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Swiftvets' Cause Might Live On (Kerry Not Able "To Go Back Peacefully Into the Senate")
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/04/04 | Art Moore

Posted on 11/04/2004 5:02:44 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: snooker
Remember that jerk on TV with Buccannon that called O'Neil a "creepy liar"!

Remember all the pundits saying "in passing" that the SwiftBoat Vet's "have been discredited" when in fact their allegations were proven true!

Remember Sinclair Broadcasting being threatened not to show Stolen Honor?

Remember Kerry's lawyers threatening bookstores with lawsuits if they sold Unfit for Command?

Remember Regeant Publishing being threatened by Kerry's lawyers to stop publishing Unfit for Command?

Remember Barns & Nobles hiding Unfit for Command in the back storeroom and telling customers that the Publisher had not shipped the book while Clinton's book and Anti-Bush books were prominently displayed at the front door?

GOD BLESS the Swifties!

I say we continue to support efforts to go after Kerry and cram the truth about him down the main stream media's and the Liberal's throats until they choke on it!

41 posted on 11/04/2004 6:19:31 AM PST by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: OhMike

Kerry must be unmasked before the American people so that those folks in the 48% will be forced to look at what the unamerican press almost foisted upon us. This is not due to hate for Kerry but concern over never getting this close again to electing such a flawed candidate.


42 posted on 11/04/2004 6:29:00 AM PST by dogcaller
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
I sure do remember the things you state.

Kerry's current Senate seat is good for four years. How are you going to do anything? As a practical matter -- not as a desire -- there isn't much that anyone can do to Kerry now. You may find that Kerry resigns his seat and slinks away in the night. The dem long knives are out being sharpened.

The Swifties should graciously accept the crown they rightly deserve in doing the deed and turn to helping the Vietnam Vets and POWs get their honor back. A welcome home parade would be nice. The public will see this as what the Vets wanted in the first place -- not a grudge match trophy.

So much good has been done for the Vietnam vets -- there is a much better understanding of what role the media played in lying about Vietnam -- don't squander your new found wealth of goodwill on a vendetta.

My sincere advice -- you will lose support if you continue to attack. You will gain magnificently if you do the right thing.

43 posted on 11/04/2004 6:32:53 AM PST by snooker (Bush 2004 --- stay with the strong horse)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Does anyone know what Ad Agency put those monumental ads together. They were stunning in their ability to get your attention and then hold it. These ads will be studied for years. They went straight to the heart.

Is there a link to view all of them?

44 posted on 11/04/2004 6:35:08 AM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
This makes me happy in the knowledge that my donations to the Swiftees helped defeat Kerry even more than my donations to Bush/Cheney.

Life is good.

45 posted on 11/04/2004 6:38:52 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Brinkley maintains Kerry waited until the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Washington Post "exposed his critics as liars and frauds."

Does anyone know how much longer we'll have to wait for this to happen?

I'm afraid I'll grow old and die first. ;)

46 posted on 11/04/2004 6:45:22 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Kerry campaign senior strategist Tad Devine has admitted the senator's low point was not answering the swiftboat ads right away.

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".... When a group of Swift Boat vets attacked Mr. Kerry's record in August he said nothing for two weeks. Why not swing back immediately? That is not his style." Brinkley maintains Kerry waited until the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Washington Post "exposed his critics as liars and frauds."


I don't think Kerry ever "answered the swiftboat ads" right away or otherwise. They did attempt to smear the Swift Vets as "right wing operatives of the Bush campaign", but never provided a refutation of specific allegations.

And, I have yet to see where the NYT, WSJ, WP or anyone else has exposed the Swift Vets as "liars and frauds". In fact, as I remember, it was the Kerry campaign who started backtracking on the first purple heart and Christmas in Cambodia. Had the MSM pursued this story with even a tenth of the vigor in which they dogged the Bush TANG performance, Kerry would have lost by 20 points.
47 posted on 11/04/2004 6:49:44 AM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: OldCorps

Damn right. Throw a parade for them bigger than Gulf WarI.


48 posted on 11/04/2004 6:56:51 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (America Wins!!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I hope that they continue with their efforts. The best way to finish the post-Vietnam War healing process is to enable us to understand exactly how the war was undermined by lies, and who was behind them.

Now that newly-found documents have been released implying an extreme level of cooperation between the antiwar movement in the US and the Viet Cong, this link has to be analyzed.


49 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:33 AM PST by Piranha
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To: libwacker

In my opinion, this is the real reason that Kerry lost. It was all about his personal character (well, it was a lot about the war on terror and voting against gay marriage as well, but he may have pulled it off if he weren't such a coldly ambitious lying opportunist).


