Electoral map in three dimensions vividly shows results (Incredible!)

http://people.delphiforums.com/nellie501/Bushcountry.jpg ^ | 11-6-04 | Unknown

[Beelzebubba]

This deserves its own thread.

Discussion here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1273621/posts?page=48#48

[dr_who_2]

Interesting, but what exactly is the R coordinate supposed to represent?

[paudio]

What do those bars represent?

[West Coast Conservative]

Dems are popular only in major cities. Republicans are popular everywhere else in the country.

[MHT]

Wow--do you have a 3-D map of 2000 for comparison? (Even a regular comparison between 2000 and 2004 maps?) Thanks.

[JasonC]

The height shows county population. It demonstrates that Dems are an urban phenomenon.

[PrtzlLogic]

Interesting. The bars show the "density" of Kerry votes, for those who are wondering. At least, that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

[pctech]

I think everyone here knows that if it wasn't for the "liberal meccas" here in the USA that the GOP would win elections every time.

It's also interesting that there have been some so-called "prophets" who have said that both coasts and the Mississippi valley would be hit in judgement from God. Kinda makes ya wonder hmm?

[mlocher]

thanks for the post.

why is there a blue line in the center of alabama that extends into eastern missippi? that one has me stumped.

[SandRat]

see replt #4

[nonkultur]

Wow high population cities must be pretty good at voter fraud.

[Jagdgewehr]

That vividly shows why California is under Democrat domination.

[AndyPH]

This confirms my long-held theory that, with a few notable exceptions, city dwellers have a lower intellect.

[dr_who_2]

"Density" per square mile or "density" per total voting age population?

[perfect stranger]

I think it represents voter fraud. LOL

[madvlad]

Yaaa, LA, Chi-town & Boston.

MV

[CindyDawg]

Nice graph but the tip of Texas should be red:')

Is there any reason why we can't switch in the middle of this and make republicans blue and democrats red?

[onyx]

For your *files*?

[donozark]

Check out Illinois. Everyone wanting to toss in the towel. Call it quits in IL. Sorry. Dem strength appears to be Chicago,Joliet,etc. Look at all the red area!

Time to rebuild the Republican Party in IL before 2004.

[PrtzlLogic]

"The height shows county population."

I considered that at first, but ruled it out after looking at NM. The most populous county in NM is Bernalillo, by a HUGE margin, yet it's only slightly raised and actually shows as lower than some of the other counties. (it went just SLIGHTLY Kerry)

So it has to be some combination of winning vote margin and vote density. But, what the heck do I know. I didn't post it. :o

[stockpirate]

I thinkn it would be interesting to see the chart done by voter districts.

[BamaBlue]

The blue in Alabama is the "black belt", an extremely poor section of the state.

[donozark]

esri.com I believe

[ubu]

What is the original source for this map? I have been searching for it since I saw it briefly on TV. The incredible tower of Chicago looks quite.... interesting.

[Nan48]

My stars! Does this mean the Chicago area is the most corrupt in the U.S.?

[tet68]

This is why we have an Electoral College.
Pretty smart those old founding fathers eh?

[6ppc]

That is a band of low income counties with high proportions of black voters. Artur Davis is their congress critter.

[SquirrelKing]

Anyone have a 3-D map of Anna K.?

[Beelzebubba]

This shows several "secession" alternatives, with the portions going to Canada and Mexico indicated.

[BushCountry]

Wow high population cities must be pretty good at voter fraud.

Notice how high Chicago Zooms to the sky! Hit the nail on the head. Funny this is at the DU they are claiming we stole the election by rigging voting machines.

My Bush Country map. If anyone wants a high res image to annoy your liberal friends, freep mail me.

[LurkedLongEnough]

I have exactly the same question. That blue belt is weird for Alabama. Maybe Montgomery & suburbs?

[donozark]

As if the folks in Alberta want to align with liberal America. No way.

[Beelzebubba]

The height of the blocks appears to be county population.

Not density, and this creates some deception. Maricopa County looks voluminous, while urban counties having just as large population look spindly and less important if their county area doesn't include all that rural land. The map could be improved by making the Z axis equal to population density.

[PrtzlLogic]

"Density" per square mile or "density" per total voting age population?

Best I can tell, it's WINNING vote density per county relative to the total country's vote -- because some counties with large populations that went only slightly one way or the other are only slightly raised. So, for example, a county that went to Kerry by a million votes would have a huge bar. Whereas a county with a population of 2 million that only slightly went to Kerry (by, say, 10,000 votes) would only be slightly raised.

[Nan48]

Does living next to large water masses have anything to do with being liberal? Weird.

[piasa]

Good question- in terms of topography there is a large valley that runs across the state where those blue counties are.

[Beelzebubba]

why is there a blue line in the center of alabama that extends into eastern missippi? that one has me stumped.

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I'd guess that mid Alabama and the lower Mississippi valley are low-density areas populated predominantly by blacks.

[King Prout]

wow.

[elizabetty]

Where does Chicago end?

[Beelzebubba]

This confirms my long-held theory that, with a few notable exceptions, city dwellers have a lower intellect.

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I see it as people who like to be interdependent, and not independent, prefer cities, which further makes them more dependent (and I'm not just talking about welfare folks.)

Such people much more highly value the benefits of big government, and thus vote Democrat.

[drhogan]

i agree. dems should be red, we should be blue. even peter jennings made a comment that the colors were controversial. i suspect they didn't give dems red because they were afraid it would be associated with communism and socialism. we should start a movement to switch the colors.

[Mark in the Old South]

I believe that might be the black crescent. "Black" for the color of the very rich soil not a racial slur. It is plantation country and most likely has a large rural African American population like the Mississippi Delta counties which you see is also blue.

[dr_who_2]

Actually, I'd disagree. It suggests to me that it isn't Republican strength that needs to be rebuilt. It's Democrat GOTV/(cough)Fraud. Republicans should look for irregularities in the Chicago results, figure out what it was that the Democrats were doing there, modernize elections all over the state, and make damn sure their open and honest. If that means they'll have to clean up their house a little as well, then they shouldn't delay.

On the other hand, look at California. Bush ignored that state from the get go, but look at the insane turnout there. Either San Fran is solidly loony left, or California isn't in as bad shape as most people think that it is. I take it that the NorthEast wasn't competitive and is more like the "baseline" in a typical no-incumbent election.

What this map doesn't show too well is the difference between the solid red zones and the blue islands in the non-urban areas. That's important. Bill Clinton got elected twice because of those border regions.

[highflight]

Founding fathers' average age 35?

They were wise beyond their years!

[aculeus]

Conclusion: Otis supported Kerry.

[highflight]

I meant to add - If they had forseen the County voting structure they would have based Electoral College Votes by County.

Does anyone know how many Counties W. won?

Thx

[dr_who_2]

What about the great Alaskan plateau up there? There can't be a high population density there.

[phxaz]

both coasts and ms hit! "loving god" are the only two words that come to my mind. you too?

[Beelzebubba]

I considered that at first, but ruled it out after looking at NM. The most populous county in NM is Bernalillo, by a HUGE margin, yet it's only slightly raised and actually shows as lower than some of the other counties. (it went just SLIGHTLY Kerry)

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I still think it is height=population, but I agree that Albuquerque (Bernalillo County) and Reno (Washoe County) appear to be missing. You shouldn't be able to hide 500,000-1,000,000+ people that easily.