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Free Republic, Blog of the Gods ^ | 11/4/2004 | Jack Black

Posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:08 PM PST by Jack Black

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To: WorkingClassFilth
The time has come to lay down rigid adherence to a perfect ideology and move the center back to the balance point.

I don't think I'm rigid. I voted for Bush, who is imperfect, but way better than the alternative. I don't think every aspect of my pet causes can be implemented. But honestly, you have Bush creating huge new entitlement programs. Just for the sake of conversation, now that we have bragging rights and total control of the government, what do you expect to actualy be accomplished? That's my point.

41 posted on 11/05/2004 8:22:17 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: RKBA Democrat
Thank you. I will take your suggestion, and I will think about it.

BTW, your assumption, while certainly reasonable and well-founded, is incorrect. But I can pursue the answer to your deceptively simple question nonetheless. And I will.
42 posted on 11/05/2004 8:26:42 PM PST by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: Jack Black

"...what do you expect to actualy be accomplished?"

I expect a new generation on the judiciary and so does every other conservative. If this isn't achieved, then there WILL be defection in the ranks.

Other wish list items pale in comparison.


43 posted on 11/05/2004 8:30:53 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (What can you expect from a political party full of master-debators?)
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To: Jack Black
Taxes are high, very high for high income earners, and even small cuts are met with demagogury from the left and left-media. Abominations like "earned income tax credit", a direct transfer payment to selected favored working poor is the law of the land. Bush's tax cuts were only passed with a time out provision.

Spending is out of control. Lots of liberal causes are directly funded. We pay to shoot ourselves in the foot. Again demagogury is the order of the day if anything is even proposed to be cut.

The large entitlements are structurally unsound. The Dem plan to fix them is "tax the rich" .. accelerating the transition to a Euro-socialist model. So far the Republican alternatives, again designed to split the difference and not offend, are subject to lies and distortions.

Affirmative action, absurd eco regulations, endangered species laws, activist judges, obviously illegal campaign finance laws, removal of God from the national heritage, the entire New Deal, public universities as Marxist training facilities, the list goes on and on.

Is it any wonder one of their prime objectives is to disarm the American people?

44 posted on 11/05/2004 8:31:48 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Jack Black
As you say, it's not just the DUmmies. The DUmmies are the uninhibited RATS. I know many such rodents who have never heard of DU and would never think of posting there, why, they might be even shocked to see the venom there, the same venom that they themselves spew out in casual conversations. Mirror, mirror...

We've got the Presidency, both Houses of Congress, most governorships including some in blue states. They've got the judiciary, the enrite legal establishment, the media, the entertainment industry, education, Specters and Hatches, heck, even Business Week. Who did you say was winning the culture wars now?

45 posted on 11/05/2004 8:33:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Jack Black

Bump


46 posted on 11/05/2004 8:37:54 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: Jack Black
[ I posted this on a thread originated by Jeff Head on election results and someone suggested I post it as a vanity so I have done so. ]

I know I was there..
Good idea too...
You seem somewhat dispirited...
Welcome to freeRepublic...
About the only place I know of where your ideas can be challenged and/or accepted in a decent enviorment. Not everyone agrees on everything and they should'nt.. I think you may of found an internet home.. I like what you posted and should be well recieved here. Jim Robinsons living room is a healthy place to be.. Take your shoes off and relax.. if your feet are fairly clean.. d;-'

47 posted on 11/05/2004 9:28:31 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: RKBA Democrat
[ What would Jesus do? ]

2000 years ago or Now..?..
2000 years ago he surrounded himself with teenagers not effected by clergy.. He did'nt much like the clergy in an apostate age.. This apostate age is about the same.. What is it that YOU think the current updated Jesus might do.? You don't really think Jesus is stupid or blind or Dialectic materialistic(socialism) do you ?..

48 posted on 11/05/2004 9:50:01 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Fair enough question.

I don't think a modern day Jesus would be spending much time with the Pharisees. I take a look at individuals such as Mary Magdalene as being examples of the people that Jesus reached out to.

I think we're fortunate enough to have people who do actually believe in the Gospel and do live their lives in accordance with Jesus' teachings. The ones I personally tend to admire and identify with are the missionaries.

I do not believe that Jesus was or is stupid or blind. Quite the contrary; when I finally converted (as an adult) I'd have to say that it was the more intellectual aspects of Christ's ministry that finally won me over. Our lord and savior was not and is not a fool. Nor was he or is he a wimp.

Would Christ embrace socialism? Seems to me that Jesus would have a hard time embracing a de facto religion that has as one of it's apparent tenets the replacement of God with the state.

On the other hand, I do think that Jesus would (and is) working awful hard to seek out and turn individuals towards grace.


49 posted on 11/06/2004 5:30:12 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Rumors of the demise of the conservative Democrat have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: RKBA Democrat; timpad

My personal answer to the question I posed to you last night. FYI.


50 posted on 11/06/2004 12:23:01 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Rumors of the demise of the conservative Democrat have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: RKBA Democrat
My personal answer to the question I posed to you last night. FYI.

It's a fine answer, and one that has obvious power in your life. Go with God, and let us both continue to safe harbor.
51 posted on 11/06/2004 12:52:00 PM PST by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: ananda

Could you either post here or freepmail me with info about those dialogues? I could Google but my computer just got back from being fixed, and it'll take me a while to set it up with virus/spyware protection (I'm a complete techno-idiot) so I can't go anywhere except FR for a while.

I am considering starting a pinglist on the topic of moral absolutes and this sounds right up my alley. I already do a pinglist (with another freeper) about the homosexual agenda, but I want one that is wider in scope.

Freegards,
lj


52 posted on 11/07/2004 8:01:27 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Yes, but Jesus exhorted them to change their ways and their hearts. He didn't say "There, there, continue on your downward slide, you're fine as you are".

Remeber the "go and sin no more" stuff?


53 posted on 11/07/2004 8:05:05 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Just read your other post describing your spiritual views and that clarified it for me. I don't think we disagree.


54 posted on 11/07/2004 8:09:11 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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