50 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:44 AM PST by Piranha
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To: NonLinear

My opinion (for whatever it may be worth):

The Swiftvets should not spend any more time or money on Kerry right now. The time will come. He will go back into his cave for awhile, but he'll never be able to avoid public scrutiny again the way he has in the past.
Just keep an eye on him, Swifites; eventually the right moment will appear when you can push on the discharge issue again. For now, hold on to the good will you have earned. Play the part of good winners. Kerry will eventually give you a good justification to expose him once and for all.

In the meantime, I'd like to see the Swiftvets organization shift its focus to the lies, distortions, and institutionalized bias of the MainScream Media.

Maybe they could change their name to "Veterans for Truth" (or something like that), and broaden their membership. After all, even conservatives who have never been in the service are in a sense veterans of the "Truth Wars" with the MainScream Media. The more people we have monitoring the media, the better.

The media have taken some good blows this year, but they are still on their same old path. We must maintain a steady pressure on them and slap their hands hard whenever they try any of their customary monkey business.

People in the media (and I once was one) are only human, and will naturally have personal biases. But if they make the effort, they can be objective and fair in their reporting. It's not impossible.

The media used to be more fair than they now are, and they can be that way again. But they won't make the effort unless we keep the pressure on them.

The battlefield has changed now, but the war continues.


51 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:21 AM PST by Clique (...because I couldn't find a better name that wasn't already taken, that's why :O()
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To: nannaj34

The first stage is complete. Now to get Kerry out of the Senate.

To do this we need to let MA know that they should change; how the hell do we do that?


52 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:43 AM PST by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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To: OldFriend; Slump Tester

Dittos on contributing more. As for Brinkley, he has a vested interest in Kerry, Brinkley being Kerry's biographer; and, his partisan nature needs more exposure.


53 posted on 11/04/2004 8:01:29 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: izzatzo

Brinkley has become a joke. He has no chance at all to redeem his credibility, if he ever had any.


54 posted on 11/04/2004 9:37:11 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: Mich0127

BUMP!


55 posted on 11/04/2004 9:37:45 AM PST by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: Clique

Great points!


56 posted on 11/04/2004 10:47:35 AM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: chatham

There is an issue everyone seems to have missed. One that could be more important, more far-reaching than these.

John Kerry was CHAIRMAN of the SENATE COMMITTEE ON POW/MIA's.

He ALONE, went to Vietnam, and other countries where POW's were reportedly still being held, long after the war.

He was escorted around by the leaders of these countries, shown empty cells, and was told there were no POW's being held. (with a 'wink')

One can imagine that this gave Kerry an opportunity to do what he has done all his life. SCHMOOZE UP to POWERFUL LEADERS and the WEALTHY. Offer to go along with their plan today, if they would keep in mind concessions for the future. Like his brother. VIETNAM REAL ESTATE SALES locked in to one person.

Kerry gave the POW issue a half-hearted effort. Accepted the word of these foreign leaders, had them scrawl their signatures on a document stating there were NO POW or MIA's left.

He came back to the US, waving these papers in the air, declaring the issue was RESOLVED, and the AMERICAN PUBLIC could go back to worrying about the weather and such.

IT WAS A BIG LIE. Kerry made himself look good for resolving the issue so quickly, and nobody gave a damn about the POW/MIA's except their family members. Kerry had already assured that US citizens hated the Vietnam VETS.

HE COULDN'T LOSE, on this one.

And guess who was also on that committee? John McCain.
John McCain, veteran, injured, medals and decorations.

AND A TRAITOR TO THE VIETNAM VETS AS WELL.

Why? Because, when KERRY held those signatures and the document UP at a PRESS CONFERENCE, John McCain, standing on the same stage, behind Kerry, LOOKED AWAY. DROPPED HIS HEAD IN SHAME, and TURNED AWAY.

BECAUSE he knew it was a lie. But he couldn't prove it. And he couldn't do anything about it. He was on the committee, so he couldn't complain about it's findings.

Kerry has been on several committee's, and each one gave him a chance to garner influence with foreign officials, and each time he later used that to benefit members of his family, at the EXPENSE of US CITIZENS and OUR ARMED FORCES.


57 posted on 11/04/2004 10:56:47 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The swiftvet site says they raised $26 million.
I wish pre-election contributors could buy an official "SwiftVet Support Brigade" hat or T-shirt or patch.


58 posted on 11/04/2004 11:09:30 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I still want him to sign form 180.

Now that the campaign is over, can't he come clean?


59 posted on 11/04/2004 1:08:12 PM PST by wildbill
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To: OldFriend

Not to beat a dead horse, but he's never had credibility with me.


60 posted on 11/04/2004 1:15:12 PM PST by izzatzo
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