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Looted Al QaQaa 'explosives' are in fact urinary antiseptic
Exclusive (So far) to FR ^ | 11/4/2004 | Gerard S Harbison, AKA Right Wing Professor

Posted on 11/04/2004 6:49:55 PM PST by Right Wing Professor

The Los Angeles Times this morning ran an article on the alleged looting of the Al QaQaa explosives. Pivotal to the article, whcih relied on unidentified GI alleged witnesses to the looting, was this:

One soldier said U.S. forces watched the looters' trucks loaded with bags marked "hexamine" — a key ingredient for HMX — being driven away from the facility. Unsure what hexamine was, the troops later did an Internet search and learned of its explosive power.

"We found out this was stuff you don't smoke around," the soldier said.

The trouble is, it's completely bogus. Hexamine isn't an explosive, and has no 'explosive power'. It's a urinary antiseptic. It is used in the synthesis of RDX and HMX - but without a chemical plant and a number of other chemical ingredients, some dangerous and hard to obtain, you can't make RDX or HMX from it. All the explosive properties of RDX and HMX come from the fuming nitric acid which is another ingredient in the manufacture. I doubt you could even get hexamine to burn decently, let alone explode. I wouldn't be at all surprised that Saddam was manufacturing RDX and HMX, and that's why he had sacks of hexamine, but no terrorist is going to be able to do anything with hexamine (except, maybe, treat his gonorrhea).

I'm befuddled how the LA Times could have used a second-hand google search as a source for the most element on the story. I contacted them, and their 'reader representative' gave me an implausible story of how they'd checked their chemical information with the Encyclopedia Britannica, but promised to tell their editors. I'm not holding my breath waiting for a correction.

In case I need to establish my credentials on this, just google 'hexamethylenetetramine harbison' and look at the first hit. Hexamethylenetetramine is the correct chemical name of hexamine. I've done quite a bit of published research with the stuff.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; bushwins; explosives; iraq; mediabias; octobersurprise; pajamapeople; pajamapeoplerule; peepeegate; qaqaagate; rathergate; timingwassuspicious; zogbyism
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1 posted on 11/04/2004 6:49:55 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor

Things that make you go Hmmm!


2 posted on 11/04/2004 6:51:55 PM PST by airborne (AIRBORNE - "DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR!")
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To: Right Wing Professor

Awesome. Hope this is carried further. Good job. :)


3 posted on 11/04/2004 6:52:07 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Right Wing Professor
Basically, they 'stole' urinal cakes, then?
4 posted on 11/04/2004 6:52:23 PM PST by atomicpossum (They pelted us with rocks and garbage.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I missed the urinary antiseptic explanation.


5 posted on 11/04/2004 6:52:50 PM PST by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Need more.


6 posted on 11/04/2004 6:53:27 PM PST by groanup
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To: Right Wing Professor

This story can also be found at
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/04/iraq.weapons.ap/index.html


7 posted on 11/04/2004 6:53:55 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: atomicpossum
"Basically, they 'stole' urinal cakes, then?"

Must be Libs...

8 posted on 11/04/2004 6:54:09 PM PST by Thom Pain
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To: Right Wing Professor
they'd checked their chemical information with the Encyclopedia Britannica

Now THERE's some hard digging reporters, only the most informed reporter would know that Encyclopedia Britannica is where you need to go for detailed information on the chemical makeup of explosives, lol....

9 posted on 11/04/2004 6:54:27 PM PST by Enlightiator
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Wait a minute. I remember something called a 'Hexi-stove' for heating rations when I was in the service. Same stuff?

(Google Google Google...)

Yup. Sure is...

http://trailquest.net/dlgchxtab.html


10 posted on 11/04/2004 6:54:56 PM PST by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: listenhillary

Hexamine is a urinary antiseptic. It's not an explosive. The sacks of chemicals they allegedly looted could cure their, em, burning feeling when they pee, but they sure ain't making any improvised explosive devices from them.


11 posted on 11/04/2004 6:55:29 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Fingers now uncrossed)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Dude, you totally rock!

I love FR, man...!

12 posted on 11/04/2004 6:55:49 PM PST by gaijin
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To: atomicpossum
Basically, they 'stole' urinal cakes, then?

Sign in the restroom:

"Please don't eat the large, white mint."

13 posted on 11/04/2004 6:56:20 PM PST by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: atomicpossum
Basically, they 'stole' urinal cakes, then?

Or, as we call 'em: pisser mints.

14 posted on 11/04/2004 6:56:38 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: Riley
Wait a minute. I remember something called a 'Hexi-stove' for heating rations when I was in the service. Same stuff?

I looked it up, and it is the same stuff. Well I'll be darned. It does burn, slowly.

15 posted on 11/04/2004 6:57:28 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Fingers now uncrossed)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Great Job! (Just curious...are you appropriately clad in pajamas?)


16 posted on 11/04/2004 6:58:02 PM PST by tsmith130 ("Some folks look at me and see a certain swagger, which in Texas is called "walking."" - GWB)
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To: Right Wing Professor
The 14N NMR spectrum of hexamethylenetetramine (HMT) is dominated by the very large electric quadrupole coupling constant of 4.412 MHz at room temperature. Nonetheless, by carefully accounting for this interaction one can subtract its first- and second-order effects on the spectrum, leaving the much smaller anisotropic chemical shift interaction. The chemical shielding anisotropy of HMT is -8.3±3.2 ppm, small but different from zero, with an isotropic chemical shift in good agreement with the value in aqueous solution. This study illustrates how even very tiny chemical shift tensors can be extracted from the NMR spectra of quadrupolar nuclei using appropriate techniques.

Dear God. I can't even pronounce half the words in your extract. Whatever the hell you're talking about, rock on, Doc!

17 posted on 11/04/2004 6:58:05 PM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I have this image in my mind of a bunch of guys sitting around a stack of this stuff with real puzzled looks on their faces. "But the NYT says it's an explosive!?!"


18 posted on 11/04/2004 6:58:58 PM PST by SWake ("Estrada was savaged by liars and abandoned by cowards." Mark Davis, WBAP, 09/09/2003)
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To: Right Wing Professor

That's cool- I can take a bunch of cheap urinal cakes next time I go backpacking. :-)


19 posted on 11/04/2004 6:59:02 PM PST by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: atomicpossum

they seemed rather LARGE for after dinner mints.


20 posted on 11/04/2004 7:01:17 PM PST by weegee (Zogbyism will forever more be the term for a leftist media snowjob designed to sway public opinion.)
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