 AM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Brinkley has got to be suffering dementia.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 5:08:49 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Kerry's lie, Corsi contends, was to "exaggerate his four short months of service in Vietnam and his minor wounds into a self-advanced glory of mythic proportions" and to falsely characterize Amerian servicemen as war criminals.

Abso-fricking-lutely!

Willis, we did it. This one was for you! R.I.P. old friend.

4 posted on 11/04/2004 5:09:32 AM PST by N. Theknow ("We will take your money and use it for the common good.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I still find it amazing that this blatant traitor was able to escape prison, let alone find enough support to run for the presidency...


5 posted on 11/04/2004 5:11:14 AM PST by libwacker (Ann Coulter in 2008 !)
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To: N. Theknow

we should shower the real Vietnam vets as true heroes, and condemn Kerry and others of his ilk as the cowards and frauds they truely are.

We honor you Vietnam vets!!! Thank you for your service to our country.


6 posted on 11/04/2004 5:12:51 AM PST by OldCorps
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"But Douglas Brinkley, author of "Tour of Duty," ........ contending they may even have helped him by energizing his base."

So, without the Swifties, Kerry would have lost by even more? Now there's a backhanded compliment to your candidate!


7 posted on 11/04/2004 5:12:55 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I want his dishonorable discharge to come to light in the MSM. That would be a great finale.

Though the biggest punishment for Kerry will be that he now has to perform in the Senate. A phony liar who has coasted for 20 years now has to perform. Every day. The repercussions of not performing now are devastating for this man. But he'd rather be windsurfing... to be continued.


8 posted on 11/04/2004 5:13:05 AM PST by rocky88 (John Kerry: The boy with his nose pressed up against the glass.)
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To: OldFriend
"Ultimately, the Swift Boat attacks only helped Mr. Kerry solidify his base."

He's demented enough to think a gigolo pinko faux "war hero" HAS a base. At this point George Soros would not return a phone call from Kerry.

9 posted on 11/04/2004 5:14:33 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Kerry's lie, Corsi contends, was to "exaggerate his four short months of service in Vietnam and his minor wounds into a self-advanced glory of mythic proportions" and to falsely characterize Amerian servicemen as war criminals."

AMEN!

I will also continue to give if it can possible lead to the full and absolute demise of John 'F-ing' Kerry!!

10 posted on 11/04/2004 5:14:39 AM PST by harpu
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To: Slump Tester
Dear Swift Vets, a battle is won, but the war still goes on.
Take some much earned leave, all hands, and then it's back to business.
John Kerry has much to answer for, and you may find fewer obstacles in your way now - perhaps even assistance from some unlikely sources.
All ahead full!
11 posted on 11/04/2004 5:15:06 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: harpu
Whenever Kerry's anti war antics came up in MA he would drag out his band of brothers to overcome the negative attacks.

He thought he could transfer that acceptance of MA to the rest of the country.

WRONG

As for Rassmann and his ilk.....a pox on them. They should crawl back into obscurity and hang their heads in shame.

12 posted on 11/04/2004 5:17:21 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: rocky88
Funny how -- in both Kerry's case and Clinton's -- it all boils down, in the end, to a dishonorable discharge. :)
13 posted on 11/04/2004 5:17:29 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Brinkley is a liar or very, very naive.


14 posted on 11/04/2004 5:17:47 AM PST by syriacus (I'm commanded to love appeaseniks -- but I don't have to vote for one as Commander-in-chief.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Initially, I think, the Kerry campaign didn't understand the damage that was being done [and] was slow to respond," he recalled.

Bull Sh...

The media and the Democrats tried to ignore the ads, hoping no one would pay attention. They knew in their guts the charges against Kerry were true---and they were afraid to respond because they didn't want to draw attention to the Swift Vets and give them "legitimacy."

When they Swift Vets had their May press conference, the MSM totally boycotted it.

15 posted on 11/04/2004 5:19:57 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: rocky88
The only thing that can save Kerry are low expectations for Massachusetts pols. On the Democrat side we have Ted "floating Olds" Kennedy. On the Republican side we've had such luminaries as Bill Weld, who would rather be playing poker and drinking, Argio Paul Cellucci, who had his driver appointed to a Homeland Security sinecure, etc.

In comparison, Mitt Romney is a giant among midget-men.

16 posted on 11/04/2004 5:20:14 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
BTTT

Go Swifties!!

17 posted on 11/04/2004 5:21:23 AM PST by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: rocky88

DITTO!!!...I sincerely hope that this comes out!


18 posted on 11/04/2004 5:22:27 AM PST by nannaj34
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I believe the visual for this moment in time is that Kerry's B-40 rocket failed to launch and now he is running around the side of the hootch. Skip the loin cloth visual, though.


19 posted on 11/04/2004 5:22:53 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"There is a movement to get Kerry to continue to release all of his documents and to press forward on the military discharge issue," Corsi said, referring to discrepancies in Kerry's record suggesting he is hiding a less-than-honorable discharge.

Hanoi John “reported for duty”. Hanoi John claimed to be a war hero. Now it’s time for him to collect on his arrogance.
I would like to see him report to a courtroom charged with sedition and treason.

20 posted on 11/04/2004 5:26:25 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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