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COURTING GAYS (Companies compete for "gay" market)
The New York Post ^ | November 5, 2004 | Paul Tharp

Posted on 11/05/2004 1:33:57 PM PST by The Loan Arranger

Big companies are hoping to marry their brands to gays and lesbians this weekend — about 20,000 of them. In the first days after the presidential election — in which gay marriage proved to be a pivotal issue — the nation's biggest exposition on homosexual life is setting attendance records. Booths for exhibitors are also sold out for the first time at the Javits Center, which since 1999 has hosted Gay Life Expo, one of the center's liveliest trade shows. Companies ranging from Citigroup and American Express to Jet Blue and J.P. Morgan Chase are hawking their offerings to the crowds, described by organizers as brand-loyal big spenders who are hard to please.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: California; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: americanexpress; citigroup; dink; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; jetblue; jpgaultier; jpmorganchase; la; lesbian; lufthansa; macys; metlife; miami; nyc; nypd; orbitzcom; timewarner; tupperware; tylenol
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1 posted on 11/05/2004 1:34:00 PM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger

"are hawking their offerings to the crowds, described by organizers as brand-loyal big spenders who are hard to please."

Unless of course you're into gay, whips and chains, freaky weirdo sex in which case they are easy to please.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 1:36:13 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Comment ONE - I'd like a full list of companies that participate so I can avoid them at all costs.

Comment TWO - < barf >

3 posted on 11/05/2004 1:37:23 PM PST by ConservativeBamaFan (We know too much, and are convinced of too little. -T.S. Elliot (for some, it's just the opposite!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

? "Gay Life Expo" ?

don't even want to know


5 posted on 11/05/2004 1:38:52 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: The Loan Arranger

Why not court them? They've got plenty of disposable income, they don't have to spend it on those annoyances like kids or anything like that.


6 posted on 11/05/2004 1:39:12 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: dfwgator

That was sarcasm by the way.


7 posted on 11/05/2004 1:39:39 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

To name a few of the worst bigots against heterosexuals, American Express, Wells Fargo, Anheuser-Busch, Proctor & Gamble.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 1:40:01 PM PST by pypo (I support our troops' Commander-in-Chief)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Lot more Bible-thumpers than bum-bumpers. Time to kick in the after burtners on the corporations that think pandering to perverts is good business.


9 posted on 11/05/2004 1:40:07 PM PST by N. Theknow (DU, Michael Moore, Hollywood, etc. are all dogcrap on the Shoe Of Life)
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To: dfwgator

I heard the K-Y Jelly booth was pretty slick.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 1:41:23 PM PST by N. Theknow (DU, Michael Moore, Hollywood, etc. are all dogcrap on the Shoe Of Life)
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To: The Loan Arranger

I don't know why this would bother anyone. How does it in any way harm a straight person if a gay guy opens a bank account at Citibank?


11 posted on 11/05/2004 1:41:33 PM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: ConservativeBamaFan

I know Land Rover and Jaguar were doing a deal with GLAAD.
I wrote Land Rover and told them I had one, and was dissapointed they were moving away from family values.

They replied ( twice ) that they were dissapointed that I wouldn't want them reaching out to minorities. . .


12 posted on 11/05/2004 1:42:51 PM PST by stompk
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To: ConservativeBamaFan

Comment ONE - I'd like a full list of companies that participate so I can avoid them at all costs.
Comment TWO - < barf >


DITTO!


13 posted on 11/05/2004 1:43:55 PM PST by hushpad
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To: The Loan Arranger
"Exhibitors come from across the spectrum, including Met Life, the New York Police Department, Orbitz.com, Lufthansa Airlines, Jean Paul Gaultier, Macy's, Time Warner, Tupperware and Tylenol."

A homo NYPD officer with Met Life insurance who books Lufthansa flights on Orbitz, dresses in the latest fashions from Gaultier & Macy's, reads Time magazine, holds Tupperware parties, and takes Tylenol when having bum pains.

14 posted on 11/05/2004 1:45:43 PM PST by quark
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To: Modernman

How does it in any way harm a straight person if a gay guy opens a bank account at Citibank?<<<

It doesn't harm any straight person like a slap in the face or something - it's all a matter of the "company one keeps".


15 posted on 11/05/2004 1:48:21 PM PST by hushpad
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To: hushpad
It doesn't harm any straight person like a slap in the face or something - it's all a matter of the "company one keeps".

To go with the Citibank example, I'm sure there are plenty of gay people with accounts at Citibank. I, too, have an account at Citbank. In what way have I been effected, in any way, by the fact that homosexuals have checking accounts at the same financial institution?

How are my checking, savings and investment accounts effected one bit by Citibank's renting a booth at this trade show?

16 posted on 11/05/2004 1:53:03 PM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: Modernman

I choose not to do business with any company which panders to homo's... is that okay?


17 posted on 11/05/2004 1:53:55 PM PST by arly
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To: stompk

Did you write back and ask them if they were reaching out to child molesters or beastialiphiles?

They are a minority, too


18 posted on 11/05/2004 1:56:51 PM PST by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: quark

LOL!


19 posted on 11/05/2004 1:57:05 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: arly
I choose not to do business with any company which panders to homo's... is that okay?

Why are you asking me? You're free to do business with whomever you choose.

That doesn't mean it's a rational choice, however.

20 posted on 11/05/2004 1:58:41 PM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: quark

Tylenol is one of Johnson and Johnson's companies. You boycott J&J and life will be a lot more inconveinient. They make "splenda" BTW. Also I expect a lot of tylenol will have to be used this weekend at an event like that.
I hear the Dims are blaming Gays for the big loss tuesday. Gays are about to find out what the Dims really think of them now that they are a political liability.
I hope I'm wrong. But just look at how they've turned on Kerry already. The problem with liberalism is that all that touchy feely talk is all just talk. Sigh, another special interest group disenfranchised.....


21 posted on 11/05/2004 2:00:31 PM PST by Ricanator
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To: Modernman
I don't know why this would bother anyone. How does it in any way harm a straight person if a gay guy opens a bank account at Citibank?

Following that logic, why should I personally care about murder in Cleveland? After all, it won't personally hurt me. We approve and disapprove of activities that are good or bad for society at large, not just our personal selves.

MM

22 posted on 11/05/2004 2:01:40 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Modernman
How are my checking, savings and investment accounts effected one bit by Citibank's renting a booth at this trade show?


Perhaps you did not understand the complexity of my example. Let me try again.

Your checking, savings and investments accounts are not affected one bit by Citibank's renting a booth or pandering to gays - neither are my currently open, soon to be closed accounts. >>>>It is a matter of the type of company one chooses to keep and identify themselves with.<<<<

I do no approve of the gay lifestyle. By giving money to companies that pander to gay organizations, I am in effect, approving and helping fund a lifestyle I abhor.

I removed my membership in the Episcopal Church for the same reason. One can not condemn a sin and then hang out with those who are committing it.
23 posted on 11/05/2004 2:03:32 PM PST by hushpad
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To: The Loan Arranger; Bikers4Bush; ConservativeBamaFan; socialismisinsidious; pypo; N. Theknow; ...

For any company out there reading this, I actively boycott ALL businesses that promote or pander to the homosexual lobby.

And since I live in the SF Bay Area, I see your advertising targeted at the homosexual "community" and I read the news that discusses pro-homosexual businesses. You might think that you can push this crap in San Francisco and other large urban markets, while putting on a "traditional values" face and hiding your pro-homosexual proclivities from the rest of the country. But we are on to you. You can no longer count on the mainstream media to cover-up your actions. The Internet is the new free press of the 21st century. And in case you didn't notice from this last election, Conservative values are making a strong comeback in America.

I may seem like a small voice, but just know that I represent a large silent MAJORITY that is sick of the homosexual agenda. For each homosexual customer you pick up, you are probably losing three or more regular Americans. As news of your pro-homosexual business practices spread into America's heartland, that loss ratio will increase. You have been warned.


24 posted on 11/05/2004 2:03:38 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Here's a list of exhibitors. Heh.

http://www.gaylifeexpo.com/exhibitors.html


25 posted on 11/05/2004 2:05:16 PM PST by bjmorris
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To: Modernman

you asked a question in your post #11 and I answered it.


26 posted on 11/05/2004 2:05:27 PM PST by arly
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To: The Loan Arranger

Well, now we know who to boycott.


27 posted on 11/05/2004 2:07:26 PM PST by MHT
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To: N. Theknow
I heard the K-Y Jelly booth was pretty slick.

You just had to slip that post in, didn't you? ;)

28 posted on 11/05/2004 2:09:21 PM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

It's called Capitalism. Gays have alot of money.


29 posted on 11/05/2004 2:12:04 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: SpyGuy

For any company out there reading this, I actively boycott ALL businesses that promote or pander to the homosexual lobby.<<<

My family does as well. I have not missed Disneyland at all, nor will I miss anything by any company that panders to gays. I dont use tylenol either. Hope bayer is not on the list, if it is, I'll suffer thru the occasional headache rather than supprt the decling morality of this nation.

BTW I have not missed paying at the box office for movies with terror-loving liberal "stars" in them either!

It is not very hard to live by a good personal value system, no company can provide me with the Peace of God.


30 posted on 11/05/2004 2:14:21 PM PST by hushpad
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To: MHT

Just preposterous. So you won't frequent any business that advertises to Gays? You've just drastically cut your choices. I don't know how being against Gay marriage has now manifested itself into being against Gays. It's their life, they have a right to sleep with whomever they want. Really now, you think by not going to CitiBank you're going to stop people from being Gay?


31 posted on 11/05/2004 2:14:56 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Modernman

It is the way they court gay people. Have you seen the advertisement for wrinkle release by P & G?? They always have to make it perverse.


32 posted on 11/05/2004 2:16:16 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: MississippiMan

I agree with you, the cost of health care due to aids brought to us courtesy of the gay community is just one of many ways their "choices" hurt innocent people.


33 posted on 11/05/2004 2:19:22 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: The Loan Arranger
I have been wondering about that Burger King commercial where the "king" is in the bed with a guy, playing touchy-feely. Mighty weird, that one. And BK has another one with a weird guy in horn-rimmed glasses I wonder about too.

Thank goodness for commercial free cable.
34 posted on 11/05/2004 2:21:41 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down...)
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To: dfwgator

Good idea marking it as sarcasm.

My post got whacked -- it was intended as dry sarcasm.


35 posted on 11/05/2004 2:25:02 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The cool points are out the window and you got me all twisted up in the game)
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To: Hildy
Three or four years ago (pre 9-11), United Airlines wanted to corner the market and be known as the "gay" airlines. Even O'Reilly talked about it. They hired more gay air attendants, overtly advertised get-away packages featuring guys holding hands, etc. I guess there were more gays flying it but I would never ask a fellow passenger about something like that. The service went down and flying with them was not fun. Many the gays got better service because they were the target market, but my husband and I sure didn't. It contributed to the demise of United, even before 9-11.

When ANY company tries to "cut its morals to fit today's fashions", it will suffer. I know a brokerage house in my city that wants to build its gay business. In response, gay marriage is now a political issue for all its brokers because gay marriage is about financial benefits just as much or moreso than about publicly-recognized commitment. In the meantime, they have turned off a more important market, married heterosexuals. Why buy from a broker who doesn't see the world the way you do when there are 100 others around the block who do? Will your broker be as quick to call you about a market change if he really wants business from another "targeted" customer? Sensing that a salesperson is discriminating, perhaps against your best interests, does not inspire future business.

Most products are the same, there are just subtle differences in how they market them. I don't want to do business with companies that don't think I'm special. It's like talking to someone and noticing that they are looking at everyone else in the room instead of you. Why bother if you aren't appreciated?

36 posted on 11/05/2004 2:33:20 PM PST by MHT
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To: Modernman
" That doesn't mean it's a rational choice, however."

Than God we have the self anointed like you to set us, uh, er, straight.

37 posted on 11/05/2004 2:42:56 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Modernman
Because that eeeeviiiil queer might get his queerness all over your CD or savings account!

Seriously, I have no idea.

38 posted on 11/05/2004 2:45:11 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: hushpad

You might want to boycott everything, because I am sure much of what you own, so does some gay guy or lesbian.


39 posted on 11/05/2004 2:46:26 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: hushpad; Modernman

Are you saying Modernman is not 'keeping good company' because he banks somewhere that might also be the banking choice for homosexuals?


40 posted on 11/05/2004 2:48:13 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: Bella_Bru

You might want to boycott everything, because I am sure much of what you own, so does some gay guy or lesbian.


You are way off the mark. What gays "own" is not at issue - those who pander to them are. . . .forget it. I cant talk to a brick wall . . .


41 posted on 11/05/2004 2:51:23 PM PST by hushpad
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To: N. Theknow

42 posted on 11/05/2004 2:53:44 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: ConservativeBamaFan

dude, if you're going to avoid "all companies that support them at all cost," you're going to have to start raising goats for food, milk, shoes, etc. you're reading about marketing, not an out and out endorsement of gays, the gay lifestyle, etc. all big companies do this. it comes down to, how can we expand our market? in the purest, capitalistic sense, it's got nothing to do with lifestyle, it's just another customer constituency.


43 posted on 11/05/2004 2:54:17 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: hushpad
How well has your boycott worked? I really don't care what someone is boycotting, I just hate the smug attitude of, "I'm doing the right thing by boycotting; you aren't". If the self-righteousness didn't stink the place up so bad, I might actually support you in your boycott efforts.

No...no I wouldn't. I like Tylenol, JetBlue, and Amex too much. Oh, and Nordstroms.

44 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:19 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Fine .. then I guess they don't need my business. I'll be only too happy to take my business somewhere else.


45 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:18 PM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: ConservativeBamaFan

Procter and Gamble


46 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:26 PM PST by valleygal
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To: The Loan Arranger

Will Coors Brewing be participating???


47 posted on 11/05/2004 3:01:40 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: The Loan Arranger; ConservativeBamaFan

This one is sick. It's a Procter and Gamble ad for Downey in a gay publication with two guys in bed together.

http://www.pgboycott.com/pgcommercialcloset.pdf


48 posted on 11/05/2004 4:07:55 PM PST by valleygal
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
It is the way they court gay people. Have you seen the advertisement for wrinkle release by P & G??

My understanding was that that ad was run only in gay publications, such as Out Magazine. P&G did not run the ad in any mainstream publication.

49 posted on 11/05/2004 5:15:58 PM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: MississippiMan
Following that logic, why should I personally care about murder in Cleveland?

Apples and oranges. Murder harms the rights of others. Homosexuality, while arguably immoral, harms no one's rights.

50 posted on 11/05/2004 5:18:03 PM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